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Post by max on Aug 22, 2021 15:32:45 GMT
Would a limited run at ENO work as their Summer musical? Or is the whole point of that recent tradition that it's their in-house produced money maker?
Or, could the National Theatre take it, to cut short whatever lacklustre thing has flopped? Or The Bridge? (same logic)
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Post by alece10 on Aug 22, 2021 15:47:20 GMT
Would a limited run at ENO work as their Summer musical? Or is the whole point of that recent tradition that it's their in-house produced money maker? Or, could the National Theatre take it, to cut short whatever lacklustre thing has flopped? Or The Bridge? (same logic) Coliseum is meant to be doing My Fair Lady next summer so doubt it would be there. Does the NT do other productions or do they tend to keep it in house and do their own.
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Post by max on Aug 22, 2021 17:00:55 GMT
NT has been co-producing with out-of-London venues, or bringing things in after they've been a success elsewhere e.g. Jane Eyre, and Peter Pan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 17:07:23 GMT
I had hopes that the NT (or otherwise) would bring back Hadestown. I had thought pre-2020 there were plans.
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Post by danb on Aug 22, 2021 18:07:22 GMT
Would a limited run at ENO work as their Summer musical? Or is the whole point of that recent tradition that it's their in-house produced money maker? Or, could the National Theatre take it, to cut short whatever lacklustre thing has flopped? Or The Bridge? (same logic) No, they rent out the ENO as a money spinner every Summer. If they thought SP was popular enough to sustain a 3 month run they would go for it.
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Post by barrowside on Aug 22, 2021 21:59:01 GMT
Well the Olivier would be perfect for it and its a better production than Trevor Nunn's.
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Post by MrBraithwaite on Aug 23, 2021 6:45:57 GMT
I think the NT should try to do their own, new productions insted of bringing out-of-town shows and revivals (like Hadestown or War Horse again) to the Olivier. But that's just my opinion.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 23, 2021 7:08:17 GMT
I think the NT should try to do their own, new productions insted of bringing out-of-town shows and revivals (like Hadestown or War Horse again) to the Olivier. But that's just my opinion. We won’t see the national staging musicals like this ever again. There’s too much box ticking they have to do now.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Aug 23, 2021 15:08:42 GMT
I think the NT should try to do their own, new productions insted of bringing out-of-town shows and revivals (like Hadestown or War Horse again) to the Olivier. But that's just my opinion. We won’t see the national staging musicals like this ever again. There’s too much box ticking they have to do now. They're staging a brand new one - 'HEX.' I'm booked in x
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 23, 2021 15:14:38 GMT
Standing At The Sky’s Edge is still planned as well isn’t it?
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 23, 2021 15:59:45 GMT
Yes but what I think mrbarnaby means is we won't get big revivals of R&H again (at least not for a while). Hex and Standing At The Sky's Edge are hardly Follies or South Pacific
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Post by inthenose on Aug 23, 2021 17:49:34 GMT
I agree with Mr B on this occasion. The National work very hard for all their grants and funding and that sweet dolla is entirely dependent on their programme being "diverse".
I am all for theatre "with a message" but they are very try-hard about it. In short, the days of their outstanding My Fair Lady et al are gone. What we might get is a modern day update of Pygmalion which somehow tenuously ties into the BLM movement and is set at a Pride festival.
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Post by poster J on Sept 4, 2021 16:17:34 GMT
I'm coming to the conclusion that I generally prefer listening to the scores of many of the "classic" musicals rather than watching them staged, as I was thoroughly bored by this.
The book is not good, the whole story is disjointed and it makes for an interminable first act. I found all the ensemble numbers more shouted and shrill than sung pleasantly, and Julian Ovenden's voice didn't suit the overall feel of this production at all (although at least Some Enchanted Evening woke the audience up). Alex Young is good but I didn't believe Nellie falling in love with Emile. Bloody Mary was jarring and annoying in equal parts. Rob Houchen was the bright spot but his character is so predictable.
The revolve was used too much for me, it was dizzying. And it was a bit distracting watching the cast put masks on every time they had to walk through the audience, which was a lot (though full marks for safety).
I have such fond memories of previous trips to Chichester to see the brilliant Gypsy and Guys & Dolls, but this one missed the mark for me sadly.
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Post by distantcousin on Sept 20, 2021 18:44:42 GMT
This was a disappointment. I have to agree with the previous poster in that Ms Beck's pregnancy is a distraction and hampers the somewhat over-enthusiastic performance. Having read several reviews, I'm surprised none of the reviewers mentioned that. When the production pictures were released I was surprised at quite how obviously pregnant she is. It's made me reconsider whether to buy a ticket for the streaming, as I think I will find it pretty distracting given the character is very clearly not supposed to be pregnant. I think they would be worried about getting slated for mentioning it. We all steer so clear of offending these days.
But yes, it was distracting, and wasn't she also a little too old to play Nellie - someone in her early 20's. I found the comment about the age gap with Emile quite silly, when they clearly look a similar age!
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 20, 2021 18:52:16 GMT
Having read several reviews, I'm surprised none of the reviewers mentioned that. When the production pictures were released I was surprised at quite how obviously pregnant she is. It's made me reconsider whether to buy a ticket for the streaming, as I think I will find it pretty distracting given the character is very clearly not supposed to be pregnant. I think they would be worried about getting slated for mentioning it. We all steer so clear of offending these days.
But yes, it was distracting, and wasn't she also a little too old to play Nellie - someone in her early 20's. I found the comment about the age gap with Emile quite silly, when they clearly look a similar age!
I ended up not watching the streaming, as I didn't think I'd be able to get past her being visibly pregnant, so can't really comment on the age gap or lack of. Though didn't Glen Close play Nellie on film when over 50 so compared to that...!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 11, 2021 18:22:30 GMT
At Sadlers Wells next summer.
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Post by danb on Oct 11, 2021 18:26:21 GMT
Brilliant news! It was real quality.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 11, 2021 18:30:19 GMT
I agree. A stunning revival. A shame it won’t be back on the Chichester stage though. It was wonderful there.
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Post by alece10 on Oct 11, 2021 19:19:59 GMT
I hope its the same cast.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 11, 2021 19:25:02 GMT
Cool. I'm so glad I didn't splash out on the streaming now
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Post by Jon on Oct 12, 2021 0:00:25 GMT
Sadlers Wells is an odd choice considering South Pacific is not a dance heavy show like Singin' in the Rain.
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Post by barrowside on Oct 12, 2021 9:21:35 GMT
It's possibly the only house available. I loved the screening so would love to see it / hear it live if they retain the same cast. I've never seen a production of it that was so beautifully sung.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 13:20:41 GMT
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Post by Theatre Fan on Nov 9, 2021 14:24:05 GMT
Also Theatre Royal Glasgow 4th – 8th October 2022 x
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Post by jampot on Nov 11, 2021 10:26:03 GMT
Manchester Opera House 16th -23rd July Sadlers Wells 27th July - 28 Aug
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Post by jgblunners on Nov 11, 2021 10:33:50 GMT
Julian Ovenden confirmed to be returning to the role of Emile for the Manchester and London runs. Some announcements suggest that Gina Beck will also be playing Nellie for those dates, but the official website ( here) doesn't mention her so I can't tell if her casting is confirmed.
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Post by alece10 on Nov 11, 2021 12:38:44 GMT
Julian Ovenden confirmed to be returning to the role of Emile for the Manchester and London runs. Some announcements suggest that Gina Beck will also be playing Nellie for those dates, but the official website ( here) doesn't mention her so I can't tell if her casting is confirmed. Whats on stage saying she is going to be in it. Hope Rob Houchen is also going to be in it.
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Post by danb on Nov 11, 2021 16:44:29 GMT
Will definitely revisit it in Cardiff, or hold out for Bristol.
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Post by jgblunners on Nov 11, 2021 19:55:54 GMT
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Post by richey on Nov 11, 2021 20:09:49 GMT
Got a great seat at a bargain price for opening night in Manchester, really pleased as I'd wanted to see it in Chichester but didn't fancy the travelling down there
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