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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 5:42:07 GMT
I wasn't being 100% serious when I said bring Idina back, Pointone! Oh, good. It's hard to read sarcasm over the internet Some people are actually serious about bringing her back so that's why I thought you might be too
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 5:51:10 GMT
Harry Styles was mooted for Fiyero.... Fiyeeeeeeeeero!
Wasn't he?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 5:51:15 GMT
I think it's safe to say that Kristin and Idina aren't going to be the film Glinda and Elphaba. When it was being suggested like 5 years ago it wouldn't have been realistic, let alone now. Is Katherine McPhee really a mainstream draw? I've only ever seen her in Smash where I personally think she was outsung by Megan Hilty every time, and had next to no personality. Is she really a 'name'? Maybe I just don't watch the right shows/films. Just thinking of casting this show frustrates me. On stage if the cast is less than stellar you can come back after cast change and try again. The movie has to get it totally right and I really don't know if they will. I'd rather see stage actresses for Elphaba and Glinda, and stunt casting for Fiyero / The Wizard/ Morrible if need be. Yeah she's not really a big name, but other than Lea Michele she's the only screen actress I can't think off that I think could pull off the singing part. She did do other movies and TV shows, but not really big ones. So I guess if they cast her, they could just as easily cast a theatre actress. I completely agree that stage actresses are the key to solving this "who can sing the role" problem. I think we do need a stage actress for Elphaba. I don't think it's necessary for Glinda as for that character the acting is the most important thing. I don't think her songs are that hard either for most female singers, apart from the few high soprano notes. And as you said, stunt casting the other characters could make up for casting an unknown as Elphaba. Joseph Gordon-Levitt is actually a pretty good singer. Madame Morrible doesn't have to be a good singer at all. The Wizard's songs aren't that hard either and Kevin Spacey is a good singer as well. I think he'd be perfect for The Wizard. Let's face it, Elphaba is the only one who has really hard songs. Maybe Glinda's high notes could be a challenge too, but I'm pretty sure they could find a star who would be good in this role.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 5:53:44 GMT
Harry Styles was mooted for Fiyero.... Fiyeeeeeeeeero! Wasn't he? There were rumours. But please no. Joseph Gordon-Levitt is famous enough and he's a pretty good singer. Good enough for Fiyero anyway.
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Post by danb on May 24, 2016 6:03:29 GMT
Not sure 'pretty good' will cut it. I actually think that Styles would make a great Fiyero. If Christopher Nolan is happy to cast him in an acting role I wouldn't think it's outside the realms of possibility, as that's the unknown quantity.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 6:05:26 GMT
Harry Styles was mooted for Fiyero.... Fiyeeeeeeeeero! Wasn't he? There were rumours. But please no. Joseph Gordon-Levitt is famous enough and he's a pretty good singer. Good enough for Fiyero anyway. Good grief no. Not cute, and pulls a funny face in order to reach very reachable notes. EJECT!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 6:11:46 GMT
Of course you know who they could cast as Fiyero (Fiyeeeeeero!) and guarantee a huge hit financially? Just not sure if he can act.... But who knows? *cough*JustinBieber*cough*
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 6:12:37 GMT
And Taylor Swift for Glinda, obviously.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 6:13:48 GMT
Not sure 'pretty good' will cut it. I actually think that Styles would make a great Fiyero. If Christopher Nolan is happy to cast him in an acting role I wouldn't think it's outside the realms of possibility, as that's the unknown quantity. Pretty good will cut it for Fiyero It's not like Harry Styles is an amazing singer either.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 6:14:23 GMT
(I'm always at my most imaginative, casting-wise before brekkie)
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 6:14:28 GMT
Of course you know who they could cast as Fiyero (Fiyeeeeeero!) and guarantee a huge hit financially? Just not sure if he can act.... But who knows? *cough*JustinBieber*cough* That would literally mean I wouldn't go see the movie
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 6:20:03 GMT
Thoughts on Kristen Bell as Glinda? Not sure if she can hit the high notes in No one mourns the wicked, but other than that she's a great singer and she would act it really well
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 6:23:03 GMT
Thoughts on Kristen Bell as Glinda? Not sure if she can hit the high notes in No one mourns the wicked, but other than that she's a great singer and she would act it really well Amanda Seyfried can hit the high notes. She nearly punctured my eardrums in Les Mis. I have to to put earmuffs on the dog when I watch the movie. (That's a lie I don't have a dog)
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 6:34:00 GMT
Thoughts on Kristen Bell as Glinda? Not sure if she can hit the high notes in No one mourns the wicked, but other than that she's a great singer and she would act it really well Amanda Seyfried can hit the high notes. She nearly punctured my eardrums in Les Mis. I have to to put earmuffs on the dog when I watch the movie. (That's a lie I don't have a dog) Haha true. But I think Kristen Bell would be great
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Post by ptwest on May 24, 2016 8:34:35 GMT
I get the feeling that this is one of those occasions where the casting is going to be slated whoever gets it given then long debates about how performer X riffs on one particular note or pronounces one particular word... And then we will all go and watch the film anyway!
With the wonders of post production and / or miming to a different singer, anyone can be made to sound good. Unless of course you are Pierce Brosnan.
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Post by ShoesForRent on May 24, 2016 8:46:22 GMT
Lea Michele can't act though BB... She does one charachter really well- Lea Michelle... I still can't see Katharine roaring the flying part or NGD... but it is film not theatre- different beast. I was sure Samantha Barks would have been brought up by now. I'm not the biggest fan, but she definitely the best singer in the LM film
I think with right use of cgi, Idina can pull it off- girl looks so good.. But I have such a huge soft spot for Idina maybe I'm biased
And Kristen Bell is such a sweety and bubbly and fun and her soprano is gorgeous. I wouldn't call glinda's an easy singing role though
Ptwest os right though, I'll literally see it no mater who's cast (even Beiber)
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 8:57:18 GMT
Lea Michele can't act though BB... She does one charachter really well- Lea Michelle... Get the green make up on and no-one will care about that. Just watch her fly, we all know she can dooooo it!
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Post by ShoesForRent on May 24, 2016 9:00:48 GMT
Don't rain on her parade! (She might melt)
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 9:03:23 GMT
Maybe Sheridan will audition after she "moves to America"
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Post by theatre-turtle on May 24, 2016 10:09:13 GMT
Maybe Sheridan will audition after she "moves to America" I dread to imagine her version of defying gravity
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 11:39:44 GMT
I get the feeling that this is one of those occasions where the casting is going to be slated whoever gets it given then long debates about how performer X riffs on one particular note or pronounces one particular word... And then we will all go and watch the film anyway! With the wonders of post production and / or miming to a different singer, anyone can be made to sound good. Unless of course you are Pierce Brosnan. If anyone can be made to soun good, then why didn't they do this for the Les Mis movie? But you're right, whoever gets cast, people will be debating about it. But I think the Phantom and Les Mis movies were big fiascos when it came to casting. I just wish that for once they'd cast the leads based solely on skill. They can cast stars for all the supporting roles for all I care, but Elphaba has to be an amazing singer. I hope that for this movie they just use the old method again and record the singing in advance. As well as it works in the theatre, it doesn't seem to work for movies. Singing skills aside, there was something not right about the sound of the singing in the Les Mis movie.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 11:47:01 GMT
Lea Michele can't act though BB... She does one charachter really well- Lea Michelle... I still can't see Katharine roaring the flying part or NGD... but it is film not theatre- different beast. I was sure Samantha Barks would have been brought up by now. I'm not the biggest fan, but she definitely the best singer in the LM film I think with right use of cgi, Idina can pull it off- girl looks so good.. But I have such a huge soft spot for Idina maybe I'm biased And Kristen Bell is such a sweety and bubbly and fun and her soprano is gorgeous. I wouldn't call glinda's an easy singing role though Ptwest os right though, I'll literally see it no mater who's cast (even Beiber) I think Katharine has potential, but you're right it remains to be seen if she can hit and sustain all the notes. It was just a thought. I think that when it comes to screen actresses, there are few who I think would be able to sing the role well. Idina as Elphaba in the movie is literally worst case scenario for me. I'd rather have Bieber or Harry Styles as Fiyero than Idina as Elphaba. But that's just my opinion. I never meant to say Glinda is an easy singing role, but compared to Elphaba I think it's very doable for many singers. For example popular is mostly about the acting. It still takes a good singer but it doesn't have all those crazy belted notes. I think Kristen Bell would be perfect for Glinda.
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Post by ShoesForRent on May 24, 2016 11:49:07 GMT
Regarding the les mis film, I think Tom Hopper was aiming for hyper realism, and misrable, in hyper realism does not equal perfectly trained voices.. Ann hathaway said some (contraversial) stuff regarding the subject of the non perfect singing in an interview but I cant remmember exactly what she said. I fear they might aim for something similar with Wicked, and follow the train thought that great singing (that has a "musical theatre sound") is not relatable and doesn't sell. I hope they don't though
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 11:56:26 GMT
Regarding the les mis film, I think Tom Hopper was aiming for hyper realism, and misrable, in hyper realism does not equal perfectly trained voices.. Ann hathaway said some (contraversial) stuff regarding the subject of the non perfect singing in an interview but I cant remmember exactly what she said. I fear they might aim for something similar with Wicked, and follow the train thought that great singing (that has a "musical theatre sound") is not relatable and doesn't sell. I hope they don't though Ugh, typical Hollywood logic. Musical theatre is about amazing singing. Musical theatre actors learn how to act through song. Hollywood actors seem to only be able to act by talking rhythmically instead of singing. I get that in some scenes and songs it creates a nice effect. To some extent I liked the fact that she did that in I dreamed a dream, but she did it for the entire song, and the other actors did it as well. Most of the solos where ruined because of that. What have I done, I dreamed a dream, Empty chairs and empty tables were all ruined because of the fact that half the time they were just saying the words instead of singing. The only ones that reallyt sung their solos were Sam Barks and Russell Crowe. That's the one good thing that Russell Crowe did. His singing wasn't great, but at least he sang his songs. So I hope that for Wicked they'll just do it the old fashioned way and make a legit recording in a studio before filming it.
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Post by welsh_tenor on May 24, 2016 15:39:52 GMT
Do we know whether this will be a "live" recording such as the Les Mis film or dubbed in production like say Chicago was?
It absolutely shouldn't make a difference to casting, but if it's the latter you could see them going for a named/star actress who could be helped in post-production rather than needing a belter who could do it live?!
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