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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jun 13, 2022 17:36:28 GMT
I’ll certainly be seeing all the plays by new-ish writers, but not the ones who I know got their commissions via being mates with the right person or so productions I was involved in discussions over and don’t feel were handled ethically.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want a theatre to stage an actual play, especially a theatre that does pretty much nothing but plays. To rush this out in such a way as a response to an antisemitism scandal, just feels cheap and not meaningful.
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Post by Jan on Jun 13, 2022 17:50:45 GMT
They have commissioned a Jewish writer, and one over 30. He's not a playwright though is he ? Looks like the first thing he's ever written for the theatre.
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Post by bordeaux on Jun 13, 2022 17:55:28 GMT
Hold on... this is what we're supposed to want isn't it? This is what the RC is "supposed" to be programming. Surely we will all be supporting this new season and proving that there is demand and financial viability in commissioning new writers? Or are we back to wanting only established names? Confused. Perhaps I'm getting old but I do like a couple of familiar names in with the new ones.
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Post by wiggymess on Jun 13, 2022 21:32:45 GMT
Hold on... this is what we're supposed to want isn't it? This is what the RC is "supposed" to be programming. Surely we will all be supporting this new season and proving that there is demand and financial viability in commissioning new writers? Or are we back to wanting only established names? Confused. Perhaps I'm getting old but I do like a couple of familiar names in with the new ones. Sure, appreciate sarcasm doesn't travel work on the internet, I agree with you. It was more aimed at the fact that there are contradictions between this and the other thread about dave d.
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Post by wiggymess on Jun 13, 2022 21:33:44 GMT
They have commissioned a Jewish writer, and one over 30. He's not a playwright though is he ? Looks like the first thing he's ever written for the theatre. Which is exactly what the RC was being criticised for not doing in the other thread.
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Post by Marwood on Jun 13, 2022 21:46:23 GMT
Jews. In Their Own Words sounds like a spin on David Baddiels Jews Don’t Count and having read that I’m not sure I want to see something similar at the RC: otherwise I have no interest in the other stuff, they all just sound dull and worthy. Good Lord it’s been so long since they put on anything to get actually excited about.
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Post by Jan on Jun 14, 2022 6:21:38 GMT
He's not a playwright though is he ? Looks like the first thing he's ever written for the theatre. Which is exactly what the RC was being criticised for not doing in the other thread. Not really. This isn't giving a new struggling playwright a big break. This guy is part of the establishment charmed circle. White, male, middle-aged, private school, Oxbridge, wealthy, entitled, Guardian journalist. It is interesting but not surprising that he even thinks he'd be capable of writing a play for the Royal Court with no training or experience but people with backgrounds like him have the unshakeable self-confidence that they can do any job at all even if they can't. Swap "Telegraph" for "Guardian" and you've got Boris Johnson. I mean fair play to him but the Royal Court posing as some sort of anti-establishment subversive organisation giving outsiders a voice is a joke - they're part of it.
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Post by Dave B on Jun 16, 2022 10:58:43 GMT
I have a RC membership, so quite happy to book £12 Monday tickets for Word-Play, Baghdaddy and Black Superhero. I will do the same for Graceland when it goes on sale.
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Post by ncbears on Jun 16, 2022 13:53:53 GMT
Seems no one is pleased by the announced Freedland play.
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Post by Jan on Jun 16, 2022 14:09:20 GMT
Royal Court being accused of “anti-Left” propaganda. Ha ha. That must hurt. Of course all London subsidised theatres are left-wing but the Court does look a tad Blairite.
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Post by alessia on Jun 17, 2022 12:51:24 GMT
I've just become a member as I am hoping and waiting for another Jerusalem and this one is probably the best bet in terms of prices I can afford and how easy it is to get there. Seems like things I loved started their life here (not only Jerusalem but also Death of England) so fingers crossed for another masterpiece soon. Also, the £12 Monday offer is amazing. I've booked for all the things currently on offer. I don't know Martin Crimp's work so well but he adapted Cyrano de Bergerac which is one of the best things I've ever seen so I want to see more of his stuff.
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Post by Jan on Jun 17, 2022 15:27:37 GMT
I've just become a member as I am hoping and waiting for another Jerusalem and this one is probably the best bet in terms of prices I can afford and how easy it is to get there. Seems like things I loved started their life here (not only Jerusalem but also Death of England) so fingers crossed for another masterpiece soon. Also, the £12 Monday offer is amazing. I've booked for all the things currently on offer. I don't know Martin Crimp's work so well but he adapted Cyrano de Bergerac which is one of the best things I've ever seen so I want to see more of his stuff. Martin Crimp’s adaptation of The False Servant is currently on at the Orange Tree.
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Post by alessia on Jun 17, 2022 15:59:20 GMT
Thanks. I ended up reading the Guardian review of that play and also the one for the 2004 original production, funny to see that the article gives the NT box office number for tickets, not the website! so long ago it was. Don't know if I'll manage to see this one, I've got too much on but thanks for pointing it out to me.
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Post by Dave B on Sept 23, 2022 11:08:23 GMT
Word-play postponed, email just out from RC.
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Post by foxa on Sept 23, 2022 22:02:16 GMT
Gosh - Word-Play was meant to have its first night on the 29th - so fairly late in the day.
There are also statements from Featherstone, the writer and director on the website. It sounds like the director is remaining attached to the play,so some other element has gone wrong? Must be gutting. The shows in the downstairs space don't seem to be selling well, so this will be another blow.
Word-Play postponement
After conversations with the writer, director, cast and creative team yesterday and today, we have taken the difficult decision to postpone the production of Word-Play for the moment.
In taking this decision, our priority is, as ever, the wellbeing of the company and creative team.
The Royal Court remains committed to Rabiah’s play and will be including Word-Play in future programming – we are currently in active discussions about when that will be.
From Vicky Featherstone, Artistic Director at the Royal Court:
“It is very necessary for the public to see this important and brilliant play. The subject Rabiah is exploring in the play, and Nimmo in its production, means that Word-Play, like all the most significant Royal Court plays, will still be as vital as ever when we are able to welcome it back.”
From the creative team:
“I’m so proud of this play. Its message. Its scope. And the power it holds. But sometimes, it’s difficult for all the different aspects of theatre to come together. When the time is right, and when all these aspects align, we will share Word-Play with the world. Watch this space!” Rabiah Hussain, writer of Word-Play
“Word-Play is a profound articulation of the British Muslim experience. I look forward to creating the production that the play deserves in the near future.” Nimmo Ismail, director of Word-Play
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Post by annette on Sept 24, 2022 4:17:06 GMT
I’ll certainly be seeing all the plays by new-ish writers, but not the ones who I know got their commissions via being mates with the right person or so productions I was involved in discussions over and don’t feel were handled ethically. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want a theatre to stage an actual play, especially a theatre that does pretty much nothing but plays. To rush this out in such a way as a response to an antisemitism scandal, just feels cheap and not meaningful. I've just come home from seeing 'Jews.In Their Own Words'. I was very excited when I heard about this show and imagined using verbatim in the script would bring forth some good humorous material as well as serious thought. I couldn't have been more wrong. Any attempt at humour fell flat, particularly a song where I think the writer might have imagined he was writing something in the vein of 'The Book of Mormon' or something akin to Tom Lehrer's masterpieces. It was excruciatingly unfunny and some of the actors looked as if they knew that. The direction was all over the place, as was what I presume to be the script work of Jonathan Freedland. Sometimes we were in verbatim mode( which didn't suit the actors playing multiple roles and became very confusing), other times in narration mode and occasionally in a buttock-clenching dumbshow history lesson. For some completely unknown reason, a massive papier-machie headed Shylock type character walked across the back of the stage and then walked off again for no perceptible reason whatsoever. It looked woefully unrehearsed with amateurish production values utilising the cast to drag around chairs and large flats for projection (quite a few times the flats were in the wrong place so you could only read half the projection). Think GCSE drama production standard. Aside from one segment about Luciana Berger which was excellently performed, the rest of it was like being in a repetitive echo chamber of all the reasons that Jewish people have suffered in one way or another over the centuries. I imagine in the main this show will be preaching to the converted (I'm one of them) who don't need to be reminded about their past history and I'm not sure quite how it would be possible to bring in much of a non-Jewish audience given the title for a start off. I have no idea what the point of this enterprise was, apart from The Royal Court attempting to rid themselves in the cheapest, most tick box fashion of the anti-semitic behaviour they have recently been accused of. At the end of the play, having completely ditched a framing device used at the beginning, one of the actors was talking about how he felt after chronicling all the pain the Jewish people faced and still face in part today. 'I just feel very tired' he said and if I'd known we were so close to the end of the play, I would have clapped back loudly with 'You're tired? How do you think we feel?". It was an endurance test to get through this show with no finesse or anything enlightening to say about how we move forward to attempt to bring about change or hope to eradicate the age-old tropes that still get used to describe the Jewish character. There's still a great play to be written on this subject, with a modern take, but this definitely wasn't it. Sadly, this was just a squandered opportunity and it's hard to imagine how something so badly in need of a re-think is deemed by the powers-that-be at TRC as being good enough to stage in its current state (unless they're not particularly bothered of course).
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Post by cavocado on Sept 24, 2022 10:33:23 GMT
Oh dear. I've been holding off booking Jews in Their Own Words. I kind of liked the idea of it, but wasn't convinced Jonathan Freedland was the person to write it - as with The Snail House, success and talent in a related area doesn't always mean someone will be able to write a decent play.
The play I was most looking forward to at the RC this season was Word-Play. I hope we'll see it at some point and aren't meant to have read anything between the lines of the official statements, esp the bit about the wellbeing of the company (thinking of Zoe Cooper's The Flock, which was 'postponed' at Chichester halfway through rehearsals, and seems to have been quietly shelved).
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Post by foxa on Sept 24, 2022 11:34:51 GMT
Really interested to read this review annette. I didn't book for this because a) it didn't sound great to me - perhaps wrongly, I felt it was commissioned as a reaction to other Royal Court missteps rather than because they had a great theatrical idea and b) I thought there would be a lot of ticket deals available - it's a big theatre to fill and am not sure how enticing it is going to be to a wider audience. Repeated examples of bigotry without a great story or some hope or vision, etc. are, exhausting, and don't, I think accomplish much in a theatrical setting. I wonder why it appears so under-rehearsed?
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 24, 2022 12:06:44 GMT
The way they’ve treated Jewish playwrights and other Jewish artists over the past six months has been appalling. They clearly think they’ve ticked off “do anti antisemitism” now and don’t ever need to think about Jews ever again.
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Post by annette on Sept 24, 2022 13:20:39 GMT
Really interested to read this review annette . I didn't book for this because a) it didn't sound great to me - perhaps wrongly, I felt it was commissioned as a reaction to other Royal Court missteps rather than because they had a great theatrical idea and b) I thought there would be a lot of ticket deals available - it's a big theatre to fill and am not sure how enticing it is going to be to a wider audience. Repeated examples of bigotry without a great story or some hope or vision, etc. are, exhausting, and don't, I think accomplish much in a theatrical setting. I wonder why it appears so under-rehearsed? You’re absolutely right about the need for a great story/hope/vision, especially if there is a genuine desire to bring in an audience other than just Jewish people. I guess a great example of how to do this is A Strange Loop which I recently saw on Broadway. I’m not a young gay black man struggling to be a writer, but that show spoke to many on so many, profound and personal levels. It also gave me plenty of food for thought about the plight of the central character, whilst being thoroughly entertaining, funny and very moving. It rightfully won a clutch of awards including a Pulitzer Prize and Tonys. It was really innovative and managed to make a lot of serious points with the lightest of touch. Although that show is very much it’s own thing and not a template for other work, I’d love to see something fresh, clever and really engaging about modern Judaism and had high hopes for the Royal Court production when I first heard about it. Basically, being talked AT for nearly two hours with a muddle of not terribly engaging ( for the most part) verbatim work and some other poor theatrical devices thrown in ad hoc is neither engaging or entertaining. It’ll be interesting to see what the critics make of it. I wouldn’t like to be in their shoes having to navigate around a production of this nature.
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Post by Steve on Sept 24, 2022 18:27:11 GMT
I suspect that the experience of this play varies depending on how much you know about antisemitism. For those Royal Court bookers who don't know much, but just book everything, this could be especially eye-opening, gutwrenching and memorable. But for those, like Annette, who know a great deal about it, and who are seeking solutions, not so much. In any event, this is very good on what antisemitism is generally, and Luciana Berger's testimony, about her experiences in the Labour Party, are heartbreaking and illuminating. Some spoilers follow. . . There are actually two framing devices here, both of which are interesting, and neither of which pay off properly:- In one, Alex Waldman plays Hershel Fink, the racist caricature in the original version of "Rare Mettle Earth," wondering how he was created, in a setpiece that reminded me of Terry Gilliam's Monty Python work. There's no end of interest and amusement in having a fictional character become self-aware, especially one as controversial as this, but Freedland just forgets about him, not knowing what to do with his own creation. In the other framing device, Freedland brilliantly starts by segmenting his twelve testimonies into topics, with the first being "Money," the second "blood-libel," etc, thus giving shape and direction to what might otherwise be twelve unwieldy meandering testimonies. But at some point, he quits, Luciana Berger takes over and devastates us with her personal take on her horror show experiences in the Labour Party (Louise Clein's Berger is pitch perfect in her sentiment and focus, backed up by Debbie Chazen's convincing and succinct Margaret Hodge), and then the show limps on, with testimonies about the backgrounds and hopes and dreams of the other characters, seemingly unshaped by Freedland's initial attempt to segment the testimonies into a controlled direction. So what starts off focused reaches a fever pitch, then drifts apart instead of building to a climax. There are controversial moments, such as the accusation that Caryl Churchill's "Seven Jewish Children" is antisemitic, which Dominic Cooke has already joined in defending against in yesterday's Guardian. For example, it is said, "why isn't it called "Seven Israeli Children?"" Why tar all Jews with the brush of caring only about their own children and not the children of Palestinians? But I recall that in that play at least two of the children are not Israeli, as they are set in the time of the Holocaust, so in fact, "Seven Israeli Children" couldn't possibly be the title of the play. On the other hand, I think the overall focus on left wing bigotry (specifically among some Corbynites) rather than right wing bigotry (Berger testifies that she expected to find bigots on the right, but not her left wing family, which is what crushed her) is warranted, as that critique might be harder for a typical Royal Court audience to listen to, which might stimulate thinking, which is one purpose of good art. For me, one of the most effective testimonies was that of the taxi driver, not at all well off, but stereotyped by tropes as controlling the world. Steve Furst is an amazing actor, and immensely likeable, and his ability to render the taxi driver and his other character, Howard Jacobson, in distinctive, convincing accents means that you always know which character is speaking through him. This is an interesting, controversial and messy evening, and has a lot worthwhile to say. Part of the reaction to it will inevitability be political whataboutism (as in, yeah, there are racist left-wingers, but there are more racist right wingers), but whataboutism doesn't erase or cure the horrific damage described in this play, and if one member of the audience checks themself after hearing these testimonies, then surely the play is worth it. 3 and a half stars from me.
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Post by annette on Sept 24, 2022 19:57:42 GMT
Very interesting to hear your thoughts Steve.
I totally agree with you about Steve Furst (I actually felt quite sorry for him being stuck in what my opinion was such a wasted opportunity. I do agree with some of the other observations you've made about the structure of the piece (or lack of it).
The thing is for me, after being presented with the laundry list of crimes against the Jewish people, it offered up nothing else at all. Where was the celebration of Judaism (in whatever form)? Or what it means to be Jewish in 2022, aside from the problems of anti-Semitism? Or why many of us (me included) are completely irreligious in a mixed marriage, but still have a great love of Jewish culture and some traditions? There was absolutely no light and shade in the show at all, for me.
Also the clipping on of the big, gold noses to denote the Jewish fiend in the dumb show gave a whole new meaning to the word 'on the nose'.
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Post by Mark on Mar 20, 2023 13:05:59 GMT
Another new batch of plays announced!
NO I.D. by Tatenda Shamiso Hope has a Happy Meal by Tom Fowler Cuckoo by Michael Wynne Word-Play by Rabiah Hussain Dana H. by Lucas Hnath
Very glad we will get Dana H. with Deidre O’Connell reprising her Tony Award winning performance!
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Post by zahidf on Mar 20, 2023 13:14:41 GMT
Glad they were right about Word-Play being back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 13:23:41 GMT
Dana H. is excellent.
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