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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 5, 2021 21:43:29 GMT
What is dreadful and thankfully it doesn’t happen now and that is when someone comes out on your behalf, like the terrible conservative tabloid the Sun newspaper, with the atrocious and machiavellian Kelvin Mackenzie who sat in the wheel house and had used the word ‘poof’ in a headline. The Sun used to turn up on celebrities’ doorstep and out famous people. Someone who I used to listen to a lot on LBC in the night, you might know him many years ago from That’s Life with Esther Rantzen and that is Bill Buckley who was outed, this led to both his parents’ telling him they don’t want to ever see him again, this then led to poor mental health sadly for Bill. Bill used to talk freely about his experience on his show. Same happened to Nigel Hawthorne, it caused him problems and distress.
So even there could be some gay footballers, it is absolutely right there privacy is respected and great they won’t be now outed in the trash press. If a footballer did step up to the plate, I wouldn’t think it would be such a problem and the majority of the public will embrace it. Apart from one football club and that club being Millwall, the BLM taking the knee has been well accepted. Iain Dale another LBC presenter and who gay and proud to go and support his football club West Ham.
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 5, 2021 21:52:53 GMT
intoanewlife I can't believe people just as you if you are gay, I mean I do believe you but I'm shocked people think that's an appropriate thing to ask. I take it thats meant to be ask? Of course they do. I'm a 50 year old man so naturally people ask if I'm married or have children and when I say no the gay question is usually next lol I find it is not as bad as it used to be, but still now if I say I have a partner I get the 'are they male or female' question which pisses me off because then I can't use my usual responce. It is usually millennials who don't really have a filter, but it still happens. Plus I work in tv so there's lots of us about x |
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Post by marob on Feb 5, 2021 21:55:20 GMT
Phantom of London of London It does still happen though. I read an interview with an actor called Max Parker, who was forced to come out to his grandparents because of tabloid stories about him. They’d taken an interest in him because he stars in Emmerdale and had started dating the actor who played his brother on the show. Wasn’t there some story about Philip Schofield having to preempt a tabloid story as well?
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Post by kathryn on Feb 5, 2021 22:08:18 GMT
Whilst I agree that coming out as a group would be a great event for football, I think the tribal nature of many fans would still lead to a lot of abuse. I can't fathom why sports engenders this sort of passion. It seems so much more extreme than any other mainstream interest/activity. But I do think that there would be hatred towards those who dared to be open about their sexuality. It could eventually lead to a better overall climate but it will not be an easy transition. Oh I know there’d still be abuse - that’s the nature of football fans - but if both teams have gay players on the pitch then it’s a different dynamic. Much easier for the teams to take action against it in solidarity. Obviously we know from the experience of black players that horrendous abuse still happens, but increasingly players act in solidarity to protest it and clubs take action against ‘fans’ who perpetuate it. If it’s going to happen at all I think that’s the best way to manage it. |
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Post by peggs on Feb 5, 2021 22:49:35 GMT
intoanewlife I can't believe people just as you if you are gay, I mean I do believe you but I'm shocked people think that's an appropriate thing to ask. I take it thats meant to be ask? Of course they do. I'm a 50 year old man so naturally people ask if I'm married or have children and when I say no the gay question is usually next lol I find it is not as bad as it used to be, but still now if I say I have a partner I get the 'are they male or female' question which pisses me off because then I can't use my usual responce. It is usually millennials who don't really have a filter, but it still happens. Plus I work in tv so there's lots of us about x Yes, I really should re-read what I type. I really want to argue back that you could be married and have kids and be gay so the questioners logic is suspect but I'm not that naive to think that isn't how some people think. |
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Post by theatreian on Feb 5, 2021 23:16:14 GMT
Although things are a bit better there is still a long way to go. I guess compared to where we were back in the 60's/ 70's we have come a long way, but that sort of inbuilt prejudice does not go away overnight.
There is so much more awareness now though of the issues and at least they are spoken about more openly.
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Post by theatreian on Feb 13, 2021 23:00:57 GMT
Just in case anyone hasn't seen it: Love, Simon is on Film 4 tomorrow night at 9pm. Saw it for the 1st time tonight and really enjoyed it. Watch it if you can it's on the coming out theme. tv24.co.uk/b/qojec0-gl2 |
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