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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 30, 2023 20:16:12 GMT
These replies are hysterical.
Itâs not Newcastle or the bloody RSC đ€Ł
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Post by sf on Aug 30, 2023 20:19:33 GMT
It's going to open the rebuilt Oldham Coliseum in 2026, with Sue Devaney playing Miranda. And Andy. And Emily. And Nigel.
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Post by danb on Aug 30, 2023 20:51:53 GMT
LOVE her. Her work in Johnny Briggs was super.
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Post by Jon on Aug 30, 2023 20:53:36 GMT
These replies are hysterical. Itâs not Newcastle or the bloody RSC đ€Ł The RSC being suggested is lunacy, none of its theatres are suitable for any sort of tryout nor is that the purpose of the RSC. |
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Aug 30, 2023 21:05:49 GMT
If Jamie Wilson gets involved it could be Newcastle a bit like drifters girl? It was Michael Harrison doing the drifters girl |
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Post by shownut on Aug 31, 2023 6:02:52 GMT
These replies are hysterical. Itâs not Newcastle or the bloody RSC đ€Ł The RSC being suggested is lunacy, none of its theatres are suitable for any sort of tryout nor is that the purpose of the RSC. Read your history and maybe take the sarcasm down a bit? Suggesting an opinion you don't agree with that is based on fact as 'lunacy' doesn't do you any favours. MATILDA played the RSC before a West End transfer. THE BOY IN A DRESS was considered a tryout but a West End transfer never materialised (thank God). Those shows may have been produced by the RSC rather than merely hosted but both were big-budget musicals with transfers in mind. Their mainstage was used for both musicals, neither of which were minimal in terms of size. CARRIE had it's infamous tryout there prior to Broadway in 1988 and LES MIZ tried out at the Barbican when it was used as the London home of the RSC. Both had independent producers but the RSC had potential benefits as host if either were successful. They generated ÂŁ25mil from the success of Les Miz. In terms of 'not it's purpose', have you seen the state of subscription based theatres across the UK since the pandemic? Given the economic downturn and the fact that many are at risk of closing, nothing is off the table in terms of what theatres will/will not produce. Aside from the weak economy and the reduction of arts funding, punters are mostly working from home these days which means they likely don't go out as much. That includes attending the theatre on a weeknight. The rules, at least for now, have sadly changed. In short, any producing theatre sticking to their 'purpose' these days without flexibility might have to think twice if they want to keep their doors open. The RSC may not the chosen theatre according to Mr Barnaby but it is far from 'lunacy' to suggest it as a possibility. |
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Post by shownut on Aug 31, 2023 8:21:59 GMT
The RSC being suggested is lunacy, none of its theatres are suitable for any sort of tryout nor is that the purpose of the RSC. Read your history and maybe take the sarcasm down a bit? Suggesting an opinion you don't agree with as 'lunacy' doesn't do you any favours. And aren't we past making allusions about one's mental health on chat forums these days? It isn't on. MATILDA played the RSC before a West End transfer. THE BOY IN A DRESS was considered a tryout but a West End transfer never materialised (thank God). Those shows may have been produced by the RSC rather than merely hosted but both were big-budget musicals with transfers in mind. The RSC/Stratford main stage was used for both musicals, neither of which were minimal in terms of size. CARRIE had it's infamous tryout there prior to Broadway in 1988 and LES MIZ tried out at the Barbican when it was used as the London home of the RSC. Both had independent producers but the RSC had potential benefits as host if either were successful. They generated ÂŁ25mil from the success of Les Miz. In terms of 'not it's purpose', have you seen the state of subscription based theatres across the UK since the pandemic? Given the economic downturn and the fact that many are at risk of closing, nothing is off the table in terms of what theatres will/will not produce. Aside from the weak economy and the reduction of arts funding, punters are mostly working from home these days which means they likely don't go out as much. That includes attending the theatre on a weeknight. The rules, at least for now, have sadly changed. In short, any producing theatre sticking to their 'purpose' these days without flexibility might have to think twice if they want to keep their doors open. The RSC may not be the 'chosen theatre' according to Mr Barnaby (who claims to be in-the-know) but it is far from 'lunacy' to suggest it as a possibility. |
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Post by Jon on Aug 31, 2023 9:49:38 GMT
Les Miserables was not a surefire hit when it opened at the Barbican and the reason they were involved was because Trevor Nunn was AD at the time of the RSC plus they had just had a hit with Nicholas Nickleby.
I don't know why I am getting piled on for dismissing the RSC as a tryout for The Devil Wears Prada.
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Post by shownut on Aug 31, 2023 10:04:22 GMT
Les Miserables was not a surefire hit when it opened at the Barbican and the reason they were involved was because Trevor Nunn was AD at the time of the RSC plus they had just had a hit with Nicholas Nickleby. I don't know why I am getting piled on for dismissing the RSC as a tryout for The Devil Wears Prada. Because you called it 'lunacy' to merely suggest it which, based on the RSC production history and the current economic climate, is not a far-fetched suggestion at all. If someone had told me a few years ago we would be seeing WE WILL ROCK YOU play a summer season at home of the ENO I would have thought that to be a weird suggestion. It isn't such a weird idea any more, is it? I might disagree with the views of others but I don't use missives that suggest 'lunacy' when I think otherwise. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Aug 31, 2023 10:09:06 GMT
Les Miserables was not a surefire hit when it opened at the Barbican and the reason they were involved was because Trevor Nunn was AD at the time of the RSC plus they had just had a hit with Nicholas Nickleby. I don't know why I am getting piled on for dismissing the RSC as a tryout for The Devil Wears Prada. Because you called it 'lunacy' to merely suggest it which, based on the RSC production history and the current economic climate, is not a far-fetched suggestion at all. If someone had told me a few years ago we would be seeing WE WILL ROCK YOU play a summer season at home of the ENO I would have thought that to be a weird suggestion. It isn't such a weird idea any more, is it? I might disagree with the views of others but I don't use missives that suggest 'lunacy' when I think otherwise. I agree. The language used by some members lately on here has been unnecessarily aggressivet/hostile. I thought 'lunacy' was a word finally retired in 2023. While Devil Wears Prada is more of a obvious ready made commercial piece than what the RSC has done before, making it very unlikely. Its not 'lunacy' to even suggest it. |
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Post by Jon on Aug 31, 2023 10:33:17 GMT
We Will Rock You wasn't that farfetched for the Coliseum given they had Bat Out of Hell in 2017 as well as the likes of Hairspray and My Fair Lady. The Devil Wears Prada at the Coliseum is believable but a tryout in Stratford Upon Avon, not a chance, they may have had a few musicals in the past but the producers of Devil aren't going to go there.
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Post by shownut on Aug 31, 2023 10:39:43 GMT
We Will Rock You wasn't that farfetched for the Coliseum given they had Bat Out of Hell in 2017 as well as the likes of Hairspray and My Fair Lady. The Devil Wears Prada at the Coliseum is believable but a tryout in Stratford Upon Avon, not a chance, they may have had a few musicals in the past but the producers of Devil aren't going to go there. I agree that they probably won't. But I don't think it is 'lunacy' to merely suggest it. I have made my point. Given the hints being dropped, I would imagine it would be Manchester Opera House but who knows? |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 31, 2023 14:22:45 GMT
We Will Rock You wasn't that farfetched for the Coliseum given they had Bat Out of Hell in 2017 as well as the likes of Hairspray and My Fair Lady. The Devil Wears Prada at the Coliseum is believable but a tryout in Stratford Upon Avon, not a chance, they may have had a few musicals in the past but the producers of Devil aren't going to go there. I agree that they probably won't. But I don't think it is 'lunacy' to merely suggest it. I have made my point. Given the hints being dropped, I would imagine it would be Manchester Opera House but who knows? Itâs not Going To Manchester |
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Post by danb on Aug 31, 2023 14:57:44 GMT
Is this a trick though? Is it going to The Opera House that might count as Salford rather than Manchester because its quite far down Quay Street?
You could just say where it is going so that people stop saying Manchester? Just a thought?
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Post by shownut on Aug 31, 2023 19:39:48 GMT
I agree.
The whole âI know something you donât knowâ routine has a shelf life and this one is very near its expiration date. đ
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Aug 31, 2023 19:45:09 GMT
I agree. The whole âI know something you donât knowâ routine has a shelf life and this one is very near its expiration date. đ Weâll have to tease it out for another fortnight I think |
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Post by kathryn on Aug 31, 2023 20:05:22 GMT
MATILDA played the RSC before a West End transfer. THE BOY IN A DRESS was considered a tryout but a West End transfer never materialised (thank God). Those shows may have been produced by the RSC rather than merely hosted but both were big-budget musicals with transfers in mind But they are both childrenâs shows. Developed as part of the RSCâs remit to introduce young people to theatre - and not necessarily *expected* to transfer to the West End. Matilda was developed as the Christmas show and the transfer only happened because of its rapturous reception. Boy In The Dress wasnât considered a âtryoutâ either - a West End transfer was possible if it did well and was well-reviewed, but not a necessary part of the plan. And as youâve said, despite good reviews, a transfer has not materialised. It wasnât âbig budgetâ either - It featured no stars. It didnât originally have Robbie Williams involved, the RSC asked Guy Chambers to do it and he asked if Robbie could do it with him. Prada just doesnât fit into the RSC remit, and doesnât make business sense either. Make no mistake, Prada is a commercial project, Rocket are not looking to share profits with the RSC, or give over any creative control. |
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Post by shownut on Aug 31, 2023 20:14:36 GMT
MATILDA played the RSC before a West End transfer. THE BOY IN A DRESS was considered a tryout but a West End transfer never materialised (thank God). Those shows may have been produced by the RSC rather than merely hosted but both were big-budget musicals with transfers in mind But they are both childrenâs shows. Developed as part of the RSCâs remit to introduce young people to theatre - and not necessarily *expected* to transfer to the West End. Matilda was developed as the Christmas show and the transfer only happened because of its rapturous reception. Boy In The Dress wasnât considered a âtryoutâ either - a West End transfer was possible if it did well and was well-reviewed, but not a necessary part of the plan. And as youâve said, despite good reviews, a transfer has not materialised. It wasnât âbig budgetâ either - It featured no stars. It didnât originally have Robbie Williams involved, the RSC asked Guy Chambers to do it and he asked if Robbie could do it with him. Prada just doesnât fit into the RSC remit, and doesnât make business sense either. Make no mistake, Prada is a commercial project, Rocket are not looking to share profits with the RSC, or give over any creative control. Thanks but although I admitted it was likely not going the way of the RSC, I stand by what I wrote earlier in terms of anything being possible in today's arts economy. With many subscription-based, producing houses having lost their govt funding or seen it reduced, the cost of living crisis taking its toll and tickets being a tough sell, nothing is off the table in terms of what might appear where. |
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Post by Joseph Buquet on Aug 31, 2023 21:10:11 GMT
I agree. The whole âI know something you donât knowâ routine has a shelf life and this one is very near its expiration date. đ For me, itâs the most irritating thing about this board. Not sure why some people are so insistent on doing it! |
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Post by theatreliker on Aug 31, 2023 21:51:22 GMT
Hope Mill?
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Post by Jon on Sept 1, 2023 0:09:27 GMT
I very much doubt it, it's a big commercial production. |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Sept 1, 2023 3:13:36 GMT
For me, itâs the most irritating thing about this board. Not sure why some people are so insistent on doing it! The ones who say or infer they know something, before it is announced, and then when its does become public, say oh I knew that all along  Yeah, sure you did.... |
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Post by viserys on Sept 1, 2023 4:55:40 GMT
For me, itâs the most irritating thing about this board. Not sure why some people are so insistent on doing it! Because it gets them the attention they crave? Look how many are keen on playing the guessing game. If that's actually FUN for some people, let them. If it irritates you, just take a quick look now and then to see if there has been a proper announcement or some other interesting discussion has spawned. It's what I do. We'll know in good time what happens. Personally I much prefer the out of the blue "Oooh, I didn't see that coming" announcements anyway. |
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Post by Joseph Buquet on Sept 1, 2023 7:33:59 GMT
For me, itâs the most irritating thing about this board. Not sure why some people are so insistent on doing it! Because it gets them the attention they crave? Look how many are keen on playing the guessing game. If that's actually FUN for some people, let them. If it irritates you, just take a quick look now and then to see if there has been a proper announcement or some other interesting discussion has spawned. It's what I do. We'll know in good time what happens. Personally I much prefer the out of the blue "Oooh, I didn't see that coming" announcements anyway. I can see the appeal of having a quick guessing game based on some interesting clues. But the endless power play along the lines of âthe fifth letter of her uncleâs postmanâs dogâs star sign is Eâ, followed by countless responses of âOF COURSE itâs not that - what a RIDICULOUS suggestionâ is a big no from me! |
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Yeah, sure you did....