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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2023 10:17:30 GMT
A little late now as part of my comment has already been seized upon and disputed but not only did I not say Hampstead WAS having trouble programming plays which would appeal to audiences and sell - I said "if" and it was others' comments which had suggested this might be the case - I am also on record as one of those saying that the Downstairs programming has been far more consistent and rewarding than that of the main house and I stand by that, even though a couple of forthcoming plays in the smaller space, including Sea Creatures, didn't appeal to me. However there is clearly still concern here, which I share, about what is happening generally at Hampstead, hitherto a significant showcase for new writers, especially since the sudden and unannounced departure of the Literary Editor, followed by the more public but equally abrupt resignation of the AD. And I continue to believe that now that funding is tighter than ever, many theatres could usefully share more productions and particularly house transfers of new work, which would benefit everyone: writers, cast, theatres and audiences. Must add that Hampstead Downstairs has been on top form for a good year or so now so I've no issues there. Just 'one of those things' which all theatres experience every now and then.
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Post by cavocado on Apr 2, 2023 9:41:45 GMT
I thought this was okay, 2.5 stars. I liked the theme - about absence and loss, with a central character missing, but also everyone either witholding love, neglecting their loved ones or suffering because of it, but the overarching sea theme - mythology, storytelling, green/blue lighting, repetitiveness, toy lobster - worked less well.
Two of the characters (the daughters) were intensely irritating, even though they made sense psychologically (one in her 20s but behaving like an adolescent, the other smoking and drinking her way through a mostly unwanted pregnancy), but the others were interesting and all were well performed. June Watson even managed to make a mythical creature relatable.
But the slow and unchanging pace was hard to take, and often meant long periods of watching characters make coffee or peel veg. I assume it was meant to mimic the waves we could hear in the background, and I did find it quite hypnotic at times, but it could be crashingly dull too.
So some parts interesting, maybe not a success overall, but I liked what (I think) it was trying to do.
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Post by londonpostie on Apr 2, 2023 11:07:57 GMT
So some parts interesting, maybe not a success overall, but I liked what (I think) it was trying to do. Sea Creatures? I was there yesterday afternoon. It's the first piece I struggled to get to get to grips with in a while. Anyone want to start a Whatsapp group .. from Hans Christian Anderson to Bertolt Brecht meets Iris Murdoch? For lobster fans, from Salvador Dali to Jordan Peterson, and Lord knows where else.
The flipping of doormat/strength archetypes was entertaining and I liked how it resolved.
I would say it's imperative to read the free programme before going in, particularly the pages about Selkies and sea myths.
Ambitious writing, very strong cast, intriguing ideas. Helpful to be on your best game and to read up beforehand. Important to haver this kind of challenge available. Well done Hampstead and all concerned.
Word of warning: 1 hour 50 straight through. Impressive that all 160 souls in the basement held out, esp. given the average age at Hampstead is around 97. Those of an unpredictable bladder might want to sit nearer the entrance.
4 1/4 trips out of 5 (to St Ives or Newlyn).
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Post by cavocado on Apr 3, 2023 15:18:52 GMT
So some parts interesting, maybe not a success overall, but I liked what (I think) it was trying to do. Sea Creatures?
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I would say it's imperative to read the free programme before going in, particularly the pages about Selkies and sea myths.
Yes, Sea Creatures - sorry, I forgot this was a general thread for Hampstead Downstairs. Good point about the programme. I only had time of a quick skim read beforehand, but it helped...
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Post by Forrest on Apr 3, 2023 15:49:15 GMT
I'm adding myself to the list of people who did not like "Sea Creatures". Those on here who know me a little (from posting) will know that no theatre event makes me as enthusiastic as the opportunity to see Tom Mothersdale on stage, as I tend to find him brilliant in everything, but not even he could salvage this for me: I found it... quite dull, too slow and somewhat pretentious. The dialogues felt forced and unnatural, as someone noted already about half of the characters are quite unlikable (the mother and the sisters), and I shouldn't even mention the toy lobster bit... It just didn't work for me. The cast are excellent (I mean, Mothersdale and June Watson and Pearl Chanda), the design is quite lovely, I liked "Love and other acts of violence" quite a lot, and I didn't dislike anything I've seen that was directed by James Macdonald ever before, but this was a disappointment.
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Post by Steve on Apr 13, 2023 17:16:50 GMT
I really liked "Sea Creatures" this afternoon. While we witness day to day banal scenes, the play wants us to think about the meaning of life, and I did, so that's really something. Some spoilers follow. . . There is a line about humans evolving from the Ocean, so it's pretty clear that the Sea Creatures of the title are us, and this is a play less about plot than about how we sea creatures should spend the time we have. June Watson's mystical character clues us in that if one lives a life without agency (hers has been stolen from her), even an apparently good one, looked at from the outside, it's awful. So Tom Mothersdale's Mark, who has the most agency, but has fallen into misery, because he has lost his love, is the key character here. He has so much passion for life: not only is he looking for his love, but he seeks a genuine connection with her family members: he has written an appraisal and critique of the work of the family matriarch, his love's mother, and seeks her opinion; he has learned how to cook every dish in the world and seeks to share his knowledge; he flirts with his missing love's sister (though she evades him); he participates in the games the family plays; he is open to new things and finding new reasons to live. Other characters are less open to change: Grace Saif's Toni is in a state of arrested adolescence, a kind of Peter Pan who refuses to grow up or change; Pearl Chanda's George hates her own pregnancy and actively works against it, smoking and drinking; Geraldine Alexander's Shirley wanders through rooms in a self-absorbed zombie state; Thusitha Jayasandara's Sarah, the matriarch's partner, seems thoroughly contented with her lot, though she aspires to nothing new. The play is suffused with the sounds of the sea and nature (seagulls and storms), which remind us of the oblivion we came from and which we'll return to, as well as the repetitive nature of our days in between. The question the play seems to ask is whether the essential tenet of Buddhism is right or wrong: is it painful to desire, suggesting we might better off using the little time we have like complacent zombies, or, confronted with loss and obstacles, should we seek "a brave new world that has such people in it" (like Miranda in the Tempest) even if so many people in the world are living in contented or discontented zombie states? The question seems genuinely open, but my heart was completely with Mothersdale's character, and his quest to follow his desires, to learn things, to teach things, to participate in things, to have agency in everything. I'm downgrading this from 4 stars to 3 and a half stars cos it clearly was losing some members of the audience to sleep, and that's a shame, as it offers so much that's interesting to think about, and hasn't found a way to get enough people thinking about them. Illuminating and entrancing and wonderfully difficult, nonetheless. I really enjoyed it.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Apr 23, 2023 9:03:28 GMT
For those who have seen Sea Creatures the writer discusses the play in the latest episode of The Play Podcast, obviously some spoilers and plot discussions so best to listen after seeing the play. www.theplaypodcast.com/061-sea-creatures-by-cordelia-lynn/Puts things in perspective, found it maybe ten minutes too long as my attention did wander at times when I saw it on Friday.
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Post by greenswan on Apr 28, 2023 7:57:49 GMT
I enjoyed this slightly more than Blackout Songs but not quite three stars. Wildly overlong, strange artificial characters and I couldn't get a sense of what the purpose of it all was. Drifted pretty badly in the middle and during the monologue. And the toy lobster was plain weird. Did like the lighting though. If I, maybe unfairly, compare this to Islander that managed to evoke a much stronger sense of the liminal spaces next to the sea.
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Post by drmaplewood on May 5, 2023 11:22:34 GMT
I have a spare £5 ticket for the first preview of Biscuits for Breakfast tonight if anyone is at a loose end, 85 mins according to the box office.
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Post by Dave B on May 11, 2023 12:51:26 GMT
Did anyone see Biscuits for Breakfast then?
We saw it Monday and it was... okay. The two cast are really good but also appear to be in different plays. It was rare that I saw anything in the relationship between them. The premise and so much about the food banks as in the programme doesn't come until late and then instead of exploring that it really just takes off into other directions. Lots of cliches and lots of just really odd pieces of the story.
A bit of a shame as there was a lot of promise in their meeting and initial date over dinner and some of the cooking stuff works really well but overall, left like it was a missed opportunity.
Though again £5 preview tickets downstairs are pretty unbeatable value...
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Post by cavocado on May 11, 2023 15:29:57 GMT
I saw it last weekend and agree with everything you've said. Interesting premise to explore a relationship through food - eating, cooking and hunger. Two relationships really - the father/son too. But not well enough developed, either in the ideas or the relationship between the couple.
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Post by mrbluesky on May 26, 2023 8:25:51 GMT
Saw Biscuits for Breakfast earlier this week, and enjoyed it overall, but as others have said it does feel a bit underdeveloped. The two cast members give good and engaging performances, but the play just feels a bit rushed, especially the whole food bank story, which should be the crux of the play in my opinion.
Definitely glad I saw it, but not one I'd rush back to.
3 stars.
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Post by drmaplewood on Jun 19, 2023 13:17:52 GMT
I have a spare for Stumped this evening, free to a good home.
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Post by Dave B on Jun 20, 2023 19:07:20 GMT
Stumped.
Some of it was totally lost on me, I did not get a single cricket joke or reference and I'm sure only got some of the Beckett and Pinter references but this was still a really enjoyable evening. The two men are good, they work well together and quite easily present a feeling of a long-term friendship and some respect for the others work (more respect from Pinter!). Sometimes funny and the second act really embraces some absurdity, with the two men really bouncing off each other. More than a pleasant evening and 100% not just for cricket fans.
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Post by cavocado on Jun 20, 2023 19:27:01 GMT
Stumped.
Some of it was totally lost on me, I did not get a single cricket joke or reference and I'm sure only got some of the Beckett and Pinter references but this was still a really enjoyable evening. The two men are good, they work well together and quite easily present a feeling of a long-term friendship and some respect for the others work (more respect from Pinter!). Sometimes funny and the second act really embraces some absurdity, with the two men really bouncing off each other. More than a pleasant evening and 100% not just for cricket fans.
I don't know anything about cricket, so I'm pleased to read your review. I was planning to take a friend who is a cricket fan, occasional theatregoer, but probably knows next to nothing about Pinter or Beckett. Do you need to know about their work to enjoy the play? I am worried we might both feel bewildered, but at least only for 70 minutes!
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Post by Dave B on Jun 20, 2023 21:31:00 GMT
cavocado I think you will be more than okay. Some of the references are as simple as the names of plays they wrote and I imagine you'd know a play title or two just from osmosis being on this board which will let you get an extra slight gag here and there.
I suspect that someone who gets all the cricket references and all the theatre references will enjoy it a little more. I don't think there was any point where just a small part of the audience was laughing and I never felt ... I guess excluded by the humour. Thinking more about it now, it's probably a reflection of the quality of the writing, to have those jokes that work for those in the know but that don't leave those not in the know out in the cold. A passing idea of Waiting for Godot will probably add to the show.
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Post by cavocado on Jun 22, 2023 6:49:38 GMT
cavocado I think you will be more than okay. Some of the references are as simple as the names of plays they wrote and I imagine you'd know a play title or two just from osmosis being on this board which will let you get an extra slight gag here and there.
I suspect that someone who gets all the cricket references and all the theatre references will enjoy it a little more. I don't think there was any point where just a small part of the audience was laughing and I never felt ... I guess excluded by the humour. Thinking more about it now, it's probably a reflection of the quality of the writing, to have those jokes that work for those in the know but that don't leave those not in the know out in the cold. A passing idea of Waiting for Godot will probably add to the show.
Thanks, that's good to know. Not sure I'll try and explain Waiting for Godot to my friend beforehand - might be too off-putting, and I certainly don't want him to explain cricket to me. I'm looking forward to seeing what we both make of it.
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