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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 10, 2021 0:29:16 GMT
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Post by Jan on Jun 10, 2021 6:31:08 GMT
"Danny Robins added: "I'm thrilled to be making my West End debut with this jaw-dropping cast ...." We haven't had some real stunt casting in the West End for a while. I'm all for it.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 10, 2021 7:00:01 GMT
No spontaneity needed dear. Just say the words as they were written and do what the director told you to do.
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Post by Jan on Jun 10, 2021 7:24:40 GMT
No spontaneity needed dear. Just say the words as they were written and do what the director told you to do. See, we're loving this already aren't we !
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Post by Rory on Jun 10, 2021 8:08:39 GMT
The premise grabs me, as does the director and designer, but the cast doesn't (except for Hadley obviously).
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Post by mkb on Jul 26, 2021 16:03:28 GMT
Anyone have any inside information on the likely running time of this? There's nothing on the venue website yet.
I'm booked next week, and I need to know whether I can make the last train. I appreciate it's just a rough ballpark estimate at this stage prior to opening, but I'll be kicking myself if I splash out for a hotel only to discover it's all done and dusted in 90 minutes straight through.
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Post by og on Jul 26, 2021 17:29:20 GMT
Wow the snobbery here, TheatreBoard at it's finest. Has anyone seen Allen act previously to make such remarks? She wouldn't be the first and won't be the last person with a credible music career behind them to take to the stage. Dare say Allen is far more competent, capable and qualified than anyone here.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 26, 2021 18:23:06 GMT
Wow the snobbery here, TheatreBoard at it's finest. Has anyone seen Allen act previously to make such remarks?She wouldn't be the first and won't be the last person with a credible music career behind them to take to the stage. Dare say Allen is far more competent, capable and qualified than anyone here. No, we haven’t seen because she’s not an actor. It’s not snobbery to question stunt casting. How would you feel if Lily Allen took your job despite having zero qualifications or experience for it? As for a credible music career, that’s definitely a matter of opinion. Sorry you don’t like TheatreBoard. Membership isn’t compulsory.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 26, 2021 18:45:54 GMT
Wow the snobbery here, TheatreBoard at it's finest. Has anyone seen Allen act previously to make such remarks? She wouldn't be the first and won't be the last person with a credible music career behind them to take to the stage. Dare say Allen is far more competent, capable and qualified than anyone here. I don’t really read any snobbery in the posts above either
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Post by og on Jul 26, 2021 18:57:40 GMT
Wow the snobbery here, TheatreBoard at it's finest. Has anyone seen Allen act previously to make such remarks? She wouldn't be the first and won't be the last person with a credible music career behind them to take to the stage. Dare say Allen is far more competent, capable and qualified than anyone here. No, we haven’t seen because she’s not an actor. It’s not snobbery to question stunt casting. How would you feel if Lily Allen took your job despite having zero qualifications or experience for it? As for a credible music career, that’s definitely a matter of opinion. Sorry you don’t like TheatreBoard. Membership isn’t compulsory. Jeepers, it gets worse. Everyone starts somewhere. As just one example, Billy Piper has forged quite a credible career as a serious actor following a pop career some would scoff at. Given that the personality presented by pretty much every pop star is actually a character played someone quite different underneath, I'd say Lily Allen has a great deal more than "zero qualifications or experience". Further take into consideration the careers of other family members, I'd say you're starting to look a bit of an idiot. She is more than welcome to try my job because 1) Im not an asshole, 2) like every other human, she deserves a chance, 3) she's got childrens mouths to feed and ambitions to follow. If your quote below is 'questioning stunt casting' I'd hate to see what you being condescending looks like! No spontaneity needed dear. Just say the words as they were written and do what the director told you to do.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 26, 2021 19:03:57 GMT
No, we haven’t seen because she’s not an actor. It’s not snobbery to question stunt casting. How would you feel if Lily Allen took your job despite having zero qualifications or experience for it? As for a credible music career, that’s definitely a matter of opinion. Sorry you don’t like TheatreBoard. Membership isn’t compulsory. Jeepers, it gets worse. Everyone starts somewhere. As just one example, Billy Piper has forged quite a credible career as a serious actor following a pop career some would scoff at. Given that the personality presented by pretty much every pop star is actually a character played someone quite different underneath, I'd say Lily Allen has a great deal more than "zero qualifications or experience". Further take into consideration the careers of other family members, I'd say you're starting to look a bit of an idiot. She is more than welcome to try my job because 1) Im not an asshole, 2) like every other human, she deserves a chance, 3) she's got childrens mouths to feed and ambitions to follow. If your quote below is 'questioning stunt casting' I'd hate to see what you being condescending looks like! No spontaneity needed dear. Just say the words as they were written and do what the director told you to do. Seems like a unnecessarily confrontational and personal response to me. What a shame. I don’t think Theatreboard welcomes such responses tbh.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 26, 2021 19:06:52 GMT
Most actors start at acting school. I’m sorry if that’s terribly old fashioned. Pull back on the name calling please.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jul 26, 2021 19:49:51 GMT
Billie trained at stage school - I think she possibly originally trained to become an actor rather than a singer - and did loads of acting classes in LA before she started going out on auditions, then started her professional acting career with fairly small telly roles and worked her way up. Which is pretty much the standard acting path. She didn’t just land a West End role because she was a pop star.
I don’t think Lily Allen has acted a day in her life before. Nothing wrong with wanting to explore new creative outlets, but your very first acting job being a West End lead is inevitably going to draw scrutiny. And let’s face it it clearly is pure celeb casting. No one cast Billie in her stage plays because of ‘Because We Want To.’
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 26, 2021 19:53:52 GMT
No, we haven’t seen because she’s not an actor. It’s not snobbery to question stunt casting. How would you feel if Lily Allen took your job despite having zero qualifications or experience for it? As for a credible music career, that’s definitely a matter of opinion. Sorry you don’t like TheatreBoard. Membership isn’t compulsory. Jeepers, it gets worse. Everyone starts somewhere. As just one example, Billy Piper has forged quite a credible career as a serious actor following a pop career some would scoff at. Given that the personality presented by pretty much every pop star is actually a character played someone quite different underneath, I'd say Lily Allen has a great deal more than "zero qualifications or experience". Further take into consideration the careers of other family members, I'd say you're starting to look a bit of an idiot. She is more than welcome to try my job because 1) Im not an asshole, 2) like every other human, she deserves a chance, 3) she's got childrens mouths to feed and ambitions to follow. If your quote below is 'questioning stunt casting' I'd hate to see what you being condescending looks like! No spontaneity needed dear. Just say the words as they were written and do what the director told you to do. Og - Now that Billie has been ruled out because her acting credentials and training have been proved, can you give us some more examples of others who have established successful acting careers following other careers, with no acting experience in their background?
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Post by nick on Jul 26, 2021 20:11:00 GMT
Jeepers, it gets worse. Everyone starts somewhere. As just one example, Billy Piper has forged quite a credible career as a serious actor following a pop career some would scoff at. Given that the personality presented by pretty much every pop star is actually a character played someone quite different underneath, I'd say Lily Allen has a great deal more than "zero qualifications or experience". Further take into consideration the careers of other family members, I'd say you're starting to look a bit of an idiot. She is more than welcome to try my job because 1) Im not an asshole, 2) like every other human, she deserves a chance, 3) she's got childrens mouths to feed and ambitions to follow. If your quote below is 'questioning stunt casting' I'd hate to see what you being condescending looks like! Og - Now that Billie has been ruled out because her acting credentials and training have been proved, can you give us some more examples of others who have established successful acting careers following other careers, with no acting experience in their background? I'm not defending Og ,who comes a cross a bit rude but... Not stage acting and some time ago but how about Adam Faith in Budgie? Apparently Cher did Broadway in the 60s before going on to a film career. Madonna? Bowie? Frank Sinatra? That's singers. How about teachers (Greg Davies), comics (Lenny Henry). I think talented people are quite capable of being good in more than one career. Mind you going straight to a West End lead is clearly stunt casting but it MAY work.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 26, 2021 20:15:12 GMT
OK. Sorry. Keeping it consistent then. How about just stage actors?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 26, 2021 20:39:33 GMT
Madonna in Speed The Plow. Not a great outcome.
Madonna acting generally… it hasn’t been good.
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Post by nick on Jul 26, 2021 20:44:08 GMT
OK. Sorry. Keeping it consistent then. How about just stage actors? That is harder. Lennie Henry out my original list. Quite a few comics have transitioned to actors - often musical - Josie Lawrence. I shall have to put my thinking cap on. A friend of mine, Sally Bankes, was a bank manager until her 40s and then turned to acting. Worked with Victoria Wood on Housewife 49 and, on stage, Acorn Antiques and was in The Watsons at the Menier and west end transfer until the pandemic hit. A few more: Lee Evans Eddie Izzard Stephen Fry Tracey Ullman
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 26, 2021 20:53:19 GMT
OK. Sorry. Keeping it consistent then. How about just stage actors? That is harder. Lennie Henry out my original list. Quite a few comics have transitioned to actors - often musical - Josie Lawrence. I shall have to put my thinking cap on. A friend of mine, Sally Bankes, was a bank manager until her 40s and then turned to acting. Worked with Victoria Wood on Housewife 49 and, on stage, Acorn Antiques and was in The Watsons at the Menier and west end transfer until the pandemic hit. Lenny Henry, yes. Still a primarily performing in acting capacity. Josie Lawrence started her career acting, including at RSC. Sally Bankes was fab in The Watsons.
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Post by Jon on Jul 26, 2021 21:51:38 GMT
og is probably Lily Allen posting under an alias....
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 26, 2021 21:54:36 GMT
og is probably Lily Allen posting under an alias.... or Keith...
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 26, 2021 22:38:46 GMT
Ms Allen is no Madonna.
And I don't buy the line that she is doing this to feed her kids.
It is stunt casting and should be treated as such.
It is for her to prove us wrong not for us to take it on trust that a first time actor can lead a West End play.
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Post by Rory on Aug 4, 2021 13:03:37 GMT
Has anyone seen this yet?
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Post by mkb on Aug 4, 2021 14:47:07 GMT
If you went last night, did you make a note of what time you came out? The play's writer on Twitter was expecting around 2 hours, and certainly less than 2:30, but could do with an accurate actual figure, as 2 hours means I don't need to stay over, but 2:30 does.
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Post by dip on Aug 5, 2021 12:24:25 GMT
I saw this last night. Came out of the theatre at 9:45 but that was with so loitering by the toilets. (it's 50 mins a side, 20 minute interval)
I really did think it was excellent. Know lots of people think Lily is just a stunt casting to draw a crowd but all four actors were incredible. It was a really immersive, gripping play that never dragged.
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