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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 5:42:56 GMT
I really hope I can get excited about this but I am just not at the moment. I don't know why as the Cast Recording is great but I am just not that excited about this coming over. Maybe it is because it is crazily hyped I am just not wanting to be let down and am worried I will be. :/
I say that, I wasn't too excited about In the Heights, but I saw it and loved it so am ready to be proven wrong.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 6, 2016 6:07:01 GMT
I actually CAN see this translated. I think there might be a great appetite for a "rap musical". There is French rap, and I think the French might find great novelty in a show like Hamilton.
I'm slightly skeptical about Australia though. Book of Mormon and The Bodyguard have been rumored to open there forever but nothing has materialized yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 7:07:57 GMT
I really hope I can get excited about this but I am just not at the moment. I don't know why as the Cast Recording is great but I am just not that excited about this coming over. Maybe it is because it is crazily hyped I am just not wanting to be let down and am worried I will be. :/
I say that, I wasn't too excited about In the Heights, but I saw it and loved it so am ready to be proven wrong. Honestly if you like the cast recording I doubt you will feel let down. From what I've seen the only people who have not liked the show or been disappointed by it are people that hate rap or that hate it being part of theatre. It's also a much better show than In the Heights. Not that In the Heights is bad but: 1. Lin came up with the concept for ITH and wrote the music and lyrics but did not write the dialogue. Most critics of ITH have issues with the book rather than the music/lyrics. He wrote everything for Hamilton. 2. He started writing In the Heights when he was still in university, he has become a much more accomplished and experienced writer since. 3. Hamilton is a much more ambitious and complex piece which makes it all the more impressive to watch. I saw Hamilton back in August (before the cast recording came out) and the first thing I said to my friend at the interval was 'the lighting is amazing.' There is so much more to this show than the (brilliant) music. The staging of numbers like Satisfied, Yorktown, It's Quiet Uptown and the finale make them a million times more effective so even if you listen to the cast recording all day every day you will find things to be impressed by when you see the show for the first time. However, having low expectations is not a bad thing. It ensures you wont be overly disappointed. I do think you'll be the opposite however.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 6, 2016 12:29:44 GMT
Right -- I saw Hamilton once before the cast recording came out and once after. I really do think it's one of those "whole-experience" type of shows. Of course, people freaking out in a good way over the cast recording and wanting little more than to see it live just based on that probably proves me wrong (or just shows that people are different). And I'm not even a huge fan of the show.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 12:33:50 GMT
Am I the only one not overly bothered about the transfer ??
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Post by Steffi on Apr 6, 2016 12:38:11 GMT
Am I the only one not overly bothered about the transfer ?? You and Michael. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 12:42:14 GMT
You can't be *that* unbothered about Hamilton if you took time out of your day to go into a thread about Hamilton, have a bit of a read on the subject of Hamilton, then share a thought on Hamilton. Unless... you're one of *those* people.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 16:42:58 GMT
You can't be *that* unbothered about Hamilton if you took time out of your day to go into a thread about Hamilton, have a bit of a read on the subject of Hamilton, then share a thought on Hamilton. Unless... you're one of *those* people..... I have... It doesn't interet me at all the story or music to be honest. Not my sort of show by first impressions, could give it q go but it's at the bottom of the list below musicals I really want to see.
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Post by infofreako on Apr 6, 2016 17:26:40 GMT
Not sure you caught the point baemax was making
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 17:32:13 GMT
Not sure you caught the point baemax was making What was the point?
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Post by Mr Wallacio on Apr 6, 2016 19:50:06 GMT
Not sure you caught the point baemax was making What was the point? That if you had no interest in the show at all you wouldn't have taken time to open this thread and make a comment in it is basically what Baemax was getting at
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 7, 2016 16:14:40 GMT
You can't be *that* unbothered about Hamilton if you took time out of your day to go into a thread about Hamilton, have a bit of a read on the subject of Hamilton, then share a thought on Hamilton. Unless... you're one of *those* people.....
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Post by andrew on Apr 7, 2016 21:36:12 GMT
Was about to pre-order the Hamilton book (as Miranda calls it, the Hamiltome) until I saw there's to be an audiobook. Now I can't decide between an audiobook with narration or a lyric book with notes. I have Finishing The Hat from Sondheim and found that I pretty much ignored the printed lyrics and just read the prose and annotations around them, so I'm tempted to wait for this audiobook.
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Post by Seriously on Apr 8, 2016 5:42:24 GMT
I've tried and tried, but I still can't hear what you guys hear (and yes, I do work in musical theatre).
The thought of lots of Arts Ed ensemble boys at the VP with terrible Brooklyn accents thinking they can do rap in 18th Century frills just fills me with dread.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 8, 2016 6:12:09 GMT
^ Not many of the cast will be Arts Ed/musical theatre trained people. They tend to have open calls and look for people with r&b/rap background rather than classically trained theatre performers.
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Post by Seriously on Apr 8, 2016 18:32:47 GMT
Yeah, British "open auditions" don't have the greatest track record in actually finding people. They're usually just a cheap source of advertising.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 8, 2016 18:35:03 GMT
There will be other means to find performers of a different background through talent agents (stylistically, I mean). There's tons of performers who can dance, sing and rap who don't do musicals and end up being backup singers and dancers for top performers like Beyonce, Madonna, etc. List goes on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 20:57:49 GMT
They cast the London production of In the Heights fine and that's a much smaller production than Hamilton will be.
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Post by andrew on Apr 8, 2016 21:06:51 GMT
Hamilton is going to have no problems casting all the known and unknown talent there is to be found. If they're struggling to fill believable leads they'll also have no financial issues with pulling across acting talent from America.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 8, 2016 21:13:07 GMT
Didn't Lin just more or less say he's opening it in London? How is wife wants him to do things in different countries and how he'd love to do it in London?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 22:20:31 GMT
He did say he would love to do it in London. It's not guaranteed though, things could have changed. He's becoming busier every week and he might be sick of playing the role by now, who knows? Leslie Odom Jr has also expressed interest in coming to London.
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Post by Jon on Apr 8, 2016 22:25:58 GMT
He did say he would love to do it in London. It's not guaranteed though, things could have changed. He's becoming busier every week and he might be sick of playing the role by now, who knows? Leslie Odom Jr has also expressed interest in coming to London. I imagine it depends when it opens in London, I think he'll leave once cast change happens for the Broadway company, he was or still is working on Moana, the upcoming Disney animated film as well as perform in Hamilton. I think he might do a few months in London but not any longer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 22:43:55 GMT
He did say he would love to do it in London. It's not guaranteed though, things could have changed. He's becoming busier every week and he might be sick of playing the role by now, who knows? Leslie Odom Jr has also expressed interest in coming to London. I imagine it depends when it opens in London, I think he'll leave once cast change happens for the Broadway company, he was or still is working on Moana, the upcoming Disney animated film as well as perform in Hamilton. I think he might do a few months in London but not any longer. Yes I could easily see him leaving the Broadway cast in July, taking a year or so off to work on other things and then opening the show in London for 3-6 months. He will definitely be done with Moana as that is out this November but knowing what he's like, I'm sure he'll have started working on something else by then. Just don't want to get my hopes up so will remain as realistic as possible haha.
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Post by Jon on Apr 8, 2016 22:50:40 GMT
Yes I could easily see him leaving the Broadway cast in July, taking a year or so off to work on other things and then opening the show in London for 3-6 months. He will definitely be done with Moana as that is out this November but knowing what he's like, I'm sure he'll have started working on something else by then. Just don't want to get my hopes up so will remain as realistic as possible haha. Even if he doesn't star in it, he'll still be actively involved with the West End transfer as part of the creative team.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 8:54:55 GMT
I've been reasearching and listening to some clips from the show.
Will the storyline appeal to UK audiences too? The story is about America, will it appeal to us?
The songs sound super catchy though but i think it will do better on Broadway than over here
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 9:05:16 GMT
Well, Evita worked for UK in spite of its Argentine subject, and Les Mis seems pretty popular even though people's knowledge of French history doesn't extend as far as the June Rebellion, and how much do British people know about Mormonism anyway?
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Post by Steffi on Apr 10, 2016 9:09:32 GMT
There might not be as much of an extreme hype over here but I don't see why a gripping show about American history won't appeal to a UK audience (and don't forget all those tourists from all over the world who come to London and watch shows).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 9:36:47 GMT
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Post by infofreako on Apr 10, 2016 10:29:45 GMT
I was going to respond to the comment about its subject matter but I've been beaten to it. I certainly don't think location of a story matters though
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Post by primitivewallflower on Apr 10, 2016 18:48:48 GMT
And as a counterpoint, remember the example of Rent: a hyped US musical with a story that was far more universal and ahistorical than Hamilton... and it only played for, what, less than 2 years in London IIRC? So it's just tough to predict.
I think Hamilton will do fine but with the caveat that the story arc and the stakes involved are a little more tied up in actual history than Les Miz or even Evita.
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