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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 8, 2021 18:05:38 GMT
(Bad language follows)
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 8, 2021 18:06:48 GMT
He has a point…
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 8, 2021 18:08:05 GMT
Still haven’t got my bloody shirt back!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 8, 2021 18:08:43 GMT
But seriously, some love for England is in order isn’t it?
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Post by steve10086 on Jul 8, 2021 21:45:07 GMT
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Post by marob on Jul 8, 2021 22:06:08 GMT
As someone who’s not into football and isn’t English I don’t get the fuss. If it hadn’t have been for some poor guy scoring an own goal they’d have gone out, yet it’s being painted as some incredible victory.
The behaviour of the fans reminded me of the yobs we used to see on the news 20/30 years ago. And then you’ve got Boris and Priti posing in their England shirts. 🤮 You just know that they’re exactly the kind of people they would be using those water cannons on if they were allowed.
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Post by steve10086 on Jul 9, 2021 7:29:41 GMT
As someone who’s not into football and isn’t English I don’t get the fuss. If it hadn’t have been for some poor guy scoring an own goal they’d have gone out, yet it’s being painted as some incredible victory. The behaviour of the fans reminded me of the yobs we used to see on the news 20/30 years ago. And then you’ve got Boris and Priti posing in their England shirts. 🤮 You just know that they’re exactly the kind of people they would be using those water cannons on if they were allowed. I am English, and I totally agree with you.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 9, 2021 8:51:14 GMT
The only thing ..if England wins ..please not again by a fake goal as in 1966...
The depressing point as a German is...if the german team who played trash in the game vs England would have been coached by Klopp or Tuchel they would have won 6:0 or higher.
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Post by theatreian on Jul 9, 2021 8:53:09 GMT
I think some credit has to be paid to the players and team and Gareth Southgate in the way he and the team has handled itself. I am no football fan but have watched the England matches. They are trying to be more inclusive and if it brings some joy to the country after what we have been through then who are we to criticise. As to behaviour of fans, then no bad behaviour can be condoned and UEFA are investigating the laser incident and the booing which I totally disagree with during National Anthems. On a separate issue I wonder if anyone special will sing the National Anthems before the final on Sunday?
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 9, 2021 9:00:10 GMT
Perhaps the world class German military band
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Post by christya on Jul 9, 2021 10:15:32 GMT
I find it a bit hard to get behind any of this when I see football fans packing into stadiums, unmasked, then acting like animals on the streets afterwards. Meanwhile there are still restrictions on daily life in this country, my choir isn't permitted to sing together, and theatres are only allowed to be half full of masked people. Oh, and apparently the football is partly responsible for increased case numbers. Not something I feel like celebrating.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 9, 2021 10:17:52 GMT
And not forgetting the domestic violence rates. Beautiful game - meh!
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Post by alece10 on Jul 9, 2021 10:24:52 GMT
I wont be watching it as I am not a fan of football but I do wish England good luck as they have played well so far from what I gather and a win would really boost morale in the country. However do bear in mind it is going to clash with The Show Must Go On which is on Sky Arts at the same time so I would imagine most people will be watching that rather than the football so the audience numbers will be very low
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 9, 2021 11:17:57 GMT
I find it a bit hard to get behind any of this when I see football fans packing into stadiums, unmasked, then acting like animals on the streets afterwards. Meanwhile there are still restrictions on daily life in this country, my choir isn't permitted to sing together, and theatres are only allowed to be half full of masked people. Oh, and apparently the football is partly responsible for increased case numbers. Not something I feel like celebrating. It feels as though fate is against England trying to control covid. If only the damn football team had gone out in the first round.
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Post by sph on Jul 9, 2021 13:09:06 GMT
I mean good for the team doing great and everything.
But the fans? Wow. Climbing on buses and causing absolute chaos because their team won? Can you imagine what would happen if this happened at any other non-football event? Would the papers be so happy about it all then? Booing the other team's national anthem and shooting lasers at their goalkeeper?
I don't see why football is on this ridiculous pedestal above everything else.
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Post by theatreian on Jul 9, 2021 15:44:05 GMT
The Show Must Go On which is on Sky Arts at the same time Isn't that the week after 18th? I may be mistaken .
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Post by alece10 on Jul 9, 2021 15:49:58 GMT
The Show Must Go On which is on Sky Arts at the same time Isn't that the week after 18th? I may be mistaken . No you are right. For some reason I am a week ahead of myself and thought it was the 18th this Sunday. Blame it on old age. Still wont be watching the footie though
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 9, 2021 16:56:02 GMT
I've dipped in and out, mainly whilst doing the ironing, because you can look up for exciting bits, and get something useful done the rest of the time!
I like this team, I couldn't tell you much about them individually, but they really seem to enjoy playing. I'm pleased they're doing so well, and I'll watch on Sunday.
I'm not so keen on some of the fans though!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 9, 2021 18:45:26 GMT
I’m pleased they’re doing well too. I’m not interested in footy but I watched the extra time the other night snd it was exciting.
There’s a lot of generalising about fans. Yes some of them are horrible but the majority aren’t.
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Post by sfsusan on Jul 9, 2021 18:52:59 GMT
My landlady's daughter came from West London to North London in the wee small hours after the last game and said streets everywhere were littered with overturned tables and chairs, broken glass, etc.
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Post by firefingers on Jul 9, 2021 19:40:57 GMT
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Post by poster J on Jul 9, 2021 22:39:02 GMT
As far as I'm concerned the England team should be thrown out of the tournament for the laser incident and booing the Danish anthem. As well as being completely irresponsible about Covid precautions and booing England for taking the knee (fans should have been banned for both of those after the first match!)
Harsh on the team of course, but it's the only thing that would teach the so-called "fans" a lesson.
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Post by Jon on Jul 9, 2021 23:50:58 GMT
I’m pleased they’re doing well too. I’m not interested in footy but I watched the extra time the other night snd it was exciting. There’s a lot of generalising about fans. Yes some of them are horrible but the majority aren’t. You could say the same for other fans of sport. There's always a few bad eggs who ruins things for the majority.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 10, 2021 0:32:46 GMT
I’m pleased they’re doing well too. I’m not interested in footy but I watched the extra time the other night snd it was exciting. There’s a lot of generalising about fans. Yes some of them are horrible but the majority aren’t. You could say the same for other fans of sport. There's always a few bad eggs who ruins things for the majority. Exactly that. England (come on boys) Squad cannot he held, because of a lot of knobheads. With the amount of derision and hostile atmosphere being met over taking the knee, I think the England Squad are very brave to do so. I support taking the knee. For once It makes me proud to be English.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 10, 2021 6:57:39 GMT
You could say the same for other fans of sport. There's always a few bad eggs who ruins things for the majority. Exactly that. England (come on boys) Squad cannot he held, because of a lot of knobheads. With the amount of derision and hostile atmosphere being met over taking the knee, I think the England Squad are very brave to do so. I support taking the knee. For once It makes me proud to be English. This Go woke, go through
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Post by cavocado on Jul 10, 2021 10:25:28 GMT
I'm not a football fan, but have family/friend who went to the semi and are going to the final. There are quite strict covid rules in place - proof of vaccine or negative test within 48 hours, staggered entry times up to 3 hours before kick off, etc. So I'd guess the increase in male positive cases is more from people gathering in pubs or homes to watch in large groups, not so much from stadiums.
As others have said 'the fans' are a mixed group, the majority of whom are not violent and will be horrified by the one person who pointed a laser at a player.
I agree that theatres, choirs etc have been treated harshly, but it's not either/or, we can think that and still be happy for football fans who are getting to do what they love doing.
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Post by theatreian on Jul 10, 2021 12:22:29 GMT
still be happy for football fans who are getting to do what they love doing. Yes I agree entirely. Outdoor sport is a different entity to indoor events. Anything that lifts the mood of the nation after everything we have gone through must surely be a positive. As I said earlier I am no football fan and was always the last to be picked at school but will be supporting tomorrow. I am sure everyone has already seen this but just one example of how the team is bringing some joy.
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Post by alece10 on Jul 10, 2021 16:45:22 GMT
Apparently Wembey is about to be hit by a plague of flying ants! They were gathering here in East London last night.
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Post by duncan on Jul 10, 2021 16:49:56 GMT
But seriously, some love for England is in order isn’t it? No. Come on Italy, a nation expects.
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Post by theatreian on Jul 10, 2021 22:19:25 GMT
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