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Post by Jon on May 6, 2023 11:30:42 GMT
Wouldn't be ALW without reusing scores from failed shows.
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Post by karloscar on May 6, 2023 11:51:33 GMT
Justin Welby really needs voice lessons. He makes every syllable mindnumbingly dull. At least Rowan Williams had a bit of musicality in his speech.
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Post by sukhavati on May 6, 2023 14:06:18 GMT
ALW’s Make A Joyful Noise is giving me very strong Marry For Love vibes. Recycling again Andy? I was trying to think of which of his own tunes he cannibalised. Was halfway wondering if it wouldn't make an appropriate replacement for the megamix curtain call at the end of Joseph... |
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Post by richey on May 6, 2023 14:28:01 GMT
ALW’s Make A Joyful Noise is giving me very strong Marry For Love vibes. Recycling again Andy? I was trying to think of which of his own tunes he cannibalised. Was halfway wondering if it wouldn't make an appropriate replacement for the megamix curtain call at the end of Joseph... He's probably got it lined up for the Aspects of Love revival |
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Post by max on May 6, 2023 15:17:24 GMT
"Rusty you can't be serious, you go in for the race"
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Post by max on May 6, 2023 15:32:46 GMT
....which will fuel the idea that a Starlight Express revival is foremost in his musical mind.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 6, 2023 15:37:30 GMT
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Post by Andy on May 6, 2023 17:07:57 GMT
I was disappointed I couldn’t catch any obvious lifts from his previous stuff but it did remind me of Freddie Mercury’s Man Made Paradise. 56 seconds into this:
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Post by chernjam on May 6, 2023 19:59:22 GMT
My only interest as an American and a Catholic Christian was to hear ALW's anthem, which I found quite beautiful. Particularly the live version in the Abbey with the Pipe Organ. ALW is a gifted composer.
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Post by BVM on May 7, 2023 9:23:10 GMT
My only interest as an American and a Catholic Christian was to hear ALW's anthem, which I found quite beautiful. Particularly the live version in the Abbey with the Pipe Organ. ALW is a gifted composer. I totally agree 👌🏻✌🏻😍 |
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 7, 2023 10:15:25 GMT
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Post by londonpostie on May 7, 2023 13:46:26 GMT
With QEII now departed, I seem to have mostly, unconsciously, detached to the point that, in the photos I saw, it looked pretty deranged.
Poor Penny Mourdaunt (above) being a case in point. You can almost see her mouthing 'help'. Did I read something about a 1000 year-old spoon?
Anyway, I wondered how it could even be classed a royal event without Elton tinkling away somewhere before remembering an earlier event hereabouts, which reminded me of Queen Camilla playing the absolute mother of all long games.
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Post by max on May 7, 2023 18:00:31 GMT
Anyway, I wondered how it could even be classed a royal event without Elton tinkling away somewhere before remembering an earlier event hereabouts, which reminded me of Queen Camilla playing the absolute mother of all long games. "The absolute mother of all long games" indeed... |
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Post by karloscar on May 7, 2023 18:01:27 GMT
BBC radio has been playing a clip of some posh child telling us that the crowning of the King was a magical experience. How gullible do they think we are? We don't live in Harry Potter land, Chaz iii has neither supernatural, magic or God given powers. He's an ordinary, not particularly bright human who happened to be born into the right family. Not magic at all!
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Post by lynette on May 7, 2023 19:37:00 GMT
BBC radio has been playing a clip of some posh child telling us that the crowning of the King was a magical experience. How gullible do they think we are? We don't live in Harry Potter land, Chaz iii has neither supernatural, magic or God given powers. He's an ordinary, not particularly bright human who happened to be born into the right family. Not magic at all! I’m with you up to a point. The media are pretty crass. But ‘not particularly bright’ doesn’t really work now. He had a uni degree when degrees were not ten a penny, so in academic terms, ok and he foresaw the climate, environmental issues and was ahead of the game, a different kind of intelligence perhaps. He connects with people, maybe not you, but quite a few others. He sticks at stuff, his projects, yes, but beneficial on the whole. You might not like Poundbury but if he were allowed to build villages and towns we might not have this terrible housing crisis. He isn’t daft. Might be grumpy at times….. |
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Post by sph on May 7, 2023 19:42:37 GMT
BBC radio has been playing a clip of some posh child telling us that the crowning of the King was a magical experience. How gullible do they think we are? We don't live in Harry Potter land, Chaz iii has neither supernatural, magic or God given powers. He's an ordinary, not particularly bright human who happened to be born into the right family. Not magic at all! I think this summarises how I feel about the Royals too really. Yes, they may do this that and the other to form a part of the UK's identity on the world's stage, but nowadays does anyone believe that they are the sacred, God-chosen individuals that they were viewed as in the past? |
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Post by distantcousin on May 8, 2023 11:50:38 GMT
Can you source this view? These days, I'd say the actual majority are just indifferent, and unable to source an alternative could give much of an eff either way. Thats the overriding view within my echo chamber atleast. Every poll ever taken by a major polling organisation has put 'in favour of the Monarchy' far above the Republicans. The nadir of polling for the former was 55%, the zenith of the latter, 33%. The latest poll is: Keep the Monarchy - 62% Abolish - 25% Don't know - 12% I think it is easy to get wrapped up in echo chambers and think the pervading view within those groups is how the country thinks - 2016 and 2019 was definitely an eye opener for many - but that's why it's important, in my opinion, to broaden our social circles to include those with contrasting views and not to only follow people we agree with on Twitter and other social media.
As far as I'm concerned these surveys are meaningless. They just reflect how utterly manipulated most of the public are by the mainstream media.
It is well known the media and the British Royal Family are in this ghastly co-dependant, parasitical relationship. There is barely a mainstream news outlet taking a Republican stance. Barely even a critical one.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 8, 2023 12:09:21 GMT
Ithought there was something very fairytale-like about this photo taken from behind the two of them on the balcony looking out over the crowds. The ermine cloaks, the crowns looking unfeasibly tall, it is exactly what people unfamiliar with our monarchy think it’s all about. A friend was in London last week for business and as he was coming out of his hotel in Victoria an American couple asked him for directions to the palace. He told them where to go and as they walked ahead the woman said to guy “do you think there’s a chance we might see the King?”. I think they’re a huge pull for tourism and probably generate more revenue than they cost us.  |
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Post by distantcousin on May 8, 2023 12:20:41 GMT
Ithought there was something very fairytale-like about this photo taken from behind the two of them on the balcony looking out over the crowds. The ermine cloaks, the crowns looking unfeasibly tall, it is exactly what people unfamiliar with our monarchy think it’s all about. A friend was in London last week for business and as he was coming out of his hotel in Victoria an American couple asked him for directions to the palace. He told them where to go and as they walked ahead the woman said to guy “do you think there’s a chance we might see the King?”. I think they’re a huge pull for tourism and probably generate more revenue than they cost us.
The argument is though - do we really need all this expensive ceremonial stuff, and keeping them all in the lap of luxury? Tourists would still come to see the castles and the palaces. As they do in France!
It is a mainstream media narrative that is peddled and repeated so much that everyone believes it to be fact.
Legoland Windsor gets more visitors than any Royal building!
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Post by londonpostie on May 8, 2023 13:09:24 GMT
The country can afford what it chooses for a democracy model. Comparing cost-benefit analyses might miss the point of what is best for the people. Maybe something approaching the best -in the long run - is the most transparent, least corruptible option, even though it looks a little bizarre at times.
At least this lot don't make laws. Best they can offer a buyer is some influence or a shiny badge and title. Worst places to deposit symbolic powers in a democracy.
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Post by mkb on May 8, 2023 14:33:06 GMT
The country can afford what it chooses for a democracy model. Comparing cost-benefit analyses might miss the point of what is best for the people. Maybe something approaching the best -in the long run - is the most transparent, least corruptible option, even though it looks a little bizarre at times.
At least this lot don't make laws. Best they can offer a buyer is some influence or a shiny badge and title. Worst places to deposit symbolic powers in a democracy.
The monarch is the linchpin that holds the whole of the feudal establishment in place. Whether or not there is corruption at the top I've no idea, but the layers beneath are riddled with it. If you choose to have a head of state and you elect them, at least the people have the power not to re-elect corrupt, useless or otherwise bad ones. And, if the people still elect them in a fair election, well that's democracy in action. Many testimonies of people I don't regard as sucker-uppers say that Charles Windsor is a decent guy. He certainly comes across that way. I think I much prefer him to his mother. But it's not about him as a person; it's the office he holds, what it represents, and the utterly abhorrent idea that rights and privileges should be bestowed according to bloodline, and that we should all obsequiously respect that, doff our caps, and pray to god that the "gracious" monarch be saved from mortality. Our great grandchildren will look back in history with astonishment that grown adults indulged in such behaviour. |
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Post by londonpostie on May 8, 2023 15:37:17 GMT
In a Parliamentary-style democracy, I do prefer to make the distinction between real power and symbolic. They can wave around 1000 year-old spoons and dress in ermine all day long, but they know - as we all know - the minute they try to exercise undemocratic power it's over (it will pretty much be over with evidence of corruption). Last I'm aware a monarch tried to exercise power was Easter 1916 (which, for context, was before working class adults had a vote, so no democracy as we understand it anyway). Seem to have largely kept their noses clean and out the way since universal suffrage.
Sure, the UK can put up random two-bob politicians, celebrities, academics every five years as a HoS but, if you're only in the job for 5 years .. who are you going to choose, some washed up political no name or Elton John and David. Hardly matters, all they're going to do for 5 years is smile and shake hands. Parliament is sovereign, etc.
The House of Lords is the real game, here.
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Post by steve10086 on May 8, 2023 15:56:51 GMT
I’d much rather be stuck with a non-elected King, and for us all to be stuck with him, than be stuck with an elected $hit like Johnson, or stuck in a voted for situation like Brexit.
Democracy sucks when so many of your countrymen are brainless freaks!
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Post by bimse on May 8, 2023 16:02:34 GMT
The music is fantastic, and Pretty Yende singing wonderfully while wearing that huge yellow creation… fabulous. Pretty Yende was (as expected) magnificent, singing Sacred Fire by Sarah Class, with brilliant orchestrations , the highlight for me. |
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Post by distantcousin on May 8, 2023 16:41:27 GMT
The country can afford what it chooses for a democracy model. Comparing cost-benefit analyses might miss the point of what is best for the people. Maybe something approaching the best -in the long run - is the most transparent, least corruptible option, even though it looks a little bizarre at times.
At least this lot don't make laws. Best they can offer a buyer is some influence or a shiny badge and title. Worst places to deposit symbolic powers in a democracy.
The monarch is the linchpin that holds the whole of the feudal establishment in place. Whether or not there is corruption at the top I've no idea, but the layers beneath are riddled with it. If you choose to have a head of state and you elect them, at least the people have the power not to re-elect corrupt, useless or otherwise bad ones. And, if the people still elect them in a fair election, well that's democracy in action. Many testimonies of people I don't regard as sucker-uppers say that Charles Windsor is a decent guy. He certainly comes across that way. I think I much prefer him to his mother. But it's not about him as a person; it's the office he holds, what it represents, and the utterly abhorrent idea that rights and privileges should be bestowed according to bloodline, and that we should all obsequiously respect that, doff our caps, and pray to god that the "gracious" monarch be saved from mortality. Our great grandchildren will look back in history with astonishment that grown adults indulged in such behaviour.
This, this. THIS! We are talking more about the Establishment itself. Those high ranking civil servants (i.e. part of the Elite that REALLY run this country) that work to stop at nothing to ensure The Crown survives. It's no reflection on individual members of the Royal Family - they are indeed just the public face, and are to a great extent "stage managed" by those powerful figures behind the scenes.
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