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Post by anthony40 on May 22, 2021 19:20:08 GMT
First song- Serbia- she looks like Roxie Hart in Chicago Albania- some great lighting however it does have a bit of a Tina Turner 'We Don't Need Another Hero' look about it Israel- interesting head dress
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Post by dontdreamit on May 22, 2021 20:07:59 GMT
ICELAND, ICELAND, ICELAND. I have been manifesting them from the very beginning. It's such a shame they won't perform live but at least they are still eligible. Other favourites : Portugal, France, Israel ... and Serbia's stage presence is CRAZYYYYYY. I think our UK entry is cool, very soulful and appreciate the sentiment behind the show too. Iceland should have wine last year, so they have my vote!
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Post by ncbears on May 22, 2021 20:09:51 GMT
Cyprus and Moldova had same costumer? Or is it same woman?
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Post by ncbears on May 22, 2021 20:10:53 GMT
Take a drink every time a singer belts a high scream!
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Post by alece10 on May 22, 2021 20:18:15 GMT
Take a drink every time a singer belts a high scream! You will be drunk before half time.
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Post by alece10 on May 22, 2021 21:09:38 GMT
Well some of those songs gave me a headache and my ears almost bled. I bet there will be some sore throats in the morning. No idea who will win but for sure it will one of the songs I don't like. The worst, apart from the heavy metal ones was Ukraine where she seemed to be saying "stereo" over and over again. Looking forward to see Mans in the interval.
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Post by alece10 on May 22, 2021 21:16:38 GMT
But... what about the staging. It was magnificent.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 22, 2021 21:21:46 GMT
I just feel like all the outfits are the same - showgirl outfits trying to emulate Kylie / Beyonce.
NO. IT'S BORING.
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Post by ncbears on May 22, 2021 21:30:17 GMT
Belgium had no money for costumes, choreography or fire. Was she going to kill herself at the end by jumping off that cliff?
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Post by ncbears on May 22, 2021 21:37:18 GMT
Does Germany forfeit automatic qualifier status if it does not even try?
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Post by n1david on May 22, 2021 21:38:25 GMT
I've already told my sister that should Malta win and if they have to host it next year, were gonna get tickets and go. Oh, and there is a little problem that Malta doesn't have a venue big enough to hold Eurovision - they might want to do an open-air event at the The Granaries in Floriana but the EBU don't like open-air venues. So the question is would they build something or would it be a much smaller event, and would the EBU be happy with that... but I've only been to Malta once and loved it, so I'd love an excuse to go back next May...
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Post by ruby on May 22, 2021 21:42:20 GMT
Mans. I love him.
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Post by ncbears on May 22, 2021 22:15:32 GMT
22 juries so far. Nil for UK
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Post by ruby on May 22, 2021 22:36:20 GMT
Good on James Newman to still be smiling.
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Post by ncbears on May 22, 2021 22:54:53 GMT
Verdi, Puccini and Maneskin
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Post by alece10 on May 22, 2021 22:57:51 GMT
I do like the new scoring system, it's quite exciting but they didn't half drag out the last few countries. The winning song should be done under the trade description act. That's not a song. It's noise. But Eastern Europe do like a bit of heavy metal don't they.
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Post by ncbears on May 22, 2021 23:09:13 GMT
Italy was good, but it is no Ja Ja Ding Dong
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Post by theatreian on May 22, 2021 23:14:46 GMT
I had Italy 24th!! Felt so sorry for James but he held himself up well and seemed in good spirits!! At least a few got no viewer votes.
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Post by steve10086 on May 22, 2021 23:25:52 GMT
Can the UK stop paying for this now?
I’m not saying “we didn’t win, so we’re not going to play anymore”, but why carry on being one of the Big Five and coughing up to come last all the time?
Let’s just play on a level playing field with (almost) everyone else. If we don’t make it through the semi-final, so be it.
I know the theory is that the BBC want us in the final or people won’t watch, but is that true? No one expects the UK to do any good yet we still watch.
Let’s just stop footing the bill to get an unfair advantage that doesn’t even pay off.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 22, 2021 23:51:47 GMT
I am so proud of Iceland. Fourth place. A testament.
I particularly enjoyed Switzerland, France and Italy - good result.
Our entry wasn’t the worst song but the performance was vocally strained in my opinion. I have huge respect for James in the way he took the result - a lot of love for him.
And the Ja Ja Dong Dong announcer. Absolute genius.
Still think Molly should have sung an Oscar nominated song from Fire Saga...Missed a trick there...
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Post by n1david on May 22, 2021 23:54:29 GMT
We pay for it because it's good value for the BBC. Eurovision got about 7.7 million viewers in 2019 for close to 4 hours of Saturday night TV, which is more than double its usual Saturday night viewing figures. But its entire contribution to Eurovision (about £300k) is about the cost of 40 minutes of an episode of Casualty. It's an iconic part of the UK TV year and it's super cheap compared to them making their own programmes.
There's a different discussion about whether participating in the semi-finals would end up with us having better results in the final, but I can't believe that's the case unless the BBC concentrates more on our entry. I think we had a good song this year, but the staging was awful and I'm not sure that James had the pipes to do the singing and performance. Asking the BBC to invest more in our entry when it's not guaranteed a Saturday night showing seems unlikely to work.
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 23, 2021 0:14:15 GMT
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Post by Roxie on May 23, 2021 0:29:44 GMT
Iceland were robbed! If indeed the allegations about Italy drug taking turn out to be true, they need to be disqualified. Felt sorry for James Newman. His song wasn’t the worst in final and while not a winner, didn’t deserve 0 points! Tbh I think the UK could cart beyonce out and still wouldn’t win cos they don’t like us! Hopefully get to see Dadi Freyr on tour next year!
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Post by Jon on May 23, 2021 0:30:05 GMT
We pay for it because it's good value for the BBC. Eurovision got about 7.7 million viewers in 2019 for close to 4 hours of Saturday night TV, which is more than double its usual Saturday night viewing figures. But its entire contribution to Eurovision (about £300k) is about the cost of 40 minutes of an episode of Casualty. It's an iconic part of the UK TV year and it's super cheap compared to them making their own programmes. It's easy to forget that television is not cheap to make and something like Eurovision is peanuts in comparison to something like Strictly or Michael McIntyre's Big Show which is between £400k-£750k per hour.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 0:50:36 GMT
We pay for it because it's good value for the BBC. Eurovision got about 7.7 million viewers in 2019 for close to 4 hours of Saturday night TV, which is more than double its usual Saturday night viewing figures. But its entire contribution to Eurovision (about £300k) is about the cost of 40 minutes of an episode of Casualty. It's an iconic part of the UK TV year and it's super cheap compared to them making their own programmes. There's a different discussion about whether participating in the semi-finals would end up with us having better results in the final, but I can't believe that's the case unless the BBC concentrates more on our entry. I think we had a good song this year, but the staging was awful and I'm not sure that James had the pipes to do the singing and performance. Asking the BBC to invest more in our entry when it's not guaranteed a Saturday night showing seems unlikely to work. Is that all we pay, around 300k? I always assumed it was far more.
Next year I want a big ballad, maybe written by the people who wrote Six, called 'What Do I Have To Do' you think its about a broken romance, but really it's about getting votes in Eurovision
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 0:52:52 GMT
It might be totally innocent but if he did snort something, Italy have to be disqualified Why would he be disqualified for it? Are they performance enhancing? Does it give them an unfair advantage??
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Post by inthenose on May 23, 2021 1:03:01 GMT
It might be totally innocent but if he did snort something, Italy have to be disqualified Why would he be disqualified for it? Are they performance enhancing? Does it give them an unfair advantage?? Cocaine absolutely would be performance enhancing, yes. It is also illegal, a controlled substance and Class A drug. But... I don't think for a second he did, based on the evidence at hand. In the short clip, he at no point uses his hands to cover his nostril, which is entirely necessary for snorting powders. It looks very dodgy, but would be entirely impractical to inhale drugs that way. They have also just made a strong denial and offered to be tested for drugs, the entire band. Shame this has marred their win assuming he is indeed innocent.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 23, 2021 7:15:40 GMT
Can the UK stop paying for this now? I’m not saying “we didn’t win, so we’re not going to play anymore”, but why carry on being one of the Big Five and coughing up to come last all the time? Let’s just play on a level playing field with (almost) everyone else. If we don’t make it through the semi-final, so be it. I know the theory is that the BBC want us in the final or people won’t watch, but is that true? No one expects the UK to do any good yet we still watch. Let’s just stop footing the bill to get an unfair advantage that doesn’t even pay off. Time for Britain, Germany, Netherlands and Spain to breakaway and form a European Super Singing Contest. Embarrassing having to play the likes Azerbaijan and Lithuania every year
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Post by n1david on May 23, 2021 7:34:10 GMT
Is that all we pay, around 300k? I always assumed it was far more. The latest figures published are from 2012 so it will have gone up a bit since then, but it's not a huge amount by TV standards. The bulk of the cost of the show is paid for by the host broadcaster, the host city and commercial revenues - for guidance, I had tickets for Rotterdam, which was a 'fan package' ticket giving access to six shows, the jury semi-finals and final, plus the televised semi-finals and final. This was a cheaper ticket because it was the fan package. It cost €800. Obviously the BBC spends more overall on the coverage by sending the delegation to the event, paying accommodation, travel, Graham's fee etc. It will be interesting if they decide they can do more of it from the UK next year as they did this year, for example with the semi-final commentary and Radio 2 commentary being done from London. But for the viewership and the publicity, it's a good deal for them.
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 23, 2021 9:02:05 GMT
It might be totally innocent but if he did snort something, Italy have to be disqualified Why would he be disqualified for it? Are they performance enhancing? Does it give them an unfair advantage?? Bringing the competition into disrepute would be sufficient grounds to remove the title from them. They also - apparently - used the banned version of the lyrics in the post win performance. Which is a major rule break. But that will just be ignored.
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