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Post by martin1965 on Oct 28, 2016 20:54:24 GMT
Is it some attempt at humour to call a play "The Intelligent Homosexual’s Guide to Capitalism and Socialism with a Key to the Scriptures" and then name one of its main characters "V"? This play sounds very good for those people who like this sort of thing but deadly nightshade for the rest of us. As usual i have no idea what you are talking about but i loved this. The long running time flew by. Highly recommended!
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Post by Polly1 on Oct 29, 2016 7:44:24 GMT
Didn't it mention in a couple of the reviews that the title is a quote from an essay by George Bernard Shaw?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 8:24:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 8:29:44 GMT
Ta, x.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 8:30:44 GMT
As usual i have no idea what you are talking about but i loved this. The long running time flew by. Highly recommended! Oh, m.
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Post by mallardo on Oct 29, 2016 8:49:11 GMT
Tony Kushner's title does stem from Shaw's explicatory book, An Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, and indeed just after the play opens one of the characters reports on a production of Major Barbara he'd just seen - he didn't care for it or for Shaw's brand of dilettantish socialism. That's because he and almost everyone else in the play is the product of an old school hard line Socialist upbringing in the Brooklyn home of patriarch Gus Marcantonio.
Gus, now comfortably retired, was a longshoreman - like Arthur Miller's Eddie Carbone, not a coincidence - and union organizer in whom the flame of revolution has finally flickered and died. He sees the class system not breaking down, as he (and Marx) foresaw, but being incrementally restored in America - as indeed it is - and he can't face it. Or maybe it's just that he's a victim of dementia. Whatever the case, he has tried to commit suicide once and he's going to try again so his contentious family and their significant others have gathered around to try to prevent it. This is the play.
Although it's a working class family, most of them are highly educated and erudite. The talk is all on a very high level and if one doesn't quite follow every exchange one knows that some intelligent things are being said and argued over. But it's not just a play of ideas. The offspring are very f*cked up people. The oldest son, Pill (PierLuigi) is a gay man in a long term relationship he's now throwing away because of his infatuation for a rent boy; the daughter, Empty (Maria Teresa) is a lesbian whose partner has had herself artificially inseminated to produce the baby she hopes will save their relationship; V (Vito) is the youngest and least advantaged of the three and feels it bitterly. Clio, Gus's sister, is an ex-nun and ex-terrorist (she was a member of Peru's notorious Sendero Luminoso) in search of any solution to the problem of life and, especially, death.
The many plot threads are in a constant state of connect/disconnect brilliantly handled by Kushner and by director Michael Boyd whose work here is absolutely masterful. The second half of the second act - a scene of choreographed chaos in which nine actors engage in a massive free for all of invective, individually and as a group, constantly talking over each other and around each other in a state of near meltdown, yet making every point that needs to be made so that the audience actually misses nothing - is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen on a stage. When it concludes one wants to shout bravi! to all concerned.
And then, by contrast, the third act features a long two handed scene between father and daughter that is so quietly gut-wrenching as to be almost unbearable as a lifetime's worth of painful truths are finally spoken.
There are eleven great roles in this play and the eleven actors who fill them are all excellent. David Calder, as Gus, the focus of everything, is beyond brilliant in what must be the performance of his long career, and Tamsin Greig, as Empty, is right up there with him. But it feels wrong to be singling people out when they're all so good.
As others here have noted, it's a long play but never feels too long - there's so much in it, so well organized, so well played. It's just a great and unique piece of theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 10:40:37 GMT
Tony Kushner's title does stem from Shaw's explicatory book, An Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, and indeed just after the play opens one of the characters reports on a production of Major Barbara he'd just seen - he didn't care for it or for Shaw's brand of dilettantish socialism. That's because he and almost everyone else in the play is the product of an old school hard line Socialist upbringing in the Brooklyn home of patriarch Gus Marcantonio. snipped.... What he said.... The act two (of three) climax, as mentioned, is an absolute tour de force of acting, writing and directing and indicative of the quality of all of those elements in the show as a whole. The tricky thing writing a play of ideas is to not preach, something that Shaw often fell foul of. Not here, the shades of political and personal belief are beautifully, organically worked into the fabric of each character.
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Post by Mark on Oct 29, 2016 10:46:42 GMT
Tony Kushner's title does stem from Shaw's explicatory book, An Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, and indeed just after the play opens one of the characters reports on a production of Major Barbara he'd just seen - he didn't care for it or for Shaw's brand of dilettantish socialism. That's because he and almost everyone else in the play is the product of an old school hard line Socialist upbringing in the Brooklyn home of patriarch Gus Marcantonio. ...... ..... .... Excellent review mallardo. Still heavily on my mind a few days later. I could easily go and watch this play again. Don't miss it!
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 29, 2016 11:41:54 GMT
Indeed, go!!
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Post by n1david on Oct 29, 2016 14:41:23 GMT
So much looking forward to this. So relieved I booked a matinee...
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 29, 2016 16:48:33 GMT
Hope you love it as much as i did.
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Post by tmesis on Oct 30, 2016 21:19:53 GMT
I thought this a great play, immaculately acted and directed. I agree that the end of act two was a theatrical tour de force reminding me of a finale to a Mozart opera where he piles on confusion and theatrical intrigue but nevertheless all the emotions are delineated clearly. It set me wondering how much leeway they have in performance and whether the 'talking over' has to be timed with almost musical precision or does it differ markedly from performance to performance.
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Post by showgirl on Oct 31, 2016 4:20:59 GMT
I didn't fancy this and the running time had confirmed my decision not to book, but the positive posts here persuaded me otherwise. However, that hesitation naturally left me with little choice re seating and I have had to book the circle, where I have never sat before - I always book an aisle seat in the stalls. Has anyone here sat in the circle, please, and if so, how remote does it seem from the stage? (I do know that the seating config changes but I think this tends to affect the stalls only.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 6:37:25 GMT
I've sat in the back row of the circle for this and Labyrinth, and it's absolutely fine - such a small theatre that the distance isn't a problem. And the set for this is on three levels so I suspect the view at the back is better than the front of the stalls. Once you've prodded the people in front and asked them to stop leaning forward at any rate.
Only issue with the circle is that the leg room is limited - there are some seats with gaps next to them due to pillars (which don't restrict the view) so worth getting one of those if possible. Having said that I prefer the circle seats to the high seats at the back of the stalls.
It's worth giving the circle a go as the back row (which I presume is sold out for this show) is significantly cheaper than the rest of the theatre (£18 for matinees), so if you're OK with the view you can get a bargain next time. I paid £13 per show for this season as they were doing a 3 for 2 deal.
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Post by showgirl on Oct 31, 2016 7:59:15 GMT
Thank you, xanderl - very comprehensive and helpful. I actually had only 3 seats in the front row of the circle to choose from so I picked one and will try to remember not to lean forward - which doesn't sound necessary anyway. I also picked a matinee due to the running time and travel home so I was able to get the pensioners' concession (£20) - which is why I do only ever book matinees in the main house.
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Post by n1david on Nov 5, 2016 13:57:10 GMT
Matinee cancelled today due to cast illness. Very last minute given I picked up my ticket at 1.30... no decision yet on evening show.
Thankfully got online and nabbed the last two stalls seats for an evening in the last week, but not much left....
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Post by drmaplewood on Nov 5, 2016 14:50:38 GMT
Yep, arrived at 1:45 and they had just started telling people. Very frustrating as I had a front row stalls seat and not sure I want to splash out for a much less appealing seat on another date.
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Post by n1david on Nov 5, 2016 14:57:13 GMT
There's very little left, I went online as soon as the announcement was made rather than waiting at the Box Office and there seemed to be only a handful of seats left for each date.
I'd already had to rearrange this once thanks to a friend arranging a party, so I'm damned if I'm going to let circumstances get the better of me...
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 5, 2016 16:11:18 GMT
They cancelled this and Ragtime! It must be spooky horror matinees day
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Post by drmaplewood on Nov 5, 2016 18:02:07 GMT
Weird that there's no mention of it on their Twitter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 18:54:02 GMT
It's all going ahead tonight so far. When I called earlier to check, the delightful lady at the box office said that the doctor was with the actor who was ill hence the cancellation. She wouldn't say who though. Clearly a lady to be trusted with a secret.
I hope it wasn't Lex Shrapnel. Purely because it's one of the most fabulous names around.
Another long one. Thank goodness the tube is running through the night!
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Post by gazzaw13 on Nov 7, 2016 8:56:02 GMT
Saw this on Friday, before the cast illness. I really enjoyed it - yes it's too long and too clever and self indulgent but never boring. It reminded me of a Donna Tartt novel, you desperately want to get back on the highway to the central narrative but enjoy yourself on the back roads.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 12:05:23 GMT
Tamsin Greig. I love you.
If you're going to see this, I'd suggest a bit of reading up (either the programme or Google) beforehand. It will makes things a bit easier. Having said that, it's a terrific play and a wonderful cast. Yes, a bit long and rambly but it doesn't feel like it in the way that, say, 'Oil' does.
And it's worth seeing for one particular scene where all of the characters are on stage, all speaking at the same time. I almost gave them an ovation at the end of it!!
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Post by Latecomer on Nov 9, 2016 20:00:27 GMT
Well this was splendid! Seemed right to be seeing it on the day Trump was elected and there was a point in the play where the whole audience groaned (as one of the characters was saying a democrat would soon be elected and then things would get better!) I am so glad I saw it...absorbing, fascinating play and performances from all the actors were stunning!
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Post by peggs on Nov 9, 2016 21:41:33 GMT
My family never rows as intellectually or as interestingly as this! Would not have thought lots of people apparently just yelling at each other could work but it really does, of course it's cleverer than that, must have taken some rehersing to get it right. I feel like i need to go and do a whole load of reading and thinking but in a good way. Lovely visual set and back of circle works generally for this though i'd have loved to have been down the front for the end scenes, talk about brutal. Was once scowled at most emphatically by Tamsin Greig but my she's good in this but as said so is everyone. Would have loved to have had longer afterwards to discuss this as throws up lots of questions but the wonder of theatre board means i can do it here.
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