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Post by fiyero on Sept 17, 2020 11:32:33 GMT
They’ve just added a lot more seats for this. Mainly doubles and singles in the stalls
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Post by Dr Tom on Sept 17, 2020 12:00:14 GMT
They’ve just added a lot more seats for this. Mainly doubles and singles in the stalls Looks like they're no longer leaving every other row empty.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 12:08:41 GMT
They’ve just added a lot more seats for this. Mainly doubles and singles in the stalls Looks like they're no longer leaving every other row empty. Lol. I mean if that doesn’t show that social distancing indoors is open to interpretation, dunno what does! So all the waving of arms that theatres can only operate at 25% has given way to more like 50%. (A number that if no discounts, many West End shows could in fact turn a profit. Time to open up more widely?!) The vagueries of these corona times...
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Post by fiyero on Sept 17, 2020 12:24:07 GMT
Cinemas already aren’t. It will be interesting if anyone who only booked as it was every other row is unhappy what they will do
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 20:47:33 GMT
Further to post above - two seats directly behind mine now on sale. That's not even 1m away... Maybe 0.5m if that?
Doesn't massively bother me, but imagine this would bother some people quite considerably. And also isn't really the terms on which the ticket was originally sold in terms of (perceived) safety. And as I said above does make you wonder what exactly the measures are that they are following!
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Post by southstreet on Sept 18, 2020 8:14:19 GMT
Same for me, both seats directly in front and behind me are now on sale? Like Dom, I don't mind in terms of safety, but I do mind that I now have a head right in front of me when I was excited about having an empty row for better sight lines.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 18, 2020 8:43:52 GMT
Well I'm pleased as when tickets went on sale I couldn't get a single seat and so have just managed to get a lovely aisle stalls seat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 8:55:36 GMT
It is bonkers. They had a safety plan. They sold out. So suddenly they decided they COULD sell every row.
Open Air could have done this for JCS. Outdoors and with steep rake would be MUCH safer than having someone breathing on your neck in the Palladium!
Like I said, I am not personally especially worried, but at a time when theatres really must build trust with a tentative audience, it really isn't the one.
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Post by geraldine64 on Sept 18, 2020 13:00:19 GMT
It is bonkers. They had a safety plan. They sold out. So suddenly they decided they COULD sell every row. Open Air could have done this for JCS. Outdoors and with steep rake would be MUCH safer than having someone breathing on your neck in the Palladium! Like I said, I am not personally especially worried, but at a time when theatres really must build trust with a tentative audience, it really isn't the one. It also looks from the plan as though there is just one empty seat between bookings, which is not even 1 metre, much less 2!! I was about to book, as the test event at the Palladium looked really well done and reassuring, but will need to check this out first. If this really is the policy, which doesn't seem to be observing the guidelines (so how would they get round that?), I would sadly not consider booking, as I would not feel comfortable or confident about attending.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 13:06:06 GMT
It is bonkers. They had a safety plan. They sold out. So suddenly they decided they COULD sell every row. Open Air could have done this for JCS. Outdoors and with steep rake would be MUCH safer than having someone breathing on your neck in the Palladium! Like I said, I am not personally especially worried, but at a time when theatres really must build trust with a tentative audience, it really isn't the one. It also looks from the plan as though there is just one empty seat between bookings, which is not even 1 metre, much less 2!! I was about to book, as the test event at the Palladium looked really well done and reassuring, but will need to check this out first. If this really is the policy, which doesn't seem to be observing the guidelines (so how would they get round that?), I would sadly not consider booking, as I would not feel comfortable or confident about attending. You're right - it is only one seat between groups now. Open Air have 2 or 3. That doesn't bother me as much. Total unproven pseudoscience but I'd think having someone breath directly behind you could spread respiratory droplets into your breathing space much more than someone 2 seats away facing the same way. But yes, this really won't bring confidence to people understandably anxious about these things.
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Post by geraldine64 on Sept 18, 2020 13:28:56 GMT
Yes, I'm sure you're right, someone sitting in the row right behind would make me really uneasy. I felt completely comfortable with the set-up at both Open Air and the Bridge Theatre, and am looking forward to seeing The Last Five Years at Southwark Playhouse, which seems to have made a huge effort to reopen safely, but the rather short-sighted attitude of LW Theatres in ignoring the guidelines (and quite sneakily as well, in selling tickets in two separate tranches, so making the set-up unclear) has really put me off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 19:24:30 GMT
Has everyone forgotten that masks are compulsory, which means that 2m social distancing is not in fact required. Better, of course, but not required.
If they police everyone to ensure masks are kept on then the only issue I have is that there now might be a head in the way in front of me!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 19:42:38 GMT
I actually do understand people’s confusion or discomfort over sitting closer to a group than was originally assumed, based on the booking. I don’t think people have forgotten the masks rule, that doesn’t stop people being nervous about travelling on public transport (and understandably). As long as they’re not breaking the restrictions, I think it’s entirely fair that some are returning to normality at their own pace, some are more wary than others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 20:15:10 GMT
I actually do understand people’s confusion or discomfort over sitting closer to a group than was originally assumed, based on the booking. I don’t think people have forgotten the masks rule, that doesn’t stop people being nervous about travelling on public transport (and understandably). As long as they’re not breaking the restrictions, I think it’s entirely fair that some are returning to normality at their own pace, some are more wary than others. Oh I understand that, I meant more that it seemed people don't understand why the Palladium can perfectly legally do what they have, and I suppose someone has to be the first. It would have been much better if they had done it that way in the first place of course.
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Post by southstreet on Sept 19, 2020 10:22:05 GMT
Has everyone forgotten that masks are compulsory, which means that 2m social distancing is not in fact required. Better, of course, but not required. If they police everyone to ensure masks are kept on then the only issue I have is that there now might be a head in the way in front of me! It’s 2m if possible but still 1m+ though even with masks, so having people directly in the row in front and behind means there won’t be 1m between patrons in different groups.
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Post by intoanewlife on Sept 19, 2020 15:33:02 GMT
If they pull this stunt with Six I will be getting a refund and not going.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 15:44:56 GMT
Everyone will be temperature checked, facing away from each other and wearing masks, I really don't see any need to be concerned. This is life now and for the foreseeable future, so people just have to get used to it if they want to go out (which is of course their prerogative, but I'm not going to spend my life cooped up when I don't have any health reason to do so). Paranoia needs to be discouraged and sensible mask wearing encourage, it really isn't more difficult than that despite the hysteria of certain branches of the press.
I don't think any theatre can be blamed for trying to make a bit more revenue to survive given the government have woefully failed them, and there is clearly demand for it.
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Post by intoanewlife on Sept 19, 2020 15:56:09 GMT
Everyone will be temperature checked, facing away from each other and wearing masks, I really don't see any need to be concerned. This is life now and for the foreseeable future, so people just have to get used to it if they want to go out (which is of course their prerogative, but I'm not going to spend my life cooped up when I don't have any health reason to do so). Paranoia needs to be discouraged and sensible mask wearing encourage, it really isn't more difficult than that despite the hysteria of certain branches of the press. I don't think any theatre can be blamed for trying to make a bit more revenue to survive given the government have woefully failed them, and there is clearly demand for it. I bought my ticket on the proviso that safety measures were going to be carried out in a certain way and I was comfortable enough with them to purchase a ticket. If that changes I have every right to change my mind if 'I' don't feel safe attending when they reneged on their end of the deal. Their profit margins are not my concern, my safety and well being is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 16:31:26 GMT
Everyone will be temperature checked, facing away from each other and wearing masks, I really don't see any need to be concerned. This is life now and for the foreseeable future, so people just have to get used to it if they want to go out (which is of course their prerogative, but I'm not going to spend my life cooped up when I don't have any health reason to do so). Paranoia needs to be discouraged and sensible mask wearing encourage, it really isn't more difficult than that despite the hysteria of certain branches of the press. I don't think any theatre can be blamed for trying to make a bit more revenue to survive given the government have woefully failed them, and there is clearly demand for it. I bought my ticket on the proviso that safety measures were going to be carried out in a certain way and I was comfortable enough with them to purchase a ticket. If that changes I have every right to change my mind if 'I' don't feel safe attending when they reneged on their end of the deal. Their profit margins are not my concern, my safety and well being is. No-one is stopping you from changing your mind, but what they are doing is clearly within guidance or they wouldn't be doing it - everything is risk assessed for COVID safety at the minute (even the church I visited today!), so if it wasn't approved it wouldn't happen in a venue as high profile as this. Yes, they should have just put all the tickets on sale at the start, but it wouldn't have stopped me booking in the slightest. I see no reason to panic rather than just be sensible. I feel much safer sitting down with a mask on around other people wearing masks who have been temperature checked than I do walking down the street where people don't social distance, aren't wearing masks and might cough all over me. I do find it really hard to understand why people who are up in arms about having to sit close to someone wearing a mask aren't equally up in arms about that, but nobody seems to care about anything other than venues which are an easy target even though what they are doing has been sanctioned. Perspective and rational thinking appear to have gone out the window.
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Post by intoanewlife on Sept 19, 2020 17:06:53 GMT
I bought my ticket on the proviso that safety measures were going to be carried out in a certain way and I was comfortable enough with them to purchase a ticket. If that changes I have every right to change my mind if 'I' don't feel safe attending when they reneged on their end of the deal. Their profit margins are not my concern, my safety and well being is. No-one is stopping you from changing your mind, but what they are doing is clearly within guidance or they wouldn't be doing it - everything is risk assessed for COVID safety at the minute (even the church I visited today!), so if it wasn't approved it wouldn't happen in a venue as high profile as this. Yes, they should have just put all the tickets on sale at the start, but it wouldn't have stopped me booking in the slightest. I see no reason to panic rather than just be sensible. I feel much safer sitting down with a mask on around other people wearing masks who have been temperature checked than I do walking down the street where people don't social distance, aren't wearing masks and might cough all over me. I do find it really hard to understand why people who are up in arms about having to sit close to someone wearing a mask aren't equally up in arms about that, but nobody seems to care about anything other than venues which are an easy target even though what they are doing has been sanctioned. Perspective and rational thinking appear to have gone out the window. It's not about me, it's about other peoples behaviour. I am happy to wear a mask and be around other people who are following the rules, but from my experience this does not happen. I wear mine everywhere, even in the street and cross the road if someone is coming toward me without a mask. Frankly I don't care about this Governments 'guidance' on anything, as it is a complete joke and totally contradictory on so many levels. I have been out in a busy public space once since lockdown apart from going to the corner shop (where no one wears masks) and HAD to get a tube. Less than half the people in my carriage had masks on and every one of them looked like they were itching for a fight if anyone said a word about it. I am not willing to deal with that kinda crazy just to be in a theatre, I am quite happy to take a year out until things return to normal. I'm not up in arms about anything, y'all can do whatever you like and even if this does go ahead which I highly doubt it will anyways the way things are going, I will just get a refund if their safety measures change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 11:23:39 GMT
Have returned a top price single seat for the evening performance if anyone still looking for one!
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Post by jgblunners on Oct 6, 2020 7:51:29 GMT
Just returned a single stalls seat for the matinee - should be up for resale through the official website later today if anyone's Interested!
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Post by fiyero on Oct 11, 2020 11:23:05 GMT
Who else is on their way to this today? I’m just having a pre-match TGI Fridays before stepping foot in a End Theatre for the first time in nearly 7 Months.
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Post by alece10 on Oct 11, 2020 11:39:39 GMT
Who else is on their way to this today? I’m just having a pre-match TGI Fridays before stepping foot in a End Theatre for the first time in nearly 7 Months. I'll be leaving home shortly to be there. Quite excited
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Post by alece10 on Oct 11, 2020 14:59:57 GMT
Half time. What a show! Quite emotional as well.
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