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Post by n1david on Jan 31, 2021 15:51:09 GMT
"Loads of money" Thatcherism didn't reach many parts of the UK. There wasn't a lot of shopping at Next in the West of Scotland. The Glaswegian student flats I remember from the mid 80s were not all that different from the ones you'd have seen in the 60s. Yes, we could tell there were people making money somewhere and telling Sid and buying up council homes. But that certainly wasn't the case everywhere.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 31, 2021 17:53:51 GMT
I’m an 80s child and lived in surburbia - I promise you I know what I’m talking about. We moved into what is still my parents’ home in 1983.
My parents didn’t replace the original avocado bathroom suite until the early 2000s - when my Mum got a small inheritance. It just wasn’t a priority to replace, even though it was ugly - it functioned. They still have the replacement bathroom suite now.
The big TV hit in the 1990s was ‘Changing Rooms’ - the hit home improvement show that had a £500 budget per room and was all about inspiring people to make cheap but bold design changes. The idea that you would bother to change perfectly adequate furniture and fittings just because they fell out of fashion was completely alien to most working class people.
Edit: Habitat! I remember Habitat - we considered it posh in the 90s! I put a Habitat rug on my Christmas list the year I started uni - again, the early 2000s.
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Post by theatreian on Feb 2, 2021 12:38:10 GMT
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 2, 2021 13:12:59 GMT
Let's not forget that papers such as the Daily Fail have generated a lot of hatred the television series is about.
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Post by mkb on Feb 3, 2021 22:23:24 GMT
Let's not forget that papers such as the Daily Fail have generated a lot of hatred the television series is about. A lot of the hatred also came from the Murdoch press, yet two of the stars saw fit to promote the show with appearances on Murdoch radio, which I learned from their promotion of this radio station on their Twitter accounts. That's very disappointing, as someone who experienced the vitriol from the Murdoch media empire in the 80s and beyond.
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Post by squidward on Feb 4, 2021 2:34:40 GMT
Just want to recommend that folks don’t stay up late to watch the last couple of episodes before going to bed - proved to be seriously disruptive to sleep! Can’t stop thinking about it. Some particularly brave writing choices that might prove controversial. Some flaws in the characterisation of the women characters. Looking forward to the rest of you seeing it so we can discuss it. I am hoping that Channel 4 has some kind of follow-up documentary to come about the reality of living with HIV/AIDS now. I loved almost everything about this series except for, what I thought, were rather underwritten female characters. Compared to the boys in the Pink Palace friend group, we learned very little about Jill’s life or backstory and Ritchie’s mum’s characterisation was rather one-note. The final episode wasn’t as affecting for me as the previous four. Some aspects didn’t have the rock solid ring of authenticity that eps 1-4 most certainly did.I thought the scene with Ruth Sheen was a hard to believe misstep and felt similarly about the final conversation between Jill and Ritchie’s mother. That said, it was great to see a drama of that quality on terrestrial TV ( a rarity these days) and if the BAFTAS still exist in the future, I’m sure it’ll deservedly sweep the board.
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 4, 2021 18:35:07 GMT
I binged it all today, so maybe if I’d spaced it out week by week I’d have more emotion to invest, but... Colin’s death completely wrung me out, so there wasn’t much left for Richie I’m afraid
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Post by theatreian on Feb 5, 2021 11:30:39 GMT
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Post by alece10 on Feb 5, 2021 22:09:37 GMT
Well that was the hardest episode so far to watch. Callum Howells was superb in it.
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 5, 2021 22:12:43 GMT
No! Not Colin! He was my favourite character!
I loved his mother
That was a bit of a tough watch, wasn't it?
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Post by alece10 on Feb 5, 2021 22:15:36 GMT
The musical was funny though
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Post by SuperTrooper on Feb 5, 2021 22:15:51 GMT
It was lovely to see Delroy on my telly box.
But, I'm in pieces!
Brilliant, all round brilliant!
"Don't go home"
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Post by peggysue on Feb 5, 2021 22:17:44 GMT
Well that was the hardest episode so far to watch. Callum Howells was superb in it. That episode was totally heartbreaking, so well acted all round. Callum Howells was indeed superb.
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Post by justfran on Feb 5, 2021 22:29:54 GMT
I agree with other posters, episode 3 was brilliant and such a weepy. I really liked the portrayal of Colin’s mother and how she was just accepting of everyone, reminded me a bit of the character Sian from the film Pride (the Welsh connection probably helped!).
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Post by alece10 on Feb 5, 2021 22:39:45 GMT
I agree with other posters, episode 3 was brilliant and such a weepy. I really liked the portrayal of Colin’s mother and how she was just accepting of everyone, reminded me a bit of the character Sian from the film Pride (the Welsh connection probably helped!). Now that's a film I need to revisit soon.
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 5, 2021 22:40:46 GMT
I’m a big fan of Welsh mothers, based on my boyfriends Mum (or rather Mam) and how lovely she is
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 5, 2021 22:49:43 GMT
Not gonna lie, as much as I loved her, I was struggling to understand her.
I mean I could understand her, but I had to really listen to her.
But as I referred to in a previous post, I am still getting used to the rhythm of it.
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Post by justfran on Feb 5, 2021 22:54:19 GMT
I agree with other posters, episode 3 was brilliant and such a weepy. I really liked the portrayal of Colin’s mother and how she was just accepting of everyone, reminded me a bit of the character Sian from the film Pride (the Welsh connection probably helped!). Now that's a film I need to revisit soon. Absolutely! A great film 😊
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 5, 2021 23:08:33 GMT
Can I ask as I missed it both times I watched the series. Was Colin's mother always in a wheelchair?
I didn't notice it until she went to the hospital and couldn't remember if I'd ever seen the character standing up before that.
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Post by theatreian on Feb 5, 2021 23:09:17 GMT
Yes a great but heart breaking episode. Wonderful performances by all.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 5, 2021 23:27:58 GMT
Can I ask as I missed it both times I watched the series. Was Colin's mother always in a wheelchair? I didn't notice it until she went to the hospital and couldn't remember if I'd ever seen the character standing up before that. Yes. The actress is a wheelchair user. Using a wheelchair doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t stand or walk at all - they are mobility aids.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 5, 2021 23:29:21 GMT
I cried three times and having that particular Queen track at the end was devastating
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 5, 2021 23:30:01 GMT
Can I ask as I missed it both times I watched the series. Was Colin's mother always in a wheelchair? I didn't notice it until she went to the hospital and couldn't remember if I'd ever seen the character standing up before that. Yes. The actress is a wheelchair user. Using a wheelchair doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t stand or walk at all - they are mobility aids. I loved that her disability wasn't made into an issue. It was just part of who she was
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Post by kathryn on Feb 5, 2021 23:31:03 GMT
Oh yeah, the end credit song was a shout at the TV moment for me.
The audacity!
Russell T Davies is both a genius and a right bastard sometimes (I mean that as a compliment!).
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 6, 2021 8:18:00 GMT
A few things from last nights episode.
That lawyer was fierce wasn't she? I mean she knew her stuff!
Although a relatively small role to date, Tracey Ann Oberman was great, wasn't she.
I knew that one of the symptoms of HIV/AIDS was the lesions on the skin but I wasn't aware that it affected the brain, causing the spasms as it did to Colin. Was that a common symptom?
Did anyone else notice Chris Jenkins?
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Post by kathryn on Feb 6, 2021 10:14:07 GMT
HIV/AIDS has a huge variety of symptoms because it’s an immune deficiency, so people catch lots of opportunistic infections that can affect almost anything.
The Kaposi’s Sarcoma lesions are the most commonly associated symptom (along with weight loss, which they decided not to show because RTD was concerned about the effect of showing extreme weight loss on young audience members who struggle with eating disorders) because they are so visible and so very rare in that age group otherwise. They normally only develop in old age.
AIDS-related dementia was quite common, I believe.
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Post by alece10 on Feb 6, 2021 11:29:42 GMT
I just tried to watch It A Sin After Hours on YouTube as it featured an interview with Callum Howells but had to give up after about 5 minutes as the presenter had the most annoying voice I have ever heard. I have no idea who she is but I cant believe they have let her present a programme. My nerves just could not take her whining voice.
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Post by cherokee on Feb 6, 2021 11:41:28 GMT
I just tried to watch It A Sin After Hours on YouTube as it featured an interview with Callum Howells but had to give up after about 5 minutes as the presenter had the most annoying voice I have ever heard. I have no idea who she is but I cant believe they have let her present a programme. My nerves just could not take her whining voice. Isn't it Kemah Bob? I still haven't forgiven him/her for making me sit through their appalling performance in 'Death Drop' last December.
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Post by mkb on Feb 6, 2021 13:04:10 GMT
I just tried to watch It A Sin After Hours on YouTube as it featured an interview with Callum Howells but had to give up after about 5 minutes as the presenter had the most annoying voice I have ever heard. I have no idea who she is but I cant believe they have let her present a programme. My nerves just could not take her whining voice. I assumed it was an ill-judged attempt by a British actor to portray an American talk-show host. I wondered why it persisted for the full 15 minutes, as it wasn't funny, and was a difficult listen.
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Post by peggs on Feb 6, 2021 20:25:29 GMT
Just finished, have stayed of here in case read spoilers and now i'm just spent the last half hour furiously swearing under my breath at characters and sobbing. Kind of feels like this should be mandatory viewing if there was such a thing (and people could cope with the sex). I had no idea how little I knew about this, never covered anything in school, I think the only AIDS conversations I've had were on here when Angels in America was out or The Inheritance. I wonder if I asked younger relatives if they'd have any idea what I was talking about.
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