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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 10:14:13 GMT
Also isn't it just kinda "fun" for the audience and the actor if they're not exactly a celebrity but 'known'
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Post by Nelly on Jan 27, 2017 10:23:05 GMT
I don't think they *need* a name for King George, but I've been saying for months I reckon they'll get one anyway. Not a Chicago-style celeb who is cast purely for their star factor and not for their ability, they'll get someone who's thoroughly capable of doing a good job, but they will be at the very least well-known to regular theatre-goers, and possibly even an actual household name. What's John Barrowman up to?
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Post by MoreLife on Jan 27, 2017 11:53:04 GMT
Well... since Lin-Manuel's goal in the US has clearly been casting representatives of the various minorities in theoretically "white" roles, what if, in these Brexit times, they were to cast a EU citizen as King George?
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Post by viserys on Jan 27, 2017 12:01:37 GMT
Well... since Lin-Manuel's goal in the US has clearly been casting representatives of the various minorities in theoretically "white" roles, what if, in these Brexit times, they were to cast a EU citizen as King George? Well, King George was sorta German, wasn't he? I'll gladly volunteer for the part.
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Post by Marwood on Jan 27, 2017 12:01:40 GMT
I don't think they *need* a name for King George, but I've been saying for months I reckon they'll get one anyway. Not a Chicago-style celeb who is cast purely for their star factor and not for their ability, they'll get someone who's thoroughly capable of doing a good job, but they will be at the very least well-known to regular theatre-goers, and possibly even an actual household name. What's John Barrowman up to? Les Dennis is available once She Loves Me finishes at the Menier in March...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 12:02:44 GMT
What's John Barrowman up to? Les Dennis is available once She Loves Me finishes at the Menier in March... Unfortunately, he's touring in Addams Family. Damn...
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Post by westendwendy on Jan 27, 2017 12:07:53 GMT
Wonderful casting and all performers are excellent. So so pleased Rachel John is in the cast. I wonder that white equivalents think of the casting? They are after all theoretically and historically white historical figures no? With the Founding Fathers being a group of rich white men who created a government to benefit people like themselves I think that Hamilton "reclaims" the history of America's founding by placing people of colour at the center of it. It allows people of colour to see themselves as a part of history - not just as slaves and servants, but as men (and women, to a lesser degree) of power and influence. I don't have a problem with such casting and indeed the show with its hip hop influence was written for BAME representation. I find the reverse casting fascinating and I'm excited to see the show very much. Rachel Ann Go is also super.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 13:24:12 GMT
OMG my girls Rachel John and Rachelle Ann Go!!!! So excited!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 13:25:41 GMT
I don't think they *need* a name for King George, but I've been saying for months I reckon they'll get one anyway. Not a Chicago-style celeb who is cast purely for their star factor and not for their ability, they'll get someone who's thoroughly capable of doing a good job, but they will be at the very least well-known to regular theatre-goers, and possibly even an actual household name. What's John Barrowman up to? Given the casting breakdown is (probably) "White and a bit camp if possible" I'd say that's ideal.
ETA: Before anyone jumps on it, I've always presumed that the King is the one role intentionally cast as a white actor in order to emphasise the wider diverse casting point. I could be wrong, I'm not LMM.
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Post by Sari on Jan 27, 2017 13:43:13 GMT
I think Hamilton and King George III are confirmed but they don't want to say anything because they are huge and you know, if it's hard to get tickets already imagine if they announce two celebrities, the fanbases would explode. They're probably going to announce them in a couple of weeks or so.
My Dreamcast: Hamilton - Riz Ahmed (I mean, that picture Lin uploaded was suspicious, he is british and can 100% rap) King George III - JOHN BARROWMAN. He is currently doing pants in UK soooo... yeah. And pleaseeeee, he nailed the da da da da part when he sang You'll Be Back with the Arrow Cast.
Thoughts?
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Post by danb on Jan 27, 2017 13:49:09 GMT
So pleased that Jason Pennycooke is in there. There were a couple of roles in Dreamgirls I thought he'd be nailed on for, but hoped he must have got something here instead. 👍
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Jan 27, 2017 13:59:15 GMT
Do any of you remember when I came on here and said that an auditionee of Hamilton told me Lin would be performing? Well this auditionee has got the role! I am still holding out hope that Lin will be performing, keeping my fingers crossed!
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Post by Sari on Jan 27, 2017 14:06:59 GMT
Do any of you remember when I came on here and said that an auditionee of Hamilton told me Lin would be performing? Well this auditionee has got the role! I am still holding out hope that Lin will be performing, keeping my fingers crossed! Buuuuut what role? Hamilton, I assume Weren't they still auditioning for Ham and George?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 14:13:40 GMT
I think Hamilton and King George III are confirmed but they don't want to say anything because they are huge and you know, if it's hard to get tickets already imagine if they announce two celebrities, the fanbases would explode. They're probably going to announce them in a couple of weeks or so. My Dreamcast: Hamilton - Riz Ahmed (I mean, that picture Lin uploaded was suspicious, he is british and can 100% rap) King George III - JOHN BARROWMAN. He is currently doing pants in UK soooo... yeah. And pleaseeeee, he nailed the da da da da part when he sang You'll Be Back with the Arrow Cast. Thoughts? I WOULD BUY EVEN MORE TOP PRICE TICKETS FOR A RIZ AHMED ALEXANDER HAMILTON.
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Post by charliec on Jan 27, 2017 14:22:16 GMT
I'm more and more convinced that Riz would be a brilliant Hamilton. His acting career is on a huge upward trajectory so it might be odd career wise to stop and do at least 6 months in a WE show even if it is Hamilton. Also they've always said they want to shy away from star casting as the show is the star... Would Riz be considered star casting? I guess he's not a household name yet.
Having said all that he's obviously on the mixtape, has been pictured with Lin and can rap, sing and act so would be brilliant.
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Post by ali973 on Jan 27, 2017 14:28:16 GMT
That would be fantastic if he ends up getting lead. Keep in mind there will be an alternate Hamilton too.
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Post by andrew on Jan 27, 2017 14:54:59 GMT
It makes sense from a marketing perspective to hold any big names they have behind. They got a top story on BBC News on the basis of people who are relatively unknown to the general public, they can get it again (twice over if they want) if they've got a big name for King George, and any name really for Hamilton.
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Post by stuart on Jan 27, 2017 15:16:44 GMT
I don't know why but I'm fully expecting Michael Ball to be announced as King George.
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Post by ali973 on Jan 27, 2017 15:17:57 GMT
Didn't Hamilton Addict tell us some time ago that Rachel John got it and we all flipped out on him because we thought the entire thing was rather unprofessional? I remember someone here mentioning something about a tip they got at some stage door.
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Post by alison on Jan 27, 2017 16:10:06 GMT
I was obviously excited about this anyway (did manage to get a ticket during presale for the first Friday, even if it is right at the back of the stalls), now I'm even more so. They haven't put a foot wrong with the casting so far yet, imo. I can see the point about about the latino and asian representation, but we haven't had the ensemble yet so hopefully they'll have some actors in there of latino/asian origin.
And I must admit, I like the idea of John Barrowman as King George.
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Post by andrew on Jan 27, 2017 16:34:06 GMT
There's a lot of things I'd hate John Barrowman in, but somehow King George isn't one of them. Bring it on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 18:53:06 GMT
I'm more and more convinced that Riz would be a brilliant Hamilton. His acting career is on a huge upward trajectory so it might be odd career wise to stop and do at least 6 months in a WE show even if it is Hamilton. Also they've always said they want to shy away from star casting as the show is the star... Would Riz be considered star casting? I guess he's not a household name yet. I have no idea who he is!
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Post by Sari on Jan 27, 2017 19:04:08 GMT
I'm more and more convinced that Riz would be a brilliant Hamilton. His acting career is on a huge upward trajectory so it might be odd career wise to stop and do at least 6 months in a WE show even if it is Hamilton. Also they've always said they want to shy away from star casting as the show is the star... Would Riz be considered star casting? I guess he's not a household name yet. I have no idea who he is! Listen to Immigrants (Hamilton Mixtape), he raps in there! (Riz MC) He is also in Rogue One, the pilot. About the star casting I wouldn't consider him as a "star casting", he is known but not that known I guess. I think Hamilton would be huge for him and a great way to mix acting and rapping.
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Post by foxa on Jan 27, 2017 19:06:54 GMT
He's also brilliant in the film 'Nightcrawler' (worth catching.)
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Post by carmella1 on Jan 27, 2017 19:49:34 GMT
I don't know why but I'm fully expecting Michael Ball to be announced as King George. No No No. That would be as bad as Alfe Boe. Besides he could not use his blessed vibrato. Actualy John would be brilliant but he has signed a 2 or 3 year deal with the CW and it is one thing to take off a couple of weeks for Panto when the shows are shut down, but a complete run is quite different. Also I am not sure the amount of actual stage time would suit him.
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