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Post by Jon on Jul 14, 2022 12:53:51 GMT
Yes, so Oklahoma couldn’t transfer until at least then, so the buzz would be lost. IMHO Oklahoma isn’t good enough to transfer. I also think it’s probably too “experimental” to really have a long run as tourists will want their old fashioned version. That was part of the problem on Broadway, even though it did well critically. You do know not every show has to be a long runner or appeal to tourists...
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Post by showtoones on Jul 14, 2022 18:03:27 GMT
IMHO Oklahoma isn’t good enough to transfer. I also think it’s probably too “experimental” to really have a long run as tourists will want their old fashioned version. That was part of the problem on Broadway, even though it did well critically. You do know not every show has to be a long runner or appeal to tourists... Of course…but in commercial theater, producers do need to weigh the viability of making a profit.
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Post by demonbarber on Aug 3, 2022 21:03:17 GMT
It’s opening in the West End Feb 2023. Best guess Wyndhams.
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 3, 2022 21:11:37 GMT
It’s opening in the West End Feb 2023. Best guess Wyndhams. Correct
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Aug 3, 2022 21:25:09 GMT
Are they keeping the Wyndham's new layout to try to preserve the more intimate feel or are they really going full proscenium set up like was suggested earlier?
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Post by showtoones on Aug 3, 2022 22:17:46 GMT
It’s opening in the West End Feb 2023. Best guess Wyndhams. Correct Marisha won't be available to transfer if she is doing Guys and Dolls so they'd need to recast Ado Annie.
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 3, 2022 23:03:17 GMT
Marisha won't be available to transfer if she is doing Guys and Dolls so they'd need to recast Ado Annie. Also correct.
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 3, 2022 23:03:44 GMT
Are they keeping the Wyndham's new layout to try to preserve the more intimate feel or are they really going full proscenium set up like was suggested earlier? Proscenium set up like the US Tour
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Post by carmella1 on Aug 3, 2022 23:12:50 GMT
Do you know the cast? Who is Marisha?
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 3, 2022 23:15:15 GMT
Don't know that I'm afraid
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Post by LaLuPone on Aug 3, 2022 23:23:10 GMT
I hope they cast “against type” for it again after Ali Stroker and Marisha.
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Post by carmella1 on Aug 3, 2022 23:33:54 GMT
I hope they cast “against type” for it again after Ali Stroker and Marisha. Again, who is Marisha and is she also handicapped.
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Post by LaLuPone on Aug 3, 2022 23:46:55 GMT
I hope they cast “against type” for it again after Ali Stroker and Marisha. Again, who is Marisha and is she also handicapped. Marisha Wallace (Dreamgirls, Waitress, Hairspray) played Ado Annie in the Young Vic run. She isn’t disabled but is a plus-sized person of colour so it kept to going against the stereotypical casting of Ado Annie from the past. Marisha said many times how this was a role she always wanted to play but never thought she’d be able to, and she got raves from almost everyone for her portrayal. .
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 4, 2022 0:12:17 GMT
I hope they cast “against type” for it again after Ali Stroker and Marisha. Again, who is Marisha and is she also handicapped. Handicapped? Poor choice of adjective. Ali Stroker is disabled and brilliant, she won the Tony for the latter.
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Post by barrowside on Aug 4, 2022 9:46:41 GMT
Perhaps they will bring Ali over if Marisha is at The Bridge. If it's going into a conventional proscenium format they will need to create some excitement or I can't see it being much of a draw.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Aug 4, 2022 9:58:00 GMT
Proscenium set up like the US Tour ugh whyyyyyyyyyyy
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Post by barrowside on Aug 4, 2022 11:12:48 GMT
It sounds like they are doing this so it can tour easily. It feels like the wrong call. The traditional R&H audience may not like this new interpretation and a younger non-traditional audience won't understand why they should go to a proscenium production of Oklahoma! even if it is in modern dress with new arrangements.
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 4, 2022 11:35:32 GMT
Genuinely think people are thinking too deeply about this - it sold out at the YV before we even knew what the layout was (as per the normal YV selling an unreserved plan to start with).
It's Rodgers and Hammerstein - older people will go regardless. So many older people didn't realise it was a revisionist take until they got there... and young people aren't not going to see this because it's in a normal layout - I've literally never heard that as a reason to not go before
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 4, 2022 12:12:59 GMT
The last attempt at a national tour of Oklahoma crashed quite early on from what I recall.
The Young Vic sales of this were very much influenced by the reports of the US production and so people weren't going in completely blind.
And when that same production transferred to a proscenium setting, it didn't do so well.
So this is far from a done deal.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Aug 4, 2022 12:54:37 GMT
I saw that, with Charlotte Wakefield.
I didn't like her costume, I preferred the pretty gingham dresses from the film. I think there was also a lot of wood as the backdrop somehow?
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Post by Rory on Aug 4, 2022 13:32:56 GMT
The last attempt at a national tour of Oklahoma crashed quite early on from what I recall. The Young Vic sales of this were very much influenced by the reports of the US production and so people weren't going in completely blind. And when that same production transferred to a proscenium setting, it didn't do so well. So this is far from a done deal. It's already booked for the West End, is it not?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 4, 2022 13:38:56 GMT
It is but assuming that it will be a success there is far from a done deal.
Rodgers and Hammerstein shows are not the easy sell there once were. Particularly when older audiences are seemingly more reluctant to return to theatregoing.
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Post by Mark on Aug 25, 2022 8:14:32 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 25, 2022 8:19:46 GMT
I suspect the Wyndhams too for this
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Post by Rory on Aug 25, 2022 9:18:07 GMT
I think Oklahoma will go to Wyndhams but could Fairview be the transfer announcement today? I read an interview with Kwame the other day and he said there would be further West End transfers coming in addition to Best of Enemies. They tweeted yesterday about Fairview which I was surprised didn't transfer at the time.
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