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Post by drowseychap on Jul 20, 2023 0:51:47 GMT
I’m seeing so many offers at the moment for this … I got my seat F50 in the lottery the other week for £30 … any closer than this would have spoiled it for me …. F row is a good height … I may give it another go and sit bit further back … I’ve even had offers for as little as £4 !!! ….. current lottery offer are still good had row H other day centre for £20
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Post by ncbears on Jul 20, 2023 4:10:43 GMT
Geez, and we thought we were getting a deal when the box office gave us Row F43/44 for 35 GBP each! Well, at the time, it was a great deal as I think those sites were otherwise 105 GBP. It seems like the house kept Row F seats for later. (Note: when we saw it on 1 July, there was someone in Row G on the aisle taking notes during the show). I now see that those seats have been reduced to 85 GBP and 45 GBP for "seniors"!
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Post by ceebee on Jul 20, 2023 5:14:26 GMT
I just can't see how these rock bottom prices are sustainable. Does anybody know the average "break even" seat price for a mid-sized theatre?
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Post by asps2017 on Jul 20, 2023 14:03:40 GMT
Really hope this doesn’t close early if it isn’t selling well. Have tickets for October…
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Post by SuttonPeron on Jul 20, 2023 15:48:30 GMT
Same here. Would genuinely love to see this, but I´m not particularly optimistic.
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Post by Rory on Jul 20, 2023 16:23:18 GMT
It will be an absolute travesty if this closes early.
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Post by theatrelover97 on Jul 20, 2023 16:42:30 GMT
It won't be that surprising through. Prices are now so high the majority can't afford them much or ever. Theatre is starting to price itself out of existence.
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Post by asps2017 on Jul 20, 2023 17:51:20 GMT
Hope they at least let us know in advance of it closing!
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Post by ceebee on Jul 20, 2023 18:15:30 GMT
It won't be that surprising through. Prices are now so high the majority can't afford them much or ever. Theatre is starting to price itself out of existence. They're not though - for this show, prices are dirt cheap right now. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 20, 2023 18:21:21 GMT
But if they had priced them more reasonably from the outset, they may not have needs such deep discounts now.
People are absolutely going to look at the headline prices. Only regular theatregoers who understand the system will look at the discount options. The more casual audience members may well not know where to look and give up when they see top ticket prices that are just scarily high.
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 20, 2023 19:22:15 GMT
But if they had priced them more reasonably from the outset, they may not have needs such deep discounts now. People are absolutely going to look at the headline prices. Only regular theatregoers who understand the system will look at the discount options. The more casual audience members may well not know where to look and give up when they see top ticket prices that are just scarily high. Or tourists |
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Post by A.Ham on Jul 20, 2023 19:32:09 GMT
But if they had priced them more reasonably from the outset, they may not have needs such deep discounts now. People are absolutely going to look at the headline prices. Only regular theatregoers who understand the system will look at the discount options. The more casual audience members may well not know where to look and give up when they see top ticket prices that are just scarily high. I totally agree. It’s only a small group of people, like us lot on here, who know where to look and how things work to be able to find cheap tickets and offers. I do worry that the vast majority take one look at Ticketmaster or the main venue website and are put off. Means more offers for us, but those aren’t much good if the show can’t generate enough revenue to keep going. The Aspects thread is full of negative comments and reasons why it’s not resonating with audiences, so it closing early is somewhat to be expected. But if something like Crazy For You, with all its rave reviews from contributors here and the national press alike, can’t keep going, I genuinely worry for the West End. Some of us want more than a handful of huge shows that’ve run for decades and a few jukebox musicals 😞 |
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Post by showtoones on Jul 20, 2023 19:37:16 GMT
I am excited to see the show but I think the issue is name recognition and marketing. People don't know what it is. With a show based on a film, it's in the public sphere and while this is a revival, people may not know what it is or think it's too old fashioned based on the artwork they are using. They need more sexy photos and a sexier marketing campaign. It's getting people in the theatre, because once they are there, they will have a blast.
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Post by A.Ham on Jul 20, 2023 19:54:07 GMT
I am excited to see the show but I think the issue is name recognition and marketing. People don't know what it is. With a show based on a film, it's in the public sphere and while this is a revival, people may not know what it is or think it's too old fashioned based on the artwork they are using. They need more sexy photos and a sexier marketing campaign. It's getting people in the theatre, because once they are there, they will have a blast. Again, I totally agree - it’s an unknown quantity for people so they’ll choose to spend their hard-earned money on something familiar. But isn’t it a sad state of affairs where to do well, a show has to be based on a popular film or the back catalogue of a big group or artist? Use Charlie and those beautiful chorus girls more - I definitely left with a crush on him, and the girls were stunning! How is 42nd Street doing? Although I’ve not seen this new production, I did see it a few years ago at TRDL and having seen Crazy For You last week I felt there were some similarities. |
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Post by showtoones on Jul 20, 2023 20:06:23 GMT
Having gorgeous pictures of Charlie all over the tube would certainly get me into the theatre. Perhaps having them perform more on television (not that that is an easy thing to do) could help as well. People, in this day and age, want to know what they are getting before spending a lot of money on theatre tickets. I also think they should market more to the LGBT+ community on this one.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 20, 2023 20:41:40 GMT
It is hardly an unknown musical.
This is at least the third production in the West End. It has been performed by amateur groups up and down the country countless times now.
It is a title that has been around for long enough for it not to be unknown.
As a show, it will not immediately appeal to the DEA or Six demographic. But there is an audience for classic Gershwin music. They just haven't worked hard enough to reach it.
They should be working with coach companies to get trips running. Doing deals with groups like the U3A and WI
This needs old-fashioned legwork not a Twitter campaign.
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Post by adamkinsey on Jul 20, 2023 21:34:10 GMT
Sadly, I fear this will be like Show Boat at the same theatre in 2016. Outstanding production, rave reviews, no names, closed several months early. But that was a much cheaper ticket. I paid £45 for a fabulous front row seat. Now, that gets you a seat at the rear of the circle (albeit great view).
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Post by ceebee on Jul 20, 2023 21:58:31 GMT
I am excited to see the show but I think the issue is name recognition and marketing. People don't know what it is. With a show based on a film, it's in the public sphere and while this is a revival, people may not know what it is or think it's too old fashioned based on the artwork they are using. They need more sexy photos and a sexier marketing campaign. It's getting people in the theatre, because once they are there, they will have a blast. Again, I totally agree - it’s an unknown quantity for people so they’ll choose to spend their hard-earned money on something familiar. But isn’t it a sad state of affairs where to do well, a show has to be based on a popular film or the back catalogue of a big group or artist? Use Charlie and those beautiful chorus girls more - I definitely left with a crush on him, and the girls were stunning! How is 42nd Street doing? Although I’ve not seen this new production, I did see it a few years ago at TRDL and having seen Crazy For You last week I felt there were some similarities. Saw 42nd Street last night - a couple of strong performances (not from the 'names') but choreography was a mess and the direction was linear and played too many scenes almost in the wings. Audience was around 80% capacity, mostly over 60s. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 20, 2023 22:25:56 GMT
It won't be that surprising through. Prices are now so high the majority can't afford them much or ever. Theatre is starting to price itself out of existence. Theatre isn't about to go extinct because of the pricing, that's a ridiculous thing to say. Having gorgeous pictures of Charlie all over the tube would certainly get me into the theatre. Perhaps having them perform more on television (not that that is an easy thing to do) could help as well. People, in this day and age, want to know what they are getting before spending a lot of money on theatre tickets. I also think they should market more to the LGBT+ community on this one.This is going to be a dumb thing to ask but why? It's a musical with Gershwin songs, it's not exactly La Cage Aux Folles or Kinky Boots. |
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Post by alece10 on Jul 21, 2023 8:00:05 GMT
2nd visit last night. Row F centre stalls and great view. Front stalls section floor actually bounces when they dance.
Went to try one of the front row seats before the show started to see what they are like. Stage is high and I'm 5.6 so would have difficulty in seeing anything from probably knee down.
I am becoming slightly obsessed with Charlie Stemp and when he is on stage (which is most of the show) I can't stop watching him. The guy oozes loveliness and how he can dance like that 8 shows a week is beyond me.
He is the sort of person who you would love to have as a mate.
Think I need to see this show once a week to cheer me up.
Just hope it gets the audience it so deserves.
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Post by BVM on Jul 21, 2023 8:38:03 GMT
Things that make the public buy tickets to musicals in sufficient numbers to sustain longer or open ended runs:
- musicals based on massive films
- jukebox musicals based on big pop stars
- musicals that get a fan girl following (Six, &Juliet, Heathers)
- musicals that feature a “celeb” (no matter how inappropriate)
- Les Mis/Phantom
- one off “different” runaway hits that really don’t come around that often (usually massive on Broadway first. Wicked. Hamilton).
- safe family shows or well loved enduring classics (like the Palladium stuff. Joseph. Wizard of Oz. Also currently Guys and Dolls. And Grease).
Things that don’t (necessarily) mean a hit:
- being well produced and superbly performed by a bone fide MT cast
- being popular on here.
Things that really don’t make as much difference as people like to think
- ticket prices. The GBP are very happy to kiss goodbye to hundreds of pounds on the shows in the top list - even during the cozzy livs. As I mentioned on the state of the West End thread, London theatre overall are taking as much money as they always have.
I think it’s actually pretty simple. Crazy For You simply isn’t a musical the public want to see in large numbers. Or spend their money on.
Sad times. It is depressing that hits that don’t fall into the top list are very few and far between. But there we are.
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 21, 2023 9:57:49 GMT
I can only comment on my experience and whilst I don't necessarily disagree with anything the above poster has stated, all I know is that when I was there, bar a hand full of seats in the upper balcony, this theatre was full!
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Post by BVM on Jul 21, 2023 10:13:46 GMT
I can only comment on my experience and whilst I don't necessarily disagree with anything the above poster has stated, all I know is that when I was there, bar a hand full of seats in the upper balcony, this theatre was full! I mean Cinderella at same theatre was always full by curtain up. Alas unlike Broadway we don’t know if a smash hit or heavily papered! (I like that we don’t know to be fair :-)) |
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Jul 21, 2023 10:27:53 GMT
Saw this a few days ago and thoroughly enjoyed it - but didn’t LOVE it. Charlie Stemp is a star. I knew that going in having seen him in various things, but he just doesn’t disappoint. He’s funny, he’s cheeky, he’s likeable, and - of course - he just amazes with the dance routines. Carly Anderson is very good, but Ppolly feels like such a “nothing” character. She’s introduced as a brash, scared-of-nothing, tomboy-esque postmistress, but she’s very quickly watered down to a rather dull, doe-eyed pretty girl chasing a handsome husband. I don’t know if that’s down to performance, direction, or writing.
As much as I enjoyed it, I felt the show was just missing something. Anything Goes at the Barbican felt like a better example of this ilk of show and did everything this production does and more. And whilst some numbers are really incredible with humourous and clever choreography performed with huge energy, the actual comedy and plot fell flat a few times.
Still highly enjoyable, but very much due to Charlie Stemp and the full company choreographed numbers.
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 21, 2023 10:44:11 GMT
Saw this a few days ago and thoroughly enjoyed it - but didn’t LOVE it. Charlie Stemp is a star. I knew that going in having seen him in various things, but he just doesn’t disappoint. He’s funny, he’s cheeky, he’s likeable, and - of course - he just amazes with the dance routines. Still highly enjoyable, but very much due to Charlie Stemp and the full company choreographed numbers. And he seems to be having so much fun with the character- especially when he's mimicking Zindler. |
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