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Post by alece10 on Oct 11, 2022 15:15:43 GMT
I'm half way through the OBC and really enjoying the music. It has 37 songs so don't know if they are all in the show as that seems a lot but even better if so as I love a musical with more music than dialogue.
As I mentioned earlier I was aware of the musical but knew nothing about it or the music, however I now realise I know one song "I'm Alive" as its on Aaron Tveit's concert album that I listen often.
So i think I will be joining the bun fight to get tickets.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Oct 11, 2022 15:52:29 GMT
I'm half way through the OBC and really enjoying the music. It has 37 songs so don't know if they are all in the show as that seems a lot but even better if so as I love a musical with more music than dialogue. As I mentioned earlier I was aware of the musical but knew nothing about it or the music, however I now realise I know one song "I'm Alive" as its on Aaron Tveit's concert album that I listen often. So i think I will be joining the bun fight to get tickets. There are very minor changes from the OBCR to the actual show (and when I say very I mean it, it's like 1 or 2 lines) and the show is almost sung-through, there's very little dialogue. As far as I remember, all the songs on the recording are in the show unless they plan to make cuts. |
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Post by apubleed on Oct 11, 2022 16:17:36 GMT
Beyond some very very minor changes to the lyrics that I think you are probably referring to (so small that I can barely even remember them), the other main differences from the OBCR to the actual show if I recall:
* "Just Another Day" actually misses the complete opening lines where Diana is sitting in her chair and sees Gabe come home late at night ("It's the seventh night this week I've sat will morning..."). Plus the entire middle section has been cut on the recording where they sing the 'only hurt' lines first with some underscoring while they are all in the kitchen together before it repeats again more energetically (which is on the recording). The opening number is much more satisfying on stage than on the recording in my opinion, with the total section running for over 6 minutes if I recall
* In "I'm Alive" during the Broadway run they started doing the note at the end of the song (I'm ALIVEEEEE) an Octave Higher. On stage whether they sing this note or not seems to depend mainly on the capability of the singer as I've seen it done both ways in various productions
* There is a reprise of "How Could I Ever Forget" if I recall correctly sung by Dan Straight after Diana sings it, which is quite emotional and sorely missed from the recording
* In "Light" Gabe sings a very rousing high note for SHINEEEEE that is missing from the recording (usually always sung on stage now from what I've seen).
Overall, the recording though is pretty close to what you'd see on stage and a nearly perfect representation of the show (but without the full context and visible acting you won't really get the full experience until you see it live - the emotions that came from Alice Ripley and Marin Mazzie were just next level).
Just an amazing, amazing, amazing show.
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Post by inthenose on Oct 11, 2022 17:11:43 GMT
There are some short dialogue scenes, always working towards the next banging tune. For example Natalie/Dan/Henry before and after “It’s Gonna Be Good”, between Natalie and Henry in the rehearsal room - just bits and pieces to join the story together.
I think the cast recording is absolutely superb though and very complete generally. I adore this show.
And for once one of my tips came off! (kinda)
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Post by AddisonMizner on Oct 11, 2022 20:57:50 GMT
Really excited for this, but know that I will not be able to get tickets!
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Post by apubleed on Oct 11, 2022 21:01:28 GMT
Urgh the hype about tickets is getting me nervous. Will it really be that bad?
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Oct 11, 2022 21:11:57 GMT
Again let’s be realistic. Jo Riding does not have the vocal range for this role. Hannah Waddingham does , but I don’t see her dropping her US career to do this right now If both Alice Ripley and Marin Mazzie can be cast as Diana, how does Jo Riding not have the vocal range for it? |
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Post by showtoones on Oct 11, 2022 21:45:30 GMT
Urgh the hype about tickets is getting me nervous. Will it really be that bad? You may want to invest in a membership? I did that for Tammy Faye and it took all of the stress out of it. If I would have logged in and been in an hour queue, i would have been crazed LOL |
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Post by zephyrus on Oct 11, 2022 22:02:17 GMT
Urgh the hype about tickets is getting me nervous. Will it really be that bad? No. Getting tickets for Othello at the Donmar starring Chiwetel Ejiofor and Ewan McGregor was stressful; I'd be extremely surprised if a production of Next to Normal which doesn't open for 10 months, and has no casting announced, is going to sell out by lunchtime on the first day of public booking. |
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Post by apubleed on Oct 12, 2022 6:56:27 GMT
Is there also a max number of tickets you can buy in a time period? Eg like telecharge in NYC. Want to try and go a few times.
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Post by inthenose on Oct 12, 2022 9:02:51 GMT
Oh it’ll sell out - no question.
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Post by singularsensation10 on Oct 12, 2022 9:09:19 GMT
I have no suggestions for Gabe though - we don't have an Aaron Tveit equivalent (plenty of pretty boys who can sing, but without an ounce of charisma) We have plenty of pretty boys who can sing with charisma, but the way contemporary commercial musical theatre is organised is so cookie-cutter, these boys are placed into moulds set by people sometimes 20-30 years before them. So their unique charisma is either not required or they do not ‘fit the mould’. The only time anyone is allowed to put their unique ‘charisma’ into a role is when they’re creating it, and the U.K. produces very few brand new original commercial musicals. That number is definitely growing but original character creation breeds ‘stars’, not the 12th replacement of Fiyero or the 32nd replacement of Marius - of course they can use that as training for stagecraft and confidence for when the opportunity arises to create a role but unfortunately most MT boys are not hired for their ‘charisma’ anymore. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 12, 2022 9:09:31 GMT
Have many people outside of this board heard of it or its writers ?
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Post by mkmg on Oct 12, 2022 9:19:26 GMT
I think this will sell well especially as the theatre is small but I don’t think it’s as popular as some of you may think. Those who know it will be eager for tickets but there’s many theatre fans who couldn’t tell you anything about the show and some have never even heard of it. It also doesn’t start for 10 months and has no cast yet.
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Post by viserys on Oct 12, 2022 9:27:05 GMT
I think this will sell well especially as the theatre is small but I don’t think it’s as popular as some of you may think. Thank you. I've kept quiet so far because I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but the hype here is mystifying. I saw the show on Broadway (with the late Marin Mazzie) and thought it was okay, but the only person I felt for was the neglected daughter. The whole approach to Diana's problems was far too American for me and it downright annoyed me that she took two and a half hours to come to the solution which I would have suggested to her five minutes into the show. The music belongs to the kind of new noisy pop musical score that never really appealed to me either - I want to love songs like "I miss the mountains" for their content, but they just don't do much for me. It's also so long ago that the current young generation of fans that sell out shows like Six and Heathers have never even heard of it. They might be lured in by casting a fan favourite like Jordan Luke Gage as Gabe. I'm also not sure that a serious show about mental health is something that appeals to the average ticket buyer when real life is stressful enough. Yes, it will sell out, because fans in the UK have been waiting for this so long and the Donmar is tiny, but I'm sure there'll be plenty of tickets when regular public booking opens. |
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Post by inthenose on Oct 12, 2022 9:32:52 GMT
We’ll have to wait and see, I guess  |
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 12, 2022 9:52:17 GMT
Donmar Warehouse capacity - 251
Almedia Theatre capacity - 325
Next to Normal - 12 August to 7 October 2023 (57 days)
Tammy Faye - 14 October to 3 December 2022 (51 days)
If, for simplicity, one number is multiplied by the other, there will be 14,307* tickets available for Next to Normal, compared to the 16,575* tickets that were available for Tammy Faye, which I think took a few days to sell out.
*not the actual number of tickets available.
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Post by theatreian on Oct 12, 2022 10:02:42 GMT
I've never heard of it until now or know anything about it, but with the limited run and tickets and Donmar reputation this will sell well I am sure.
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Post by apubleed on Oct 12, 2022 10:09:34 GMT
Donmar Warehouse capacity - 251 Almedia Theatre capacity - 325 Next to Normal - 12 August to 7 October 2023 (57 days) Tammy Faye - 14 October to 3 December 2022 (51 days) If, for simplicity, one number is multiplied by the other, there will be 14,307* tickets available for Next to Normal, compared to the 16,575* tickets that were available for Tammy Faye, which I think took a few days to sell out. *not the actual number of tickets available.But Tammy Faye is a new Elton John musical that was starting performances very quickly and had a well known (ish) US performer to theatre fans at least. I would expect demand to be higher for Tammy Faye right now than n2n at the Donmar. |
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 12, 2022 10:10:45 GMT
Donmar Warehouse capacity - 251 Almedia Theatre capacity - 325 Next to Normal - 12 August to 7 October 2023 (57 days) Tammy Faye - 14 October to 3 December 2022 (51 days) If, for simplicity, one number is multiplied by the other, there will be 14,307* tickets available for Next to Normal, compared to the 16,575* tickets that were available for Tammy Faye, which I think took a few days to sell out. *not the actual number of tickets available.But Tammy Faye is a new Elton John musical that was starting performances very quickly and had a well known (ish) US performer to theatre fans at least. I would expect demand to be higher for Tammy Faye right now than n2n at the Donmar. Yes, that was the point I was making. |
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Post by inthenose on Oct 12, 2022 10:40:15 GMT
Next to Normal won Tony Awards and the Pulitzer Prize, and had a very successful Broadway run. It isn’t the scrappy underdog unknown musical some are implying. Plenty have heard of it…
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Post by viserys on Oct 12, 2022 11:13:38 GMT
Nobody is saying that it WON'T sell. I'm sure it will (depending on casting I may join the rush for a ticket). Just not that there will be a bad rush for tickets that will sell out all performances on day one of public booking (for those who worry now about getting tickets/having to buy a membership). As TallPaul pointed out, not even Tammy Faye managed that now.
I think that's a fair assumption, especially when looking at how other recent Tony Award Best Musical winners have been doing (Fun Home at the Young Vic, now Band's Visit at the Donmar, plus Spring Awakening came hot on the heels of a Tony Award win back then and was still a major flop in London). And even the Pulitzer is no guarantee for bums on seats these days, look at A Strange Loop, which is closing on Broadway in January...
It seems rare these days that shows that reach the general public (aka the "masses" that some here like to look down on) win big time, while prizes go to smaller more demanding shows with a more specific audience. I guess "Cats" would be laughed out of town now instead of gathering seven Tonys, including the one for Best Musical.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Oct 12, 2022 12:37:38 GMT
Next to Normal won Tony Awards and the Pulitzer Prize, and had a very successful Broadway run. It isn’t the scrappy underdog unknown musical some are implying. Plenty have heard of it… Plenty have heard of it because they're theatre fans and follow what's going on, when and where. Outside of that bubble it's a complete unknown.
Next To Normal was the best answer on the board on 'Pointless' a while back, because it scored 0
(side note - I miss Richard not being on Pointless!)
I hope it stays unknown, at least until we have all had chance to get tickets for it and before it becomes the next thing for young adults to fixate on.
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Post by Mark on Oct 12, 2022 12:47:39 GMT
Next to Normal won Tony Awards and the Pulitzer Prize, and had a very successful Broadway run. It isn’t the scrappy underdog unknown musical some are implying. Plenty have heard of it… Plenty have heard of it because they're theatre fans and follow what's going on, when and where. Outside of that bubble it's a complete unknown.
Next To Normal was the best answer on the board on 'Pointless' a while back, because it scored 0
(side note - I miss Richard not being on Pointless!)
I hope it stays unknown, at least until we have all had chance to get tickets for it and before it becomes the next thing for young adults to fixate on.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 12, 2022 14:21:21 GMT
Ok so Next to Normal isn’t for “the masses”. Would that be right? It’s useful to know as I don’t like going where I’m not welcome 🙂
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