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Post by Alejo on Jul 20, 2023 8:53:09 GMT
Todaytix advertising stalls tickets for £15 now Thanks very much for the heads up. I wanted to see this out of curiosity/love of the score, but wasn't prepared to pay full price. So managed to get a centre row B stalls ticket for £35 for next Friday. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 20, 2023 9:23:43 GMT
Todaytix advertising stalls tickets for £15 now Thanks for that. I had a £10 voucher to use up, a fiver for this show seems reasonable |
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Post by barrowside on Jul 20, 2023 15:18:40 GMT
I enjoyed this rather more than I expected to. The score is still ravishing even though the source material and characters aren't worthy of it. Acting-wise the ladies are in a different league to the two gentlemen but everyone sings gloriously. If Laura Pitt-Pulford can do this with this material can you imagine what she will do with Desirée or Rose. It looked gorgeous too apart from the projections - why on earth didn't they use John Macfarlane's drawings instead of the awful stock images? I'd not been to the Lyric before and thought it was lovely (especially those Art Deco foyers) and the lovely staff treated everyone like a VIP.
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Post by anthony on Jul 21, 2023 14:13:49 GMT
Does anyone know Bogyo's off days? Looking to book one last time and want to go on a Monday. Would like to see the u/s.
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Post by BVM on Jul 21, 2023 15:11:56 GMT
Does anyone know Bogyo's off days? Looking to book one last time and want to go on a Monday. Would like to see the u/s. I don’t think he has any! |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 21, 2023 18:45:07 GMT
Well he sure misses a lot of shows..
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Post by 141920grm on Jul 22, 2023 9:44:08 GMT
Well he sure misses a lot of shows.. Have there been more unannounced cover Alex shows?👀 and here I thought I’d been keeping a close eye on Westendcovers’ announcements 😂 |
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Post by BVM on Jul 22, 2023 10:01:45 GMT
Well he sure misses a lot of shows.. He’s missed 3 (three). 2 of which were scheduled. He doesn’t “miss a lot of shows.” You seem persistently rude about Bogyo which IMHO is unfair and unnecessary. |
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Post by anthony on Jul 22, 2023 12:34:58 GMT
Just to clarify, I wasn't dissing on Bogyo. I actually quite enjoyed his performance, but rather I quite like seeing understudies, especially after seeing the main cast several times! It's not unknown for me to book a last minute show based on WestEnd Understudies tweets!
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Post by danb on Jul 22, 2023 16:57:06 GMT
I wish he’d missed the day I saw Moulin Rouge…
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Post by max on Jul 22, 2023 18:01:40 GMT
Just to clarify, I wasn't dissing on Bogyo. I actually quite enjoyed his performance, but rather I quite like seeing understudies, especially after seeing the main cast several times! It's not unknown for me to book a last minute show based on WestEnd Understudies tweets! No bother, that's the way it read to me originally. I'm sure understudies appreciate audience members who like to see the subtle or major changes that a different performer brings to a show. It's no insult to the 'main cast' member. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 26, 2023 6:25:17 GMT
Well, Laura P-P was good and I liked the new ending.
*end of positives*
This lame production just highlights the flaws in the piece which Gale Edwards and Double-Denim somehow managed to smooth over
The changes to the text have not helped anything at all
JB just stands there while MB gesticulates and then gesticulates with a limp in act 2. wow.give that man a medal.
The band dont sound live, is that why we occasionally see them?
Johanthan Kent and Denni Sayers must be embarrassed!
The artisty of the backdrops is impressive but they dont fit with the production, but then what does? The whole evening, sadly feels like a mess.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 26, 2023 8:04:02 GMT
Well he sure misses a lot of shows.. He’s missed 3 (three). 2 of which were scheduled. He doesn’t “miss a lot of shows.” You seem persistently rude about Bogyo which IMHO is unfair and unnecessary. He was terrible in Moulin, and he’s terrible in this. Facts are facts. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 26, 2023 8:22:46 GMT
He’s missed 3 (three). 2 of which were scheduled. He doesn’t “miss a lot of shows.” You seem persistently rude about Bogyo which IMHO is unfair and unnecessary. He was terrible in Moulin, and he’s terrible in this. Facts are facts. In Aspects his voice sounded nothing special at all. Is he employed to make MB look and sound better? |
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Post by BVM on Jul 26, 2023 9:21:52 GMT
He’s missed 3 (three). 2 of which were scheduled. He doesn’t “miss a lot of shows.” You seem persistently rude about Bogyo which IMHO is unfair and unnecessary. He was terrible in Moulin, and he’s terrible in this. Facts are facts. You said he misses a lot of shows. He’s missed 3 (three). 2 of which were scheduled. He doesn’t “miss a lot of shows.” You may not like him but that doesn't mean you can make things up. Well you can. But you shouldn't. |
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Post by danb on Jul 26, 2023 9:48:49 GMT
In ‘Moulin Rouge’ his voice sounded workmanlike at best. I had no idea what the fuss was about (the less said about the acting the better). I had hoped that he would sound better in a more legit MT role, but the reports from here say not.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jul 26, 2023 10:30:07 GMT
In ‘Moulin Rouge’ his voice sounded workmanlike at best. I had no idea what the fuss was about (the less said about the acting the better). I had hoped that he would sound better in a more legit MT role, but the reports from here say not. He can get the notes, but there's no power behind it, it's all a bit thin sounding. |
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Post by BVM on Jul 26, 2023 10:37:27 GMT
In ‘Moulin Rouge’ his voice sounded workmanlike at best. I had no idea what the fuss was about (the less said about the acting the better). I had hoped that he would sound better in a more legit MT role, but the reports from here say not. He can get the notes, but there's no power behind it, it's all a bit thin sounding. Exactly this. He hits the notes and his pitch and tone are fine. His power can be suboptimal. And it’s hit/miss whether he makes it to the last microsecond of the LCE Act 1 finale. Which is a shame. But he’s hardly the first Alex to struggle here. He may not be the best on a West End stage but I’ve seen far worse. Reports of “how terrible” he is are exaggerated to the point of losing impact and credibility and it makes me doubt reliability and integrity of said posters opinions. Just sounds like the proverbial grinding axe. |
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Post by 141920grm on Jul 26, 2023 10:39:06 GMT
His attendance has been great but his performance not so much
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Post by BVM on Jul 26, 2023 10:40:03 GMT
As for Moulin Rouge, the direction has a lot to answer for. Across London and Cologne I’ve seen 5 Satines and 5 Christians and never massively cared about any of their characters!
(Off topic I know, but Tanisha came the closest!)
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jul 26, 2023 10:45:38 GMT
I saw this again on Monday, specifically to not see MB and see Dave Willetts instead.
It feels like a much more ensemble show without MB and LPP really owns the show without having MB taking the limelight. I love that she gets the final bow when hes not on.
Dave Willets is obviously much older than MB and despite singing it the octave down, struggled with the final note in LCE. Although George was an older guy in the original, I would have preferred someone aged between MB and DW in this production.
I loved the alternate Guiietta too.
There were a few things i noticed this time; George travels from Italy or Paris to get home, and immediately turns around and leaves again, the view from Giulietta's studio in Venice changes between the first and second act, Bogyo acts with his hands and it's distracting.
I still really enjoyed the show and hearing the wonderful orchestra, but the 2 reveals still confuse me.
Seeing the show again makes me realise how OTT those people are, who think the show is 'ICKY' and that was their entire take away from the show. It crosses Alex's mind for not even 5 mons and doesn't really act on it. Way too much clutching of the pearls going on.
I still think the design is wrong for this
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Post by 141920grm on Jul 26, 2023 11:50:02 GMT
I've seen Dave a couple times now and he doesn't always belt the final note the same way Michael does- more of a diminuendo- but still enjoyably resonant. Something on Youtube btw. And personally think his 'Other Pleasures', 'The First Man You Remember' (the 'softer' singing) are gorgeous.
Also, LCE in this production is 3 keys down from the original version, not an octave.
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Post by max on Jul 26, 2023 12:00:34 GMT
He’s missed 3 (three). 2 of which were scheduled. He doesn’t “miss a lot of shows.” You seem persistently rude about Bogyo which IMHO is unfair and unnecessary. He was terrible in Moulin, and he’s terrible in this. Facts are facts. Lies are lies when it comes to a performer's commitment to their job. Stop. Reputational damage isn't funny. |
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Post by danb on Jul 26, 2023 12:04:17 GMT
Reports of “how terrible” he is are exaggerated to the point of losing impact and credibility and it makes me doubt reliability and integrity of said posters opinions. Just sounds like the proverbial grinding axe. [/quote]
How so? Christian is a massive sing, and when they rolled JB out to great fanfare I assumed they’d gone American because they couldn’t find what they needed here, or had found the second coming. The fact that Muscato has come in and proven them otherwise (when he was here all along, next to Houchen and Jaden and all our other great voices) just goes to show they should have some faith in homegrown talent. Zoe Birkett was a stunning Satine, and there all along. I personally have nothing to gain or lose from stating ‘my truth’. Just, y’know, having sn opinion and stuff.
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Post by BVM on Jul 26, 2023 12:08:45 GMT
Reports of “how terrible” he is are exaggerated to the point of losing impact and credibility and it makes me doubt reliability and integrity of said posters opinions. Just sounds like the proverbial grinding axe. How so? Christian is a massive sing, and when they rolled JB out to great fanfare I assumed they’d gone American because they couldn’t find what they needed here. The fact that Muscato has come in and proven them otherwise (when he was here all along, next to Houchen and Jaden and all our other great voices) just goes to show they should have some faith in homegrown talent. Zoe Birkett was a stunning Satine, and there all along. I personally have nothing to gain or lose from stating ‘my truth’. Just, y’know, having sn opinion and stuff. [/quote] Oh I was mainly talking about Aspects. But appreciate I then drifted to MR. But the point stands. It’s because he isn’t terrible. He’s unremarkable or mediocre at worst. The hyperbole isn’t objective. Muscato is better. Doesn’t make Bogyo terrible. FWIW I agree with you that MR should have picked home grown talent. |
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