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Post by cirque on May 4, 2016 9:35:01 GMT
Do you mean Septemb er 2017 .......?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:44:49 GMT
Do you mean Septemb er 2017 .......? Yes. |
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Post by cirque on May 4, 2016 9:52:37 GMT
That fits with Victoria Palace availability then.......
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 11:48:26 GMT
That fits with Victoria Palace availability then....... This is all but confirmed! |
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Post by primitivewallflower on May 4, 2016 12:00:21 GMT
Whether it deserves to win in all of them I'm not sure, but every one of those nominations is justifiable, it really is a musical which excelled in every department. Yep I agree. I don't think it deserves to win them all and I don't think it will, but it definitely deserved to break the nominations record. I think most people consider it to be a better show than Billy Elliot and The Producers, so why not? What's funny is The Producers won 12, and even though I think Hamilton is far and away better than the The Producers overall, I agree there are categories where Hamilton won't or probably shouldn't win so will probably end up far short of The Producers' win record. So it's just as much about the relative strength of the year in which it's competing. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 15:02:00 GMT
BOO so I've dug out the casting notices. When it came to casting for Broadway, and maybe the Public run too, ethnicities were specified as non-white for every single character except King George, but I don't have that written here, you'll either have to trust me or do a Google.  In the meantime, thought some of you might get a kick out of these basic descriptions: |
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Post by 49thand8th on May 10, 2016 15:12:20 GMT
Yeah, I don't think the non-ethnicity part of these casting calls have changed much since it was down at the Public. And I LOVE them.
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Post by Steffi on May 10, 2016 15:18:13 GMT
My favourite casting calls ever! Eminem meets Sweeney Todd... :-)
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Post by talkstageytome on May 10, 2016 15:52:23 GMT
I've been trying for months to put together my own personal dream cast for this show on the West End but it's harder than I thought it would be. So far for me I've got...
Angelica - Rachel John (I have no idea if she can rap, but she's certainly 'dazzling and brilliant' and could probably act the role very well. And to be honest I'd cast her in anything.)
Peggy/Maria - Lily Fraser or Eva Noblezada
King George - Stephen Ashfield (ooor I believe Gavin Creel was linked to this role when it was just a work in progress, and I'd love for him to come back to the UK at some point?)
Eliza - Lucy St Louis. I thought she was fabulous in The Book of Mormon and she came to mind when I was thinking about Hamilton on the West End. Or Joanna Ampil? Okay, she is another person I'd just cast in anything, and although she's perhaps a little older than the broadway counterpart to the role, she looks and sounds younger?
John Laurens / Phillip - Ashley Samuels? Or Cleve September?
It'll certainly be interesting to see who they cast though! Maybe a bit early to start speculating though!
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Post by Steffi on May 10, 2016 15:55:11 GMT
Yes to Stephen Ashfield as King George.
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Post by 49thand8th on May 10, 2016 15:58:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:14:44 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if, for the West End production, the role of King George went to a name. He sings basically the same song three times, it's far from the most challenging sing in the show, it's a good bit of crowd-pleasing hamminess, and what with diversity in the entertainment industry being what it is, it'd be the easiest role to put a name in. Still, we shall see. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 16:22:01 GMT
I'd like to see Jamie Parker as King George one day, especially knowing that he is a fan of the show.
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Post by viserys on May 10, 2016 16:39:08 GMT
Inspired choice, seconded!
While the role of King George isn't big and he does indeed sing the same song three times, you need someone with impeccable comedic timing. I'd hate to see the role ruined by some "celebrity" who can't handle it and just uses it to show off.
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Post by ali973 on May 10, 2016 17:27:24 GMT
Ricky Jervais as KG? Matt Lucas?
They're going with a very corny white boy looks recently with Jonathan Groff, Andrew Rennells and Rory O'Mally but given that burly Brian D'Arcy James played the role originally, I think it opens up the possibility of them being very open to different types.
I think Zoe Birkett would be a fun Angelica. She's definitely very cheeky and fierce in real life. Alexia Khadime is also quite fab and could kill it. It would be cool to get Anika Noni Rose to play her too, after all she was the first Angelica in the reading.
Melissa James as Peggy/Maria.
Rachelle Ann Go as Eliza?
Hugh Maynard as George Washington?
At loss for any other London-based actors who can play Hamilton and Burr.
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Post by 49thand8th on May 10, 2016 17:41:54 GMT
King George can't be that much of a name or else you start to lose focus -- he stands out enough that he's the only super-white person in the cast. Everyone who's played him so far has been a name in theatre-only, although Groff bends that description a bit.
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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 18:58:57 GMT
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Post by ali973 on May 10, 2016 19:02:23 GMT
OMG, let me hold back your hair. Wait you're bald. |
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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 19:05:14 GMT
OMG, let me hold back your hair. Wait you're bald. My God, where'd all my hair go? |
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Post by bjorne on May 10, 2016 21:11:07 GMT
Rachelle Ann Go would be fantastic as Eliza. And I believe she said somewhere that she would be in the show? (I mean, everybody wants to be in Hamilton, I just recall an interview of Rachelle) Stephen Ashfield as King George. Now, I know everyone would probably disagree... but I think that Alexia Khadime would be very good as Peggy/Maria R.Giles Terera as Burr? Anyway, i think that they will probably cast a lot of newcomers. |
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Post by talkstageytome on May 10, 2016 21:53:53 GMT
Rachelle Ann Go would be fantastic as Eliza. And I believe she said somewhere that she would be in the show? (I mean, everybody wants to be in Hamilton, I just recall an interview of Rachelle) Stephen Ashfield as King George. Now, I know everyone would probably disagree... but I think that Alexia Khadime would be very good as Peggy/Maria R.Giles Terera as Burr? Anyway, i think that they will probably cast a lot of newcomers. I actually LOVE Alexia and think she'd be great in this. And love Giles Terera too! I guess casting really depends on who they get as Hamilton as now we know LMM won't open the show here, as everyone would have to be cast around him age wise. I can't think of anyone for him off the top of my head really. |
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Post by andrew on May 10, 2016 23:09:02 GMT
Maybe I'm being idealistic but I don't see there being any need for stunt casting with Hamilton. It's appearance will generate enough box office sales to sell well past the end of a contract you'd get with any big name, so why bother? It'd be a much better thing to do down the line if ticket sales start drying up.
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Post by Jon on May 10, 2016 23:15:12 GMT
If Jamie Parker doesn't extend after a year in Cursed Child, I think he'd a great King George
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 1:31:54 GMT
Maybe I'm being idealistic but I don't see there being any need for stunt casting with Hamilton. It's appearance will generate enough box office sales to sell well past the end of a contract you'd get with any big name, so why bother? It'd be a much better thing to do down the line if ticket sales start drying up. I don't think that's a certainty at all. Yes, it's a colossal hit on Broadway, but that's meaningless to anyone who's not a big theatre fan/follower. Anything that has played on Broadway is advertised as "the Broadway smash hit/direct from Broadway", so that sort of advertising won't help it any more than any other show, and it doesn't have a popular movie/book behind it to help the advertising either (the book it's based on is more relevant to the US than here). Plus Lin-Manuel Miranda is not a big name to the general UK public. Yes, it will probably be a hit the same way Mormon was, but I don't think an instant advance sell-out for months is at all guaranteed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 8:26:33 GMT
When I said "a name", I was kind of thinking of someone who's an excellent musical theatre performer but who also has some renown outside musical theatre circles too.  For example, I believe Dominic West has said he'd love to play the role (although the only musical I've seen him in is My Fair Lady so I don't know what his singing is actually like), or I wouldn't be displeased if someone like, say, Simon Russell Beale were to get involved. Stunt casting someone in any role purely because they're famous without any consideration for whether or not they can actually do a good job should never be condoned outside pantomime (and practised a helluva lot less inside pantomime). Although I'm a stickler for the idea that it doesn't matter what a musical is about, a hip-hop musical about a lesser-known founding father of the US was an odd idea to begin with, and it wouldn't hurt it to give it a little sellability boost for the UK audience with casting this one particular role, as long as it can be done in a way that benefits the production. |
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In the meantime, thought some of you might get a kick out of these basic descriptions:
For example, I believe Dominic West has said he'd love to play the role (although the only musical I've seen him in is My Fair Lady so I don't know what his singing is actually like), or I wouldn't be displeased if someone like, say, Simon Russell Beale were to get involved. Stunt casting someone in any role purely because they're famous without any consideration for whether or not they can actually do a good job should never be condoned outside pantomime (and practised a helluva lot less inside pantomime). Although I'm a stickler for the idea that it doesn't matter what a musical is about, a hip-hop musical about a lesser-known founding father of the US was an odd idea to begin with, and it wouldn't hurt it to give it a little sellability boost for the UK audience with casting this one particular role, as long as it can be done in a way that benefits the production.