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Post by aspieandy on Nov 9, 2024 23:41:47 GMT
It's had a WE run. This is as much a 'run' as it is a revival, which is to say it doesn't fit into either box. It is what it is: 20-ish performances to get back up to speed after an 18-month break, and presumably to be filmed: the first is an artistic decision (probably collective), the second a further revenue stream.
Unlikely, but perhaps they're even going to have a bit of a tinker with the original production. Fwiw, I imagine a diverse range of prices and ticket release strategies, perhaps not unlike what we've seen with Macbeth.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 9, 2024 23:55:03 GMT
It shouldn’t be a warm up for Broadway or off, as this production is funded by the British Tax Payer via grant to the Almeida, same for Tammy Faye. It doesn’t sit well that the tax payer funded this (absolutely no problem with that) but the run is so limited that dynamic prices will be very high (problem) same with Tammy Faye, to have a chance of seeing this at the original venue, membership was the only viable way of guaranteeing a ticket. I really don’t see the problem. It’s giving another opportunity for people to see it. And people to be employed for 3 weeks here. What’s the issue?
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Post by zephyrus on Nov 10, 2024 0:04:07 GMT
It shouldn’t be a warm up for Broadway or off, as this production is funded by the British Tax Payer via grant to the Almeida, same for Tammy Faye. It doesn’t sit well that the tax payer funded this (absolutely no problem with that) but the run is so limited that dynamic prices will be very high (problem) same with Tammy Faye, to have a chance of seeing this at the original venue, membership was the only viable way of guaranteeing a ticket. I managed to get tickets to see Streetcar at the Almeida, on 2 different dates, without having any sort of membership. Also: presumably any sort of financial contribution made by the tax payer was to fund a run at the Almeida. I would assume that whatever the theatre does with a production after its initial run is a commercial decision - it's "show BUSINESS" after all. I'm no fan of expensive tickets, or dynamic prices, but I appreciate that this is, unfortunately, the world we live in. Where do we draw a line? Do we, the "British Tax Payers" have any claim on profits made by Stephen Daldry's production of An Inspector Calls which originated at the National Theatre? Should we get a rebate because the Almeida's production of, say, The Comeuppance, didn't have a life beyond its run in N1....?
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Post by aspieandy on Nov 10, 2024 0:06:03 GMT
How much is the Vat on 16,000 tickets and income tax/NI on the actors/crew ..
Let's call it £45 a pop on average. £45 x 16,000 = £720,000
20% Vat = £144,000.
Income tax/NI on the actors/crew, theatre staff = £frightening
Potential income from streaming = £don't care
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Nov 10, 2024 0:08:43 GMT
It shouldn’t be a warm up for Broadway or off, as this production is funded by the British Tax Payer via grant to the Almeida, same for Tammy Faye. It doesn’t sit well that the tax payer funded this (absolutely no problem with that) but the run is so limited that dynamic prices will be very high (problem) same with Tammy Faye, to have a chance of seeing this at the original venue, membership was the only viable way of guaranteeing a ticket. Do you have a source for it being funded by the tax payer? Considering the state of gov arts funding this seems really unlikely to me?
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Nov 10, 2024 0:10:29 GMT
Let's see the prices before we jump down their throat lol Might even have a ticket lottery again! At the very least, they might be able to record it for NT at home Yes I’ve heard the 3 week run is to get it filmed, cheaper to do that in the UK than Broadway I believe?
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Post by Jon on Nov 10, 2024 1:54:16 GMT
It shouldn’t be a warm up for Broadway or off, as this production is funded by the British Tax Payer via grant to the Almeida, same for Tammy Faye. It doesn’t sit well that the tax payer funded this (absolutely no problem with that) but the run is so limited that dynamic prices will be very high (problem) same with Tammy Faye, to have a chance of seeing this at the original venue, membership was the only viable way of guaranteeing a ticket. I managed to get tickets to see Streetcar at the Almeida, on 2 different dates, without having any sort of membership. Also: presumably any sort of financial contribution made by the tax payer was to fund a run at the Almeida. I would assume that whatever the theatre does with a production after its initial run is a commercial decision - it's "show BUSINESS" after all. I'm no fan of expensive tickets, or dynamic prices, but I appreciate that this is, unfortunately, the world we live in. Where do we draw a line? Do we, the "British Tax Payers" have any claim on profits made by Stephen Daldry's production of An Inspector Calls which originated at the National Theatre? Should we get a rebate because the Almeida's production of, say, The Comeuppance, didn't have a life beyond its run in N1....? ACE funding for the Almeida is only 25% of their annual budget as well.
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Post by notsotheatrical on Nov 10, 2024 11:07:41 GMT
God it was so appallingly bad Probably the worst streetcar I have seen Do you Like Anything? Or is your standards not of this planet.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Nov 10, 2024 11:21:18 GMT
does delfont do dynamic pricing? imagine the headlines if so...
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Post by SilverFox on Nov 10, 2024 11:37:59 GMT
How much is the Vat on 16,000 tickets and income tax/NI on the actors/crew ..
Let's call it £45 a pop on average. £45 x 16,000 = £720,000
20% Vat = £144,000.
Income tax/NI on the actors/crew, theatre staff = £frightening
Potential income from streaming = £don't care
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I assume that the Almeida get a financial gain from their production in subsequent venues? This used to be the case in the past - and going from the promotion for the Phoenix run on the Almeida website, would seem to have been the case here:- The artwork on the posters also prominently state Almeida West End. Any increase in income for the theatre is to be welcomed, and will ultimately benefit the tax-payer over and above the initial grant (whether to the theatre or an individual production). Especially given the decline in subsidies over the past decade or so.
I cannot find details yet of the Noel Coward run, but the BAM run has all the creatives from the Islington venue listed.
I hope the filming is for a cinema release .....
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Post by nash16 on Nov 10, 2024 12:30:41 GMT
How much is the Vat on 16,000 tickets and income tax/NI on the actors/crew ..
Let's call it £45 a pop on average. £45 x 16,000 = £720,000
20% Vat = £144,000.
Income tax/NI on the actors/crew, theatre staff = £frightening
Potential income from streaming = £don't care
Quote above used to enable links on this board - this is not a direct response to the quote.
I assume that the Almeida get a financial gain from their production in subsequent venues? This used to be the case in the past - and going from the promotion for the Phoenix run on the Almeida website, would seem to have been the case here:- The artwork on the posters also prominently state Almeida West End. Any increase in income for the theatre is to be welcomed, and will ultimately benefit the tax-payer over and above the initial grant (whether to the theatre or an individual production). Especially given the decline in subsidies over the past decade or so.
I cannot find details yet of the Noel Coward run, but the BAM run has all the creatives from the Islington venue listed.
I hope the filming is for a cinema release .....
The filming will definitely be for cinemas. The Almeida needs the money, and Mescal will want his Stanley in formaldehyde.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Nov 10, 2024 15:20:39 GMT
'The Almeida needs the money'
Oh?
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Post by andbingowashisname on Nov 10, 2024 17:26:48 GMT
The filming will definitely be for cinemas. The Almeida needs the money, and Mescal will want his Stanley in formaldehyde. Perhaps there is conflicting information, or maybe posters are enjoying throwing out some punchy conjecture, but as far as I know there are no plans to film the production.
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Post by dillan on Nov 10, 2024 20:04:34 GMT
This was the last thing I was expecting to return.. with Paul and so soon. I would love to see it again but the prices are going to be insane.
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Post by parsley1 on Nov 11, 2024 2:26:19 GMT
God it was so appallingly bad Probably the worst streetcar I have seen Do you Like Anything? Or is your standards not of this planet. Yes I like some things Those things do NOT include Things directed by Rebecca Frecknell I think she is not good at her job
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Post by notsotheatrical on Nov 11, 2024 7:40:51 GMT
Do you Like Anything? Or is your standards not of this planet. Yes I like some things Those things do NOT include Things directed by Rebecca Frecknell I think she is not good at her job Ah Yes Rebecca Frecknall must be terrible at her job Considering Streetcar Sold Out 2 runs already Won Best Revival And Cabaret has infamously played to Empty Audiences for the last 4 Years. Whatever you say Dearie.....
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Post by jake on Nov 11, 2024 8:42:18 GMT
Yes I like some things Those things do NOT include Things directed by Rebecca Frecknell I think she is not good at her job Ah Yes Rebecca Frecknall must be terrible at her job Considering Streetcar Sold Out 2 runs already Won Best Revival And Cabaret has infamously played to Empty Audiences for the last 4 Years. Whatever you say Dearie..... Well, citing popularity and/or commercial success doesn't invalidate an opinion based on perceived quality and/or competence. It could be argued that the more popular/successful an artist is, the more valuable are contrary opinions. Not that I agree with parsley1 re Frecknall. I loved Summer and Smoke and Three Sisters was interesting. I found her Streetcar ok but had expected more after S&S had suggested she would handle Williams particularly well; frankly. it was a bit of a disappointment compared with, say, the Weiss, Cowan, Wilson (dir Rob Ashford) effort at the Donmar a while back.
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Post by parsley1 on Nov 11, 2024 8:49:29 GMT
Yes I like some things Those things do NOT include Things directed by Rebecca Frecknell I think she is not good at her job Ah Yes Rebecca Frecknall must be terrible at her job Considering Streetcar Sold Out 2 runs already Won Best Revival And Cabaret has infamously played to Empty Audiences for the last 4 Years. Whatever you say Dearie..... On the same principle That Donald Trump is excellent as he has been elected back into power And McDonalds and Primark are excellent because lots of people go there And Marvel films are the epitome of intellect Yes excellent logic you use Were it not for her use of stunt casting no one would care about her as a director Let’s see if she has the confidence to direct a new play with an unknown cast People see her shows for the actors certainly not for her contribution
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 11, 2024 13:12:04 GMT
She certainly helps herself hugely by casting star names , selling her shows out before opening and creating a buzz regardless of whether the show is good or not.
I liked Streetcar… loved Summer and Smoke… but found Cabaret to be like watching a student production. Not sure how she got away with that one actually.
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Post by Jon on Nov 11, 2024 13:17:25 GMT
She certainly helps herself hugely by casting star names , selling her shows out before opening and creating a buzz regardless of whether the show is good or not. I liked Streetcar… loved Summer and Smoke… but found Cabaret to be like watching a student production. Not sure how she got away with that one actually. Sounds like Jamie Lloyd syndrome but with more sets and costumes!
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Post by ctas on Nov 11, 2024 16:43:29 GMT
Any word on when tickets will go on sale for this?
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Post by A.Ham on Nov 11, 2024 17:03:31 GMT
Just confirmed by the production and DMT on Twitter. Priority tickets from 2pm Thursday - sign up here - streetcarwestend.com/On sale times are: 10am DMT+ members 12 noon ATG+ and Almeida supporters 2pm website sign ups 10am Friday - general public onsale And Paul, Patsy and Anjana are returning.
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Post by Jon on Nov 11, 2024 17:06:16 GMT
It's interesting that it's playing at BAM rather than Broadway.
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Post by dip on Nov 11, 2024 17:26:03 GMT
Is it going to be worth getting DMT+ or ATG+ for this one, do we reckon?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 11, 2024 17:30:40 GMT
Is it going to be worth getting DMT+ or ATG+ for this one, do we reckon? yup
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