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Post by crabtree on Aug 3, 2016 22:11:40 GMT
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Post by d'James on Aug 3, 2016 22:21:06 GMT
I wanted to see Romeo and Juliet. I liked the sound of clips I heard of songs. Wish I could hear the soundtrack in full as I doubt they'll put on another production.
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Post by westendcub on Aug 3, 2016 22:24:50 GMT
I haven't seen them apart from 'Viva Forwver' which I enjoyed!!!
I am planning on seeing 'Moby Dick' at Union later this year!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 22:35:27 GMT
I loved Viva and it was so badly treated by alot of the press. It wasn't anywhere near as bad as people made out, it was so much fun!
Agreed with Stephen Ward, certianly the worst musical I have ever seen, without doubt.
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Post by fiyero on Aug 3, 2016 22:38:09 GMT
I've seen Love Never Dies, Stephen Ward and Viva Forever (and I Can't Sing and Lord of the Rings from the B list). I liked all of them and saw I Can't Sing twice (the maddest thing I've ever seen) and Lord of the Rings 3 times. Not really sure how they've defined worst!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 22:49:32 GMT
Worst is definitely subjective, otherwise Cats would be on the list....
I saw this on another website. I saw 10 from the main list and 8 from the runners up. The 90's really were my years of theatre going! There's also some shows that should be mentioned - La Cava, Always and Notre Dame De Paris.
I still listen to some songs from most of these shows!
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Post by johartuk on Aug 3, 2016 23:07:59 GMT
I'm guessing that for the article, worst = biggest flops, rather than musicals considered bad which have recouped their investment/had a reasonable or long run. Looking at the ones that made the 'A' List, I noticed some that ran for weeks or even days before closing!
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Post by d'James on Aug 3, 2016 23:13:07 GMT
I'm guessing that for the article, worst = biggest flops, rather than musicals considered bad which have recouped their investment/had a reasonable or long run. Looking at the ones that made the 'A' List, I noticed some that ran for weeks or even days before closing! Didn't Viva Forever run longer than I Can't Sing? They both had big people behind them. Maybe it's a combination of length of run and reviews.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 23:32:18 GMT
I loved Viva and it was so badly treated by alot of the press. It wasn't anywhere near as bad as people made out, it was so much fun! Agreed with Stephen Ward, certianly the worst musical I have ever seen, without doubt. It really wasn't fun
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 4:55:52 GMT
I'm guessing that for the article, worst = biggest flops, rather than musicals considered bad which have recouped their investment/had a reasonable or long run Not even biggest flops. Just flops. Some were absolutely dreadful, such as Behind The Iron Mask. Others were just unlucky. I really liked Beautiful and Damned, which was a great little show apart from the block of wood in the lead. Romeo and Juliet failed in London but the Antwerp production of the same show was an amazing success. And Love Never Dies has done reasonably well and is noted mainly for the array of incredibly creepy Phantom fans who seemed to think they owned the characters.
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Post by viserys on Aug 4, 2016 5:19:53 GMT
I've always been a big fan of the French spectacles and I had seen Romeo et Juliette when it first opened in Paris (I had missed the first Paris run of Notre Dame de Paris at the stage, but caught the tour later).
I think it was more a question of a wholly different way of staging musicals that didn't sit well with the English audiences. The French shows have always been more like staged rock concerts with a paperthin storyline holding things together, the leads rock/pop singers (these days usually recruited from casting shows on TV) and a chorus of amazing dancers. It didn't help that the French had created a show based on sacred Shakespeare.
I am totally fine with people saying that the style of the French spectacles is not their cup of tea and they'd thus avoid them, but I'd at least like them to acknowledge that it's a whole different animal from the classic Anglo-American musical. The older French shows like Romeo & Juliet and Notre Dame de Paris also do very well in Italy, with Notre Dame de Paris having played the Arena di Verona a few times. The newer shows have become a bit crazier, but I still enjoy them simply for what they are - a fun evening out with great music and visuals.
As for some of the older shows on that list - yes, they might have been weird, but at least they were original musicals with an original story and original music. Not a movie slapped on stage, nor a recycling of someone's greatest hits. I did enjoy The Far Pavilions, as it was based on one of my all-time favorite books. Maybe you needed to know the book to "get" the story, maybe the book was too big to adapt into a coherent musical, I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 5:36:18 GMT
I'd have Paradice Found (Menier CF) on that list.
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