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Post by TallPaul on Nov 12, 2021 18:15:00 GMT
Look, hairspray57, I like you, up to a point, and I'm actually on your side, but just ask for a refund. In the unlikely event that ATG refuse, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. |
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Post by showoff on Nov 12, 2021 18:15:27 GMT
If doing one free test stops people from booking, those people didn't really want to go anyway. Missing the point. It's not the test, it's the fact that they may not be able to go if they test positive and then lose money on what they have booked and planned. Well of course they cannot go, but then the tickets will be transferred to a different day. Have I walked into the Twilight Zone or something? What problem can anyone have here? ATG were clearly strict about the virus when you booked. People had to have a negative test to go to Wimbledon, it was part of the privilege of being able to get back to doing things. The virus is spreading here, ATG are trying to stop it spreading due to their show. It's commendable. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:15:56 GMT
Missing the point. It's not the test, it's the fact that they may not be able to go if they test positive and then lose money on what they have booked and planned. Most places will transfer or refund your booking in this instance. No money lost, and you can see the show in two weeks when you don't have a virus that you might spread to everyone else there. Everybody wins! Lol still not getting it. You're coming at it from a privileged point of view. The refund question seems up in the air.and even so, What about trains and hotels etc. Some people will have saved up, and it will be a big event for them. And sold out shows won't be able to rebook you, and not everyone can just drop everything and come again in a few weeks. Trip to the theatre can be an event like a holiday. Bottom line is you make plans, spend 100s , have got your vaccine and even then there is still uncertainty whether you can go. There is enough uncertainty for people at the moment, adding it to their one treat won't help Like I say, I get the logic behind it to control the virus, but it does have quite major impact on audiences. And it's not like normal. If you feel sick then yes you don't gi but at the moment you can feel fine and test positive so the risk is greater |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 12, 2021 18:18:01 GMT
Missing the point. It's not the test, it's the fact that they may not be able to go if they test positive and then lose money on what they have booked and planned. Well of course they cannot go, but then the tickets will be transferred to a different day. Have I walked into the Twilight Zone or something? What problem can anyone have here? ATG were clearly strict about the virus when you booked. People had to have a negative test to go to Wimbledon, it was part of the privilege of being able to get back to doing things. The virus is spreading here, ATG are trying to stop it spreading due to their show. It's commendable. Stop saying they were. They wasn’t. There was no reference to mandatory testing when I booked - this is a change from a few weeks ago. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Nov 12, 2021 18:18:57 GMT
Most places will transfer or refund your booking in this instance. No money lost, and you can see the show in two weeks when you don't have a virus that you might spread to everyone else there. Everybody wins! Lol still not getting it. You're coming at it from a privileged point of view. The refund question seems up in the air.and even so, What about trains and hotels etc. Some people will have saved up, and it will be a big event for them. And sold out shows won't be able to rebook you, and not everyone can just drop everything and come again in a few weeks. Trip to the theatre can be an event like a holiday. Bottom line is you make plans, spend 100s , have got your vaccine and even then there is still uncertainty whether you can go. There is enough uncertainty for people at the moment, adding it to their one treat won't help Not a privileged point of view, just a sensible one. Since your alternative is apparently to let people go into a crowded place regardless of whether they have covid, just so they don't lose out on a train ticket??? Surely it's better to know that you have covid, so you can stay well away from other people, rather than continue in ignorance because at least that way you get to see Eddie Redmayne? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:22:33 GMT
Lol still not getting it. You're coming at it from a privileged point of view. The refund question seems up in the air.and even so, What about trains and hotels etc. Some people will have saved up, and it will be a big event for them. And sold out shows won't be able to rebook you, and not everyone can just drop everything and come again in a few weeks. Trip to the theatre can be an event like a holiday. Bottom line is you make plans, spend 100s , have got your vaccine and even then there is still uncertainty whether you can go. There is enough uncertainty for people at the moment, adding it to their one treat won't help Not a privileged point of view, just a sensible one. Since your alternative is apparently to let people go into a crowded place regardless of whether they have covid, just so they don't lose out on a train ticket??? Surely it's better to know that you have covid, so you can stay well away from other people, rather than continue in ignorance because at least that way you get to see Eddie Redmayne? Mocking the cost of a train ticket is showing your privilege. For a family of 4 that can easily be £100 or more And if that's the case why hasn't testing been mandatory since venues reopened. I say again, I get the logic but it has real world implications. Not everyone is like people on here who can drop everything and go theatre at drop of a hat and not everyone lives in London. |
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Post by showoff on Nov 12, 2021 18:23:25 GMT
Well of course they cannot go, but then the tickets will be transferred to a different day. Have I walked into the Twilight Zone or something? What problem can anyone have here? ATG were clearly strict about the virus when you booked. People had to have a negative test to go to Wimbledon, it was part of the privilege of being able to get back to doing things. The virus is spreading here, ATG are trying to stop it spreading due to their show. It's commendable. Stop saying they were. They wasn’t. There was no reference to mandatory testing when I booked - this is a change from a few weeks ago. I said they were strict, they were, I didn't say they asked for a test, but looking at what has happened these past two years, that was always an option when booking anything because the whole thing has been influx, and I would assume that they have something like that put into the conditions of sale (that they can ask for a test if cases at that time present to a certain level). Earlier you said you were fine with it, but your friend wasn't, the way you're arguing the case right now kind of suggests you are the one with the problem taking a test and your friend is a scapegoat. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 12, 2021 18:24:26 GMT
Stop saying they were. They wasn’t. There was no reference to mandatory testing when I booked - this is a change from a few weeks ago. I said they were strict, they were, I didn't say they asked for a test, but looking at what has happened these past two years, that was always an option when booking anything because the whole thing has been influx, and I would assume that they have something like that put into the conditions of sale (that they can ask for a test if cases at that time present to a certain level). Earlier you said you were fine with it, but your friend wasn't, the way you're arguing the case right now kind of suggests you are the one with the problem taking a test and your friend is a scapegoat. Fundamentally they communication strategy has been appalling. |
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Post by Jon on Nov 12, 2021 18:24:44 GMT
Look, hairspray57 , I like you, to a degree, and I'm actually on your side, but just ask for a refund. In the unlikely event that ATG refuse, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. This sounds awful to say but I have my doubts that this 'friend' actually exists, no sane person would be considering legal action over theatre policy as you'd be out of pocket for a lot more than the ticket cost if the case is dismissed. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Nov 12, 2021 18:25:14 GMT
Not a privileged point of view, just a sensible one. Since your alternative is apparently to let people go into a crowded place regardless of whether they have covid, just so they don't lose out on a train ticket??? Surely it's better to know that you have covid, so you can stay well away from other people, rather than continue in ignorance because at least that way you get to see Eddie Redmayne? Mocking the cost of a train ticket is showing your privilege. For a family of 4 that can easily be £100 or more And if that's the case why hasn't testing been mandatory since venues reopened. I say again, I get the logic but it has real world implications. Not everyone is like people on here who can drop everything and go theatre at drop of a hat and not everyone lives in London. I'm not mocking anything, I don't know where you got that idea from. People's safety should just be put above one person's '''right''' to see the show, especially if that person is ill and infectious. I do think testing should be mandatory at all venues, but I don't make the rules. |
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Post by showoff on Nov 12, 2021 18:26:13 GMT
Not a privileged point of view, just a sensible one. Since your alternative is apparently to let people go into a crowded place regardless of whether they have covid, just so they don't lose out on a train ticket??? Surely it's better to know that you have covid, so you can stay well away from other people, rather than continue in ignorance because at least that way you get to see Eddie Redmayne? Mocking the cost of a train ticket is showing your privilege. For a family of 4 that can easily be £100 or more And if that's the case why hasn't testing been mandatory since venues reopened. I say again, I get the logic but it has real world implications. Not everyone is like people on here who can drop everything and go theatre at drop of a hat and not everyone lives in London. But that still stands should someone test positive anyway or become symptomatic. What are you going to do, go with symptoms just so you don't miss out and lose the train money? Testing positive is the same as actually coming down with the symptoms, and you shouldn't be going either way. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 12, 2021 18:26:35 GMT
Look, hairspray57 , I like you, to a degree, and I'm actually on your side, but just ask for a refund. In the unlikely event that ATG refuse, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. This sounds awful to say but I have my doubts that this 'friend' actually exists, no sane person would be considering legal action over theatre policy as you'd be out of pocket for a lot more than the ticket cost if the case is dismissed. Look up how many cases in this Area of law are about things of tiny value. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:29:52 GMT
Mocking the cost of a train ticket is showing your privilege. For a family of 4 that can easily be £100 or more And if that's the case why hasn't testing been mandatory since venues reopened. I say again, I get the logic but it has real world implications. Not everyone is like people on here who can drop everything and go theatre at drop of a hat and not everyone lives in London. I'm not mocking anything, I don't know where you got that idea from. People's safety should just be put above one person's '''right''' to see the show, especially if that person is ill and infectious. I do think testing should be mandatory at all venues, but I don't make the rules. By saying 'just so they don't lose out on the cost of a train ticket' you are belittling the amount and making it seem irrelevant. Its a substantial amount of money for many people. I don't disagree to a point, but then theatres should have done this from the start, like air travel and border control, so you know that when you book there is a risk you may not be able to go. This should have been a nationwide agreement across all venues.Instead we have had a summer of people showing vaccine proof and being allowed, or in many venues cases not even checking that. |
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Post by mrnutz on Nov 12, 2021 18:34:20 GMT
This thread is absolutely wild.
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Post by properjob on Nov 12, 2021 18:36:50 GMT
I'm not mocking anything, I don't know where you got that idea from. People's safety should just be put above one person's '''right''' to see the show, especially if that person is ill and infectious. I do think testing should be mandatory at all venues, but I don't make the rules. By saying 'just so they don't lose out on the cost of a train ticket' you are belittling the amount and making it seem irrelevant. Its a substantial amount of money for many people. I don't disagree to a point, but then theatres should have done this from the start, like air travel and border control, so you know that when you book there is a risk you may not be able to go. This should have been a nationwide agreement across all venues.Instead we have had a summer of people showing vaccine proof and being allowed, or in many venues cases not even checking that. Again how does this differ from breaking your leg or getting a winter vomiting bug or any other disease? If you test positive and your only problem is losing the money you spend on a leisure activity you have got off lightly. |
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Post by showoff on Nov 12, 2021 18:37:00 GMT
This sounds awful to say but I have my doubts that this 'friend' actually exists, no sane person would be considering legal action over theatre policy as you'd be out of pocket for a lot more than the ticket cost if the case is dismissed. Look up how many cases in this Area of law are about things of tiny value. I mean, if you want to waste a lot of money, knock yourself out, but then you can't complain about the small amount of money for the test. You can't have all the things. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:39:42 GMT
By saying 'just so they don't lose out on the cost of a train ticket' you are belittling the amount and making it seem irrelevant. Its a substantial amount of money for many people. I don't disagree to a point, but then theatres should have done this from the start, like air travel and border control, so you know that when you book there is a risk you may not be able to go. This should have been a nationwide agreement across all venues.Instead we have had a summer of people showing vaccine proof and being allowed, or in many venues cases not even checking that. Again how does this differ from breaking your leg or getting a winter vomiting bug or any other disease? If you test positive and your only problem is losing the money you spend on a leisure activity you have got off lightly. Likelihood of those compared to testing positive is much lower. Its not an equal comparison Changing the rules, different theatres having different rules etc is just asking for chaos Already had friend say they'll just say they are exempt for masks at moulin rouge (don't condone that btw) |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Nov 12, 2021 18:42:56 GMT
I'm not mocking anything, I don't know where you got that idea from. People's safety should just be put above one person's '''right''' to see the show, especially if that person is ill and infectious. I do think testing should be mandatory at all venues, but I don't make the rules. By saying 'just so they don't lose out on the cost of a train ticket' you are belittling the amount and making it seem irrelevant. Its a substantial amount of money for many people. I don't disagree to a point, but then theatres should have done this from the start, like air travel and border control, so you know that when you book there is a risk you may not be able to go. This should have been a nationwide agreement across all venues.Instead we have had a summer of people showing vaccine proof and being allowed, or in many venues cases not even checking that. I'm not belittling the amount of money, I am stressing that any leisure trip for entertainment purposes is much lower in value, in my estimate at least, than other people's safety. I work three minimum wage jobs and can rarely afford a theatre ticket that costs more than £20 - do not accuse me of financial privilege if you don't know me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:46:10 GMT
By saying 'just so they don't lose out on the cost of a train ticket' you are belittling the amount and making it seem irrelevant. Its a substantial amount of money for many people. I don't disagree to a point, but then theatres should have done this from the start, like air travel and border control, so you know that when you book there is a risk you may not be able to go. This should have been a nationwide agreement across all venues.Instead we have had a summer of people showing vaccine proof and being allowed, or in many venues cases not even checking that. I'm not belittling the amount of money, I am stressing that any leisure trip for entertainment purposes is much lower in value, in my estimate at least, than other people's safety. I work three minimum wage jobs and can rarely afford a theatre ticket that costs more than £20 - do not accuse me of financial privilege if you don't know me. Fair enough. Just going by what you write. And of course its not, but also people who have saved up for possibly first treat in 18 months don't want to lose all that money. Plus the emotion of having yet another thing fall through. It just seems poor planning by theatres when this seems to have been something they should have worked together on from the start |
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Post by properjob on Nov 12, 2021 18:47:15 GMT
Again how does this differ from breaking your leg or getting a winter vomiting bug or any other disease? If you test positive and your only problem is losing the money you spend on a leisure activity you have got off lightly. Likelihood of those compared to testing positive is much lower. Its not an equal comparison Changing the rules, different theatres having different rules etc is just asking for chaos Already had friend say they'll just say they are exempt for masks at moulin rouge (don't condone that btw) You do condone claiming a false exemption that if you let them do it. If only we had a way of reducing the chance of people testing postive so less people lose money on theatre tickets (and as a side benefit less people die)? Hang on I've had an idea! If there is an event where lots of people are going to be indoors together lets insist they test to check they haven't got the disease before they come in. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:48:22 GMT
Likelihood of those compared to testing positive is much lower. Its not an equal comparison Changing the rules, different theatres having different rules etc is just asking for chaos Already had friend say they'll just say they are exempt for masks at moulin rouge (don't condone that btw) You do condone claiming a false exemption that if you let them do it. If only we had a way of reducing the chance of people testing postive so less people lose money on theatre tickets (and as a side benefit less people die)? Hang on I've had an idea! If there is an event where lots of people are going to be indoors together lets insist they test to check they haven't got the disease before they come in. Lol I live 100s of miles away and don't even know what night they're going...what do you want me to do?! Face palm...I never said I didn't get the logic, but it will cause chaos and upset putting it in place this late on. Especially when not all venues are doing it |
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Post by showoff on Nov 12, 2021 18:50:40 GMT
Again how does this differ from breaking your leg or getting a winter vomiting bug or any other disease? If you test positive and your only problem is losing the money you spend on a leisure activity you have got off lightly. Likelihood of those compared to testing positive is much lower. Its not an equal comparison Changing the rules, different theatres having different rules etc is just asking for chaos Already had friend say they'll just say they are exempt for masks at moulin rouge (don't condone that btw) Not really, you can easily catch norovirus or flu. If you're that worried, take extra precaution before going, double mask, stay away from people, social distance where you can and avoid unnecessary mixing in large groups. It's really not asking for chaos as they already said they were going to be checking vaccine passports etc, most people would apply common sense that they were really taking COIVD seriously and always know this was an option and it'll be the extreme minority who'll try to kick up a fuss. Ask to return your tickets if you're that set against a tiny test. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 18:53:31 GMT
Likelihood of those compared to testing positive is much lower. Its not an equal comparison Changing the rules, different theatres having different rules etc is just asking for chaos Already had friend say they'll just say they are exempt for masks at moulin rouge (don't condone that btw) Not really, you can easily catch norovirus or flu. If you're that worried, take extra precaution before going, double mask, stay away from people, social distance where you can and avoid unnecessary mixing in large groups. It's really not asking for chaos as they already said they were going to be checking vaccine passports etc, most people would apply common sense that they were really taking COIVD seriously and always know this was an option and it'll be the extreme minority who'll try to kick up a fuss. Ask to return your tickets if you're that set against a tiny test. Never said this was me, and FFS once again I'm not against the actual test or the cost. I'm saying the issue is the uncertainty that having to have tests too means. And I've also worked with the public, events etc enough to know how this could go I've not actually booked anything over winter. |
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Post by wick3 on Nov 12, 2021 19:17:09 GMT
The ones i schedule through DocTap are actual appointments where they’ll do it for you. Personally, Even though these cost money I prefer that. I can’t do the tonsil swab by myself - just not something physically I can ever “get right”. I know what you mean. Upon my arrival at LHR in 2 days, I scheduled my day 2 covid test onsite at LHR airport through express test right after my arrival. |
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Post by wick3 on Nov 12, 2021 19:22:12 GMT
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