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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 10:08:38 GMT
BBC and ITV have said they're considering ploughing on with debates anyway and just empty chairing her It could well end up reminiscent of the episode of Have I Got News for You where Roy Hattersley was replaced with a tub of lard, and I'm absolutely certain that if it happens there'll be suitably edited screenshots appearing on the Internet within an hour or two. That was an amusing episode, ironically the tub of lard made more productive contributions than the majority of politicians from the time that came on the show  They replaced Nicky Morgan with a handbag a few months ago too but the show has become a bit too stale for Ian and Paul to get many laughs from it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:30:25 GMT
What's particularly amusing about the "tub of lard" story is that I've searched in Bing, Duck Duck Go and Google and that reference is the first one that comes up in each search engine.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 20, 2017 20:35:12 GMT
Good day for Jezza today. Get out on the streets, meet the people. Like the tours he did on his rise to Labour leadership. Good tactic, and repeat until the election.
Change the rules, talk about the economy, the health service and care for the elderly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 22:16:03 GMT
Jezza's gone 24 hours without a disaster? That is indeed news. ;-)
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Post by Jan on Apr 21, 2017 10:30:47 GMT
Good day for Jezza today. Get out on the streets, meet the people. Like the tours he did on his rise to Labour leadership. Good tactic, and repeat until the election. He was in London wasn't he. Preaching to the converted. Let's see whether he turns up in any of Labour's Brexit-voting seats in the North, those are the ones that matter, how London votes is a foregone conclusion and so entirely irrelevant. |
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Post by bee on Apr 21, 2017 10:53:37 GMT
Jezza's gone 24 hours without a disaster? That is indeed news. ;-) I think Dawn Butler was in charge of the Disaster brief yesterday. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 21, 2017 16:41:55 GMT
Good day for Jezza today. Get out on the streets, meet the people. Like the tours he did on his rise to Labour leadership. Good tactic, and repeat until the election. He was in London wasn't he. Preaching to the converted. Let's see whether he turns up in any of Labour's Brexit-voting seats in the North, those are the ones that matter, how London votes is a foregone conclusion and so entirely irrelevant. Seems funny a labour leader in trouble in the North??!! A left wing labour leader at that |
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Post by hulmeman on Apr 21, 2017 16:53:45 GMT
He was in London wasn't he. Preaching to the converted. Let's see whether he turns up in any of Labour's Brexit-voting seats in the North, those are the ones that matter, how London votes is a foregone conclusion and so entirely irrelevant. Seems funny a labour leader in trouble in the North??!! A left wing labour leader at that And that is the problem that Labour as a political party face. Up 'ere in t'north Labour is now seen as Londoncentric far removed from it's roots. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 21, 2017 18:34:32 GMT
Seems funny a labour leader in trouble in the North??!! A left wing labour leader at that And that is the problem that Labour as a political party face. Up 'ere in t'north Labour is now seen as Londoncentric far removed from it's roots. Incredible that. Why do you feel Labour is seen as London centric with one of the most left wing leaders it has had? |
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Post by hulmeman on Apr 21, 2017 20:49:36 GMT
I don't think "wings" come into it as much as "heritage". Liverpool gave us the most left wing socialist in Derek Hatton, but his popularity didn't spread far beyond the boundary of Merseyside. People I talk to see the Labour party as more concerned with international matters rather than the goings on in say Leeds or Salford (more widely,the old industrial heartlands). Tony Blair I am reminded was not so popular up here, because he tried to move Labour to what was supposed to be the aspirations of the new Labour voter. Those aspirations were more real in London than (say) St. Helens where industry was closing down left, right and centre. Whilst the south east prospered, the north got left behind and Labour appeared to concentrate it's activities down there. Just my opinion from talking to people, I ain't no Gallop pollster though!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 21:05:19 GMT
If I hear the phrase 'ordinary working families' one more time I'm going to need to buy a new television.....
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Post by greenice on Apr 22, 2017 11:37:55 GMT
I don't think "wings" come into it as much as "heritage". Liverpool gave us the most left wing socialist in Derek Hatton, but his popularity didn't spread far beyond the boundary of Merseyside. People I talk to see the Labour party as more concerned with international matters rather than the goings on in say Leeds or Salford (more widely,the old industrial heartlands). Tony Blair I am reminded was not so popular up here, because he tried to move Labour to what was supposed to be the aspirations of the new Labour voter. Those aspirations were more real in London than (say) St. Helens where industry was closing down left, right and centre. Whilst the south east prospered, the north got left behind and Labour appeared to concentrate it's activities down there. Just my opinion from talking to people, I ain't no Gallop pollster though! I think that's true but the people of St Helens still repeatedly elected Shaun Woodward with a large share of the vote. He was the Tory defector from a safe seat in Oxfordshire. He reportedly had a butler, was married to a Sainsbury heiress and claimed the maximum second home allowance and some other really petty expenses (i.e. Private Eye delivered), despite being one of the richest men in the house of commons. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 22, 2017 17:07:52 GMT
I don't think "wings" come into it as much as "heritage". Liverpool gave us the most left wing socialist in Derek Hatton, but his popularity didn't spread far beyond the boundary of Merseyside. People I talk to see the Labour party as more concerned with international matters rather than the goings on in say Leeds or Salford (more widely,the old industrial heartlands). Tony Blair I am reminded was not so popular up here, because he tried to move Labour to what was supposed to be the aspirations of the new Labour voter. Those aspirations were more real in London than (say) St. Helens where industry was closing down left, right and centre. Whilst the south east prospered, the north got left behind and Labour appeared to concentrate it's activities down there. Just my opinion from talking to people, I ain't no Gallop pollster though! Glad you see it as a Tony Blair thing, at least gives Corbyn a chance.
Another good day for Jezza. May had to agree not to cut aid (didn't want to) and had to say she may have to raise taxes (she didn't want to).
Corbyn again performing well out on the streets, he is very much better at this bit than the commons part of the job.
And Barry Gardiner (shadow minister, no I've never heard of him either), has shown Adam Boulton his arse on Sky News. Another good day for Labour
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They replaced Nicky Morgan with a handbag a few months ago too but the show has become a bit too stale for Ian and Paul to get many laughs from it.
