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Post by sph on Mar 8, 2024 23:20:33 GMT
It frustrates me that cinemas figured this out ages ago. You need to drop capacity and make seats more spacious in all directions. You have to make the experience more pleasurable and comfortable to pull people away from home entertainment. The economics of running theatres and cinemas are totally different though. The Noel Coward is a difficult one, every time I've been there it has been to see a sold-out kind of show. The issue is that the front of house areas outside of the auditorium (bars/toilets/foyer/corridors) are so tiny, that at the interval you literally can't get around the building. I've never seen those numbers of people squeezed into such tiny bars.
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Post by Jon on Mar 8, 2024 23:27:59 GMT
It frustrates me that cinemas figured this out ages ago. You need to drop capacity and make seats more spacious in all directions. You have to make the experience more pleasurable and comfortable to pull people away from home entertainment. I think some theatres can do that like the Dominion but I'm not sure if you can cut smaller venues capacity down without either reducing profitability or causing pricing to shoot up. Also, I'm not sure if you could use the type of seating cinemas use in theatres, the pitch is very different.
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Post by Jan on Mar 9, 2024 8:51:06 GMT
What is unforgivable is when they put uncomfortable seats in modern theatres with configurable seating. The Young Vic prime offenders with those stupid seats where both the seat and back rest are split into two pieces.
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Post by lilgirlbigcity on Mar 9, 2024 11:41:19 GMT
The Old Vic gallery seats- don't mind the view but if you're short you can't reach the floor and just have to have your feet dangling all night! Last time I brought my bag to use as a footstall.
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Post by tmesis on Mar 9, 2024 13:19:33 GMT
Surprised no one has mentioned Charring Cross Theatre. The words ‘flea’ and ‘pit’ come to mind.
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Post by marob on Mar 10, 2024 1:23:38 GMT
As far as I’m concerned most of the West End isn’t really fit for purpose. Far too many restricted views, even in decent seats there’ll often be someone’s head in the way. Not good especially now they’re charging 3 figures for seats at some shows.
For a new build I thought the seating in Soho Place (I refuse to use the ‘@‘ 😂) was awful. Crammed in like sardines and my knees were against the stage.
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Post by bigredapple on Mar 10, 2024 2:03:30 GMT
I suppose most theatres have things that need changing. Are any WE theatres perfect or near perfect in anyone’s eyes?
I quite like the NT Olivier? But that doesn’t count as WE does it? The Gillian Lynne auditorium is very comfy, love the high backed gallery seats, but the FOH areas are a hot mess, with there being no toilets or bars upstairs
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Post by cavocado on Mar 10, 2024 10:36:05 GMT
What is unforgivable is when they put uncomfortable seats in modern theatres with configurable seating. The Young Vic prime offenders with those stupid seats where both the seat and back rest are split into two pieces. Yes, it's weird how some seats don't seem to have been properly tested by actual humans in a range of sizes/heights. The new seats at the Swan in Stratford for example - nice idea to have fold up ones, and they're fairly comfortable, but they're too lightweight, so people sitting down heavily or fidgeting during the show also jiggle everyone else in the row, which is annoying. Hampstead seats have a backrest that isn't in the right place for anyone I've been there with. I agree with marob about SohoPlace - why would anyone design a brand new theatre without decent legroom? Most comfortable seats: The Royal Court is good for comfort, legroom and also quite wide seats. Lyric Hammersmith, RST Stratford, Gillian Lynne, NT, Bridge, Barbican and Old Vic are also good.
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Post by Distant Dreamer... on Mar 10, 2024 10:37:16 GMT
To add to the list of annoyance…the Adelphi. The men’s toilets are tiny and so few given the audience capacity. If you dash off at the interval it would be quicker to use the ones in Charing Cross Station!
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Post by lotster on Mar 10, 2024 11:02:59 GMT
The ladies loos at the Peacock Theatre are awful and there is always a huge queue, which snakes round the whole bar area.
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Post by Distant Dreamer... on Mar 10, 2024 12:32:59 GMT
The ladies loos at the Peacock Theatre are awful and there is always a huge queue, which snakes round the whole bar area. I don’t think anyone would miss this venue if it closed.
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 10, 2024 13:27:39 GMT
The gents loos at the Fortune are hilarious. They have a sloping ceiling and the three urinals are positioned around the corner of the tiny room, so (without being too graphic) you have to simultaneously lean your top half backwards while thrusting your bottom half forwards and squeezing yourself in between two other people. All at the same time as other people are trying to come into the room and directly facing you. When you retract to wash your hands, everyone has to do a sort of polite game of human Tetris to get into the right spaces for whatever they're doing.
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Post by Distant Dreamer... on Mar 10, 2024 16:01:52 GMT
The gents loos at the Fortune are hilarious. They have a sloping ceiling and the three urinals are positioned around the corner of the tiny room, so (without being too graphic) you have to simultaneously lean your top half backwards while thrusting your bottom half forwards and squeezing yourself in between two other people. All at the same time as other people are trying to come into the room and directly facing you. When you retract to wash your hands, everyone has to do a sort of polite game of human Tetris to get into the right spaces for whatever they're doing. Been there…done that! It’s part of the fortune theatre experience 😂😂😂
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Post by sf on Mar 11, 2024 14:43:14 GMT
The Gillian Lynne auditorium is very comfy, love the high backed gallery seats, but the FOH areas are a hot mess, with there being no toilets or bars upstairs There's a Gents' loo in the Gillian Lynne circle next to door 6. Presumably there's a Ladies up there somewhere too.
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Post by Distant Dreamer... on Mar 11, 2024 17:14:25 GMT
I can’t remember which level, but in the Theatre Royal Haymarket (maybe dress circle level) to get to the men’s toilet you have to climb about 2 fights of stairs in a random narrow corridor. It’s quite an amusing experience.
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Post by ptwest on Mar 13, 2024 16:24:22 GMT
Couldnt actually stand up in the gents at the Fortune. It was like being in a plane!
I have to say the worst offender for me is the Victoria Palace - after the renovation it looks absolutely stunning, but was a massively missed opportunity for comfort. Legroom in the stalls was impossibly tight. After experiencing the generosity of the space in the Prince Of Wales after refurbishment I had hoped for something similar. I appreciate its a balance between number of seats / comfort / revenue but this could have been the Rolls Royce of theatres in London but once you get past the decoration it is sadly lacking. I find this harder to forgive than the theatres which haven't (yet) had money spent on them.
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Post by theatregoer22 on Mar 13, 2024 19:07:50 GMT
Two that spring to mind from my last year of theatre going. The Phoenix, where I thought I was going to fall getting to my seat in the upper circle, it was so steep up there. And the Fortune Theatre, where my dress circle seat left me sat practically on top of the people either side of me (neither of whom I knew).
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Post by Distant Dreamer... on Mar 13, 2024 21:09:01 GMT
Couldnt actually stand up in the gents at the Fortune. It was like being in a plane! I have to say the worst offender for me is the Victoria Palace - after the renovation it looks absolutely stunning, but was a massively missed opportunity for comfort. Legroom in the stalls was impossibly tight. After experiencing the generosity of the space in the Prince Of Wales after refurbishment I had hoped for something similar. I appreciate its a balance between number of seats / comfort / revenue but this could have been the Rolls Royce of theatres in London but once you get past the decoration it is sadly lacking. I find this harder to forgive than the theatres which haven't (yet) had money spent on them. Surprisingly for a Frank Matcham theatre, I’ve always disliked the Victoria Palace from an architectural perspective as well as comfort. I totally agree.
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Post by crowblack on Mar 14, 2024 9:29:42 GMT
I do think that someone will one day come up with a concept that allows the seating in these old spaces to be modernised sympathetically but in a completely innovative way. I’ve got a half-formed idea of how it could be done in my head, it includes the stalls being tiered up to the level of the front wall of the dress circle leaving the space which is the rear stalls free for toilets and bars. Like I said, half formed and I’m not an architect so it’s probably cobblers and it would reduce capacity so would never happen. The Coronet in Notting Hill (taken over by the former Printroom) has done a great job, I think - the stalls is now the bar and the circle is the stalls, with a good rake. It retains a fantastic crumbly period atmosphere. The capacity is small though - still, even though I love period architecture and even got a local building listed, as an old goth who used to wear real Victorian clothing in my teens, they really were tiny compared to the 21st c average sized body, and seating and toilets designed for late 19thc physiques and comfort expectations are absurd today. My brother is 6'2" and hates theatregoing in anything other than the most modern theatre - and even then asks me to book him aisle seats. Keep the decor but strip out and redo the seating.
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