|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 14:33:25 GMT
Does anyone know if the main cast, or even the Carnak itself, saw the actual Nile. I suspect much of the river scenes was second unit and the rest sophisticated cG/green screen, I rather enjoyed it but want to replay the last scene on the boat just to work things out again. Do you think the Nile was even in the film at all ? To me it looked way too narrow every time we saw it - even before they built the Aswan dam it must have been over 1km wide at Abu Simbel ? In the film it doesn’t look much wider than the Thames, you can always see both banks . You can see both banks of the Nile around Luxor and Aswan, or at least between one bank and an island, for the most part. It isn't that wide in that sense around those settlements. |
|
|
|
Post by Jan on Mar 7, 2022 15:11:26 GMT
Do you think the Nile was even in the film at all ? To me it looked way too narrow every time we saw it - even before they built the Aswan dam it must have been over 1km wide at Abu Simbel ? In the film it doesn’t look much wider than the Thames, you can always see both banks . You can see both banks of the Nile around Luxor and Aswan, or at least between one bank and an island, for the most part. It isn't that wide in that sense around those settlements. The average width now after Aswan is 2.8 km. The narrowest section is 350m. That’s after they built the dam though - not sure what it was before when this film was set. Looked less than that in the film mostly, especially at the fake Abu Simbel, in the early and later establishing shots maybe not. |
|
|
|
Post by interval99 on Mar 7, 2022 15:43:41 GMT
As ever now with Dame Agatha Christie productions a lot of liberties and free rein taken but her story are strong enough to take the so called improvements. Really was an amazing storyteller.
Film was enjoyable enough even while CGI to the hilt almost to superhero film standard. Just pity they didn't spend as much work on the characters half of whom get no real role.
Was reasonably full cinema possibly due to it being the only early evening slot all week. Seems now they show films all day from 9 to 5 and then from 8 onwards.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jan on Mar 7, 2022 17:03:48 GMT
As ever now with Dame Agatha Christie productions a lot of liberties and free rein taken but her story are strong enough to take the so called improvements. Really was an amazing storyteller. Film was enjoyable enough even while CGI to the hilt almost to superhero film standard. Just pity they didn't spend as much work on the characters half of whom get no real role. Was reasonably full cinema possibly due to it being the only early evening slot all week. Seems now they show films all day from 9 to 5 and then from 8 onwards. I saw it at the Riverside Studios - quite nice small screen, no riff raff, could pretend it was an art house film. . |
|
19,774 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 7, 2022 18:19:51 GMT
For fans of Agatha Christie novels I can recommend a podcast called All About Agatha, a delightfully geeky affair where her books and short stories are analysed and rated in chronological order. Forays into film and tv are included. Lovely (American) presenters who take it all very seriously but are suitably humorous at the same time. Start at the beginning or choose your favourite stories to see if you agree with their rating. it’s on all the usual platforms, here’s the episode for Death on the Nile from Soundcloud soundcloud.com/user-269339596/and-then-there-were-45-death-on-the-nile-by-agatha-christieETA: they reveal the solution to the puzzle in the discussion in case that’s important to you! |
|
|
|
Post by justfran on Apr 1, 2022 12:24:28 GMT
Now showing on Disney+
|
|
19,774 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 1, 2022 12:41:24 GMT
Ooh! Might resurrect my subscription for one month for this and West Side Story. That would be worth £7.99!
|
|
|
|
Post by justfran on Apr 2, 2022 21:08:01 GMT
Ooh! Might resurrect my subscription for one month for this and West Side Story. That would be worth £7.99! I haven’t read the book so can’t compare it but I was a bit disappointed with this new film version of Death on the Nile and wouldn’t really rush to recommend it to anyone. However, there’s lots to enjoy on Disney+ so definitely worth a month’s subscription and getting your money’s worth - enjoy 😊 |
|
|
|
Post by danb on Apr 3, 2022 9:29:05 GMT
SPOILERS:
We watched it last night. The wife enjoyed it for what it was. I sat there wincing every time it deviated from the book or the 70’s classic. I missed the smell of pear drops as a clue, I missed it being Angela Lansbury getting shot before revealing what she saw. I thought Dawn French’s devotion far too obvious. I loathed Branaghs need to bookend the film with even more scenes of him doing actoring. I absolutely loved Emma Mackie, Arm & Hammer and Gal Gadot as the central thruple. I loved Jen Saunders doing her understated Ellen Burstyn US accent and actual acting. I appreciated Russel Brands lack of screen time. Its a much better tale than ‘Murder on the Orient Express’, but felt longer and much less dramatic than Branaghs stab at that. I really don’t need to see any more of him as Poirot. Soz Ken.
|
|
|
|
Post by craig on Apr 3, 2022 10:22:14 GMT
I’m glad it’s not just me who finds Branagh a bit tiresome as Poirot. Both films have been fun, overblown, star-filled romps, but the Poirot backstory stuff has left me eye rolling. His performance takes things a little too seriously for me, too. I can’t imagine David Suchet ever being bettered.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2022 15:12:30 GMT
I'm a massive Agatha Christie and Poirot fan but I can't get on with the Branagh remakes. Death on the Nile was a little better than Orient Express, but in both movies none of the changes add anything. And in Niles case I actually think it makes the murderer more obvious from very early on. The CGI also varied from realistic to computer game.
The actress from Sex Education as Jacqui was a standout though, she really shone.
|
|
950 posts
Member is Online
|
Post by vdcni on Apr 3, 2022 20:15:58 GMT
I'll watch it now its on Disney+ but really without Angela Lansbury what is the point!
|
|
|
|
Post by crabtree on Apr 3, 2022 21:14:43 GMT
well this answers my question from a while ago.
|
|
5,707 posts
|
Post by lynette on Apr 5, 2022 22:41:29 GMT
Better than I expected but I still prefer the other version…
|
|
4,028 posts
|
Post by Dawnstar on Apr 6, 2022 16:12:58 GMT
well this answers my question from a while ago. So pretty much the whole thing is CGI scenery-wise? I don't much point in watching then. You might as well just watch an animated film if they're equally fake! |
|
1,483 posts
|
Post by steve10086 on Apr 6, 2022 18:14:08 GMT
well this answers my question from a while ago. So pretty much the whole thing is CGI scenery-wise? I don't much point in watching then. You might as well just watch an animated film if they're equally fake! I stopped watching anything with Superman in it when I discovered he doesn’t actually fly, and it’s all done with special effects! Can’t be doing with all this movie fakery!! |
|
|
|
Post by Jan on Apr 6, 2022 19:13:49 GMT
well this answers my question from a while ago. So pretty much the whole thing is CGI scenery-wise? I don't much point in watching then. You might as well just watch an animated film if they're equally fake! On the other hand I’d have preferred a CGI actor to the quite breathtakingly miscast Russell Brand. He has his place but this wasn’t it. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2022 19:24:59 GMT
|
|
4,028 posts
|
Post by Dawnstar on Apr 6, 2022 21:14:17 GMT
So pretty much the whole thing is CGI scenery-wise? I don't much point in watching then. You might as well just watch an animated film if they're equally fake! I stopped watching anything with Superman in it when I discovered he doesn’t actually fly, and it’s all done with special effects! Can’t be doing with all this movie fakery!! I feel the difference is that since humans can't fly without mechanical assistance the only way to show it on screen is to fake it in some way. Whereas it's perfectly possible to sail a boat on a real river so faking it is a lot less justified in my opinion. |
|
1,483 posts
|
Post by steve10086 on Apr 6, 2022 21:56:57 GMT
I stopped watching anything with Superman in it when I discovered he doesn’t actually fly, and it’s all done with special effects! Can’t be doing with all this movie fakery!! I feel the difference is that since humans can't fly without mechanical assistance the only way to show it on screen is to fake it in some way. Whereas it's perfectly possible to sail a boat on a real river so faking it is a lot less justified in my opinion. Every scene in a car where the moving background is added, or every huge crowd scene where CGI people are added, would be perfectly possible without “faking it”. But these are movies, they are inherently “fake”, they aren’t documentaries. I really don’t see the issue. |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 6:08:48 GMT
There's no issue when it's done well, but death in the nile often looked like cgi from over 20 years ago.
And as the 70s version showed, you can't beat filming on location for authenticity.
|
|
|
|
Post by jojo on Apr 7, 2022 7:57:49 GMT
The CGI wasn't great, but the boat was. A half and half approach would have been better.
Overall it was an enjoyable enough watch, but share the sentiment that I could have done without Branagh padding his part. I'd rather the time was used to get to know some of the suspects a bit better.
My main criticism was that I just don't see Arnie Hammer's character as attractive or interesting enough to be the subject of obsession of not one, but two very attractive and seemingly bright women.
|
|
|
|
Post by d'James on Apr 8, 2022 0:46:09 GMT
Just watched this.
The camerawork/direction was the worst thing for me: one by one forming a diagonal line so the camera can see you; cameras going in circles; from one window to another and back again?! I felt a bit queasy at times.
This looked like the narrowest boat in history yet the communal areas were plenty wide.
It was a strange mix of accents. I thought Jennifer Saunders’s was one of the best.
Kenneth Branagh does not a good Poirot make - well, he certainly doesn’t have the charisma of Ustinov, Suchet or Finney.
Emma Mackey was definitely a standout.
Somehow, with a cast of characters, the director has elicited a performance of nobodies.
A Tragedy of Accents. Two Stars.
|
|
5,707 posts
|
Post by lynette on Apr 8, 2022 12:50:19 GMT
Have to agree with some of the above. One thing that puzzles me: why does the spurned lover follow them around etc. surely if they had planned to bump off the heiress then they could have waited til they had settled into their country estate and she could have choked on a bone, fell off a cliff, had accident rising, been cut with a kitchen appliance etc etc. I’m just not into the plot. And the Suchet makes it much clearer how it was done. The paint thing doesn’t wash ( see what I did there?) In the Suchet we have nail polish, referred to in this one, pointlessly.
|
|
7,175 posts
Member is Online
|
Post by Jon on Apr 8, 2022 13:13:45 GMT
Filming on water is both tricky and expensive so I can see why they opted to use CGI.
|
|
