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Post by showtoones on Mar 26, 2021 2:32:20 GMT
He reports that there are backstage squabbles at a new musical and that dates will probably shift for it. Do we know which musical he speaking of?
Mr. B - have you heard anything?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 26, 2021 7:45:35 GMT
Not heard anything!
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Mar 26, 2021 7:55:35 GMT
Expect it’s a show that Baz doesn’t normally cover or hasn’t been offered any exclusives for... He called out the Prince of Egypt for poor sales when that was announced elsewhere. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 26, 2021 9:59:37 GMT
I think someone has dared to say Bad Cinderella is in fact erm bad.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 26, 2021 10:12:18 GMT
I suspect it is Bad Cinderella. As soon as I heard tantrum- I thought ALW.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 10:54:37 GMT
I think someone has dared to say Bad Cinderella is in fact erm bad. Do we have another Steven Ward on our hands |
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 30, 2021 21:04:10 GMT
I was told my a cast member of Sunset Boulevard that Andrew Lloyd Webber famously screamed and fired the entire cast after a rehearsal one evening only to grovel and have them all come in embarrassed the next day.
#dramaqueens
Hahahahaha
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 30, 2021 21:28:29 GMT
I think someone has dared to say Bad Cinderella is in fact erm bad. I mean they are yet to offer us anything that shows its not Bad... |
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Post by danb on Mar 31, 2021 5:10:02 GMT
I imagine dear old Andy has a head-fit any time cases go up and it looks like he’ll have to put it back again. Given that sh*t rolls downhill it isn’t likely that things are warm and fluffy if everyone is on edge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 8:59:23 GMT
The trouble with ALW - and to some extent CamMac- they started out by using experienced people in musical theatre eg Hal Prince, Gillian Lynne etc but now tend to use "newbies" - which is,in theory, a good thing but who they can run rough shod over.I can't imagine any one being given a chance of expressing a critical opinion of a ALW produced and especially written show with him standing there. Definitely an element of this. Cam Mac deffo a worst offender than ALW though. I think certainly as he rose to domination ALW became very dictatorial - probably peaking in the Sunset Boulevard era. Then simmering along and peaking again at Love Never Dies. As someone that follows him quite closely I do think he's mellowed since then and come to the realisation that at some point he does need to hand a show over to the director (to the extent that anyone with his history could). Certainly in his autobiography, although it doesn't cover anything since Phantom, there is an appropriate air of humility that I don't really see with Cam Mac (I still haven't got over his Jodie Prenger reaction on I'd Do Anything). Having said that, I do agree, I think it would be almost impossible for a young director to express a critical opinion on his work with him in the room! |
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Post by stagebyte on Mar 31, 2021 9:48:25 GMT
The trouble with ALW - and to some extent CamMac- they started out by using experienced people in musical theatre eg Hal Prince, Gillian Lynne etc but now tend to use "newbies" - which is,in theory, a good thing but who they can run rough shod over.I can't imagine any one dare or being given a chance of expressing a critical opinion of a ALW produced and especially written show with him standing there. Except in the case of Cinderella Veteran director Laurence Connor is directing. His CV spans Les Mis, Phantom, Miss Saigon, School of Rock, JCS etc etc www.laurenceconnor.co.uk/about/He’s worked with Andrew loads. He’s not a newbie. Strikes me as a bit grumpy himself in the clips I’ve seen of him in the past. |
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Post by FairyGodmother on Mar 31, 2021 11:02:29 GMT
I remember on the BBC shows Andrew was always turning up in the audition/first cut stages, and bringing back people he liked that he thought shouldn't have been cut. He couldn't keep away!
I'd forgotten just how bad CamMac was on I'd Do Anything. David Ian in the Maria one was quite funny when he was blatantly "I want to get my money back on this, so I don't really care who we cast as long as she'll put bums on seats".
I could see Cinderella getting a bit stressy — it probably has the most kerb appeal of ALW's recent musicals, but the pandemic has made everything so difficult to actually get it up and running.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 31, 2021 11:37:10 GMT
I also remember CM having a Karren on the documentary of Barnum at Chichester.
I would like to think previously Sondheim, Nunn, Napier etc had challenged on various points.
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 31, 2021 12:05:39 GMT
I also remember CM having a Karren on the documentary of Barnum at Chichester. And with Half A Sixpence when he was the subject of Imagine. |
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Post by danb on Mar 31, 2021 12:51:28 GMT
Cam Mac doesn’t have a new musical opening though does he? He isn’t expecting things to happen til October at normal capacity. Happy to flog a socially distanced horse down at the Sondheim with a much cheaper cast but nothing with an element of risk. A realistic and astute businessman rather than wishful thinking.
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 31, 2021 16:05:34 GMT
Cam Mac doesn’t have a new musical opening though does he? He isn’t expecting things to happen til October at normal capacity. Happy to flog a socially distanced horse down at the Sondheim with a much cheaper cast but nothing with an element of risk. A realistic and astute businessman rather than wishful thinking. I wonder what Cam Mac’s plans are? Martin Guerre the return I hear? |
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Post by danb on Mar 31, 2021 16:37:46 GMT
Getting the cash cows up and running first, and helping with a few local bits & pieces.
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Post by steve10086 on Mar 31, 2021 17:51:45 GMT
The trouble with ALW - and to some extent CamMac- they started out by using experienced people in musical theatre eg Hal Prince, Gillian Lynne etc but now tend to use "newbies" - which is,in theory, a good thing but who they can run rough shod over.I can't imagine any one dare or being given a chance of expressing a critical opinion of a ALW produced and especially written show with him standing there. Except in the case of Cinderella Veteran director Laurence Connor is directing. His CV spans Les Mis, Phantom, Miss Saigon, School of Rock, JCS etc etc www.laurenceconnor.co.uk/about/He’s worked with Andrew loads. He’s not a newbie. Strikes me as a bit grumpy himself in the clips I’ve seen of him in the past. Not a “newbie”... more of a “puppet” |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 17:54:01 GMT
Cam Mac doesn’t have a new musical opening though does he? He isn’t expecting things to happen til October at normal capacity. Happy to flog a socially distanced horse down at the Sondheim with a much cheaper cast but nothing with an element of risk. A realistic and astute businessman rather than wishful thinking. I wonder what Cam Mac’s plans are? Martin Guerre the return I hear? CM is sat in the accounts department of Phantom wondering where else he can snip a bit more out |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 2, 2021 7:11:56 GMT
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Post by musicalmarge on Apr 2, 2021 7:25:43 GMT
Actors should be banned from using social media. If I was an agent one term I would state is that none of my clients could use the thing - nothing but trouble! We had that years ago. Much easier |
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Post by FairyGodmother on Apr 2, 2021 11:24:00 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Carrie's had using social media (vlogging etc) in some of her contracts before now. It's all new and modern!
(But I agree in some cases it could actively be unhelpful. There was a full rehearsal picture of Cinderella on Instagram a few weeks ago which was taken down, presumably because it showed people we weren't supposed to see.)
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Apr 2, 2021 13:53:57 GMT
A lot of celebrities nowadays owe their fame to their social media following and it's almost become a requirement to have a social media presence in some industries including this one sometimes from what I've seen, but why anyone with a somewhat large following posts anything but promotion and the tamest of takes on the mildest topics is beyond me. You're just looking for trouble if you touch anything remotely controversial and I just don't see how it's worth the effort to make your opinions known on such things.
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Post by lolalou on Apr 2, 2021 16:25:03 GMT
Agree. I know some companies like Disney are very strict as to what their actors can post. CHF seems to love a passive aggressive thinly veiled post from time to time. If she’s been cast because of her SM following and she’s an ‘influencer’ then surely it should be all good stuff on the account (at least while contracted?)
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Post by musicalmarge on Apr 2, 2021 23:07:51 GMT
A lot of celebrities nowadays owe their fame to their social media following and it's almost become a requirement to have a social media presence in some industries including this one sometimes from what I've seen, but why anyone with a somewhat large following posts anything but promotion and the tamest of takes on the mildest topics is beyond me. You're just looking for trouble if you touch anything remotely controversial and I just don't see how it's worth the effort to make your opinions known on such things. THIS |
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