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Post by amp09 on Aug 22, 2019 20:37:52 GMT
I was at the matinee as well. I think AddisonMizner is right in that it doesn't have the emotional punch. High energy in abundance and spectacular, but something was missing. I have to say, too, that it didn't sit easily with me that the audience were whooping and cheering at the end of "Jesus Christ Superstar" - which was, after all, the crucifixion scene. Probably just me ..... Although I love the rock score, I wasn't blown away by any performer. Ricardo came close, performance wise, but unfortunately I couldn't understand a word he was singing. Thank goodness I knew the story! Ricardo was incredible. Agree on the whooping at a critical point in the show.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 23, 2019 9:55:02 GMT
I agree - I think Ricardo is consistently excellent and I actually prefer his diction to the rather more polished vowels of Zubin Varla (who is now my second favourite "Judas").
Regarding the cheering at the end of "Superstar", I think it is entirely appropriate. For me it is the much needed emotional release and recognition for the cast at the high point of the show. I see this as a critical "fourth wall" moment because you go straight into "where is my mother, I'm thirsty... it is finished" which is heartbreaking, and creates audience guilt having applauded the mockery and humiliation. We know it's just a show, a story, yet deep in some of our inner psyche it is a true story which provokes deep theological questions and discussions. It's that odd dichotomy of west end flash and bling meeting the desolation and despair of humanity head-on. It forces us to look into our souls and feel a little bit uncomfortable about the whole thing, which is no bad thing in itself. I'm probably reading too much into things, but for me this show transcends typical storytelling and narrative and poses deeper questions than are as relevant to today as they were in Christ's time (if you are a believer).
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Post by ruby88 on Aug 23, 2019 10:42:57 GMT
I was at yesterday's matinee. I loved this production and wish I could see it again. Ricardo Afonso and Robert Tripolino were excellent and the whole cast gave it everything they had. A two-show day must be exhausting, especially for the dancers. I was pleasantly surprised by Matt Cardle too; I thought he played the role of Pilate well and his acting was believable. I took the advice of some posters on here and booked the left side of the stalls - brilliant views of the Last Supper tableau and the Crucifixion. I liked the contemporary feel too, with the clothing and the use of the mics portraying Jesus as a celebrity rock-star type figure. The glitter and silver paint was also a unique touch and very effective.
The couple sitting next me displayed some bad audience behaviour, unfortunately. I have no idea why the woman, in particular, came to see the show as she clearly didn't want to be there. She was slouched so far down in her seat that she was almost horizontal and seemed to be asleep during some parts. Constant fidgeting, talking, loud sighing, rustling her crisp packet and loud chewing. In Act Two, she had her head in her hands during the trial of Jesus (through boredom, not emotion) and her partner laughed loudly at inappropriate times (after the betrayal scene) and during the applause after each song, he shouted random comments to the stranger next to him. It was bizarre and the cast must have noticed.
But anyway, it was a brilliant show and I'm glad I chose to see this instead of Joseph at the Palladium. Would love a cast recording so I can experience Ricardo's amazing vocals again.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 23, 2019 10:49:18 GMT
I was at yesterday's matinee. I loved this production and wish I could see it again. Ricardo Afonso and Robert Tripolino were excellent and the whole cast gave it everything they had. A two-show day must be exhausting, especially for the dancers. I was pleasantly surprised by Matt Cardle too; I thought he played the role of Pilate well and his acting was believable. I took the advice of some posters on here and booked the left side of the stalls - brilliant views of the Last Supper tableau and the Crucifixion. I liked the contemporary feel too, with the clothing and the use of the mics portraying Jesus as a celebrity rock-star type figure. The glitter and silver paint was also a unique touch and very effective. The couple sitting next me displayed some bad audience behaviour, unfortunately. I have no idea why the woman, in particular, came to see the show as she clearly didn't want to be there. She was slouched so far down in her seat that she was almost horizontal and seemed to be asleep during some parts. Constant fidgeting, talking, loud sighing, rustling her crisp packet and loud chewing. In Act Two, she had her head in her hands during the trial of Jesus (through boredom, not emotion) and her partner laughed loudly at inappropriate times (after the betrayal scene) and during the applause after each song, he shouted random comments to the stranger next to him. It was bizarre and the cast must have noticed.
But anyway, it was a brilliant show and I'm glad I chose to see this instead of Joseph at the Palladium. Would love a cast recording so I can experience Ricardo's amazing vocals again. @theatremonkey and lynette on the annual staff outing. Sadly the rest of the team couldn’t make it 🙂
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Post by ceebee on Aug 23, 2019 13:04:23 GMT
Funny you should mention bad behaviour... I've noticed at JCS and at Evita yesterday how one or two people (always near the front stalls in the eyeline of the actors) can't resist chair-dancing and mouthing the lyrics. Not only is this disrespectful to the performers and the production, it's very selfish and shows an astonishing lack of self-awareness. Such people either genuinely don't care, or perhaps have a need to be the centre of attention. Probably one for the bad behaviour thread but it seems today's "selfie" culture means that the idea of talking, taking pics, etc. during performances is becoming more frequent.
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Post by longinthetooth on Aug 23, 2019 14:48:55 GMT
Funny you should mention bad behaviour... I've noticed at JCS and at Evita yesterday how one or two people (always near the front stalls in the eyeline of the actors) can't resist chair-dancing and mouthing the lyrics. Not only is this disrespectful to the performers and the production, it's very selfish and shows an astonishing lack of self-awareness. Such people either genuinely don't care, or perhaps have a need to be the centre of attention. Probably one for the bad behaviour thread but it seems today's "selfie" culture means that the idea of talking, taking pics, etc. during performances is becoming more frequent. You are right, there was someone in front of me yesterday who was bouncing around, grinning, pointing and nudging her friends at certain points. It came across as "we know something you don't know, we are 'in' with members of the cast".
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Post by yokollama on Aug 23, 2019 15:53:55 GMT
I saw it again for the second time earlier this week and fell further in love, though I do prefer Rosie's voice as Mary.
I'm disappointed - but perhaps none more so than the cast - that there won't be a cast recording to preserve this production. And Ricardo's performance.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 23, 2019 17:09:42 GMT
I saw it again for the second time earlier this week and fell further in love, though I do prefer Rosie's voice as Mary. I'm disappointed - but perhaps none more so than the cast - that there won't be a cast recording to preserve this production. And Ricardo's performance. Has this been confirmed? Such a shame not to capture a proper recording of it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:11:34 GMT
They never record anything in the UK..... Don't even get me started!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:13:06 GMT
someone going to the last performance needs to slip the soundboard guy a few quid....
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Post by miz on Aug 23, 2019 17:20:11 GMT
Alison, yes, it is! Well dug out. Thank you very much. That was a pretty special night. I still can't believe that night happened.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:34:29 GMT
Out of interest, does anyone know who did the orchestrations for this version? Neither of the Open Air run programmes nor Barbican run programme have said - only MD is listed. (Interestingly current Evita programme does credit ALW/David Cullen).
I think is the ALW 1996 ones but cannot be sure!
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Post by ceebee on Aug 23, 2019 18:01:32 GMT
Out of interest, does anyone know who did the orchestrations for this version? Neither of the Open Air run programmes nor Barbican run programme have said - only MD is listed. (Interestingly current Evita programme does credit ALW/David Cullen). I think is the ALW 1996 ones but cannot be sure! I thought that Tom Deering had built on the original orchestrations - I might be wrong. I seem to remember seeing a video of him talking about getting the show back to basics.
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Post by yokollama on Aug 23, 2019 18:13:26 GMT
I saw it again for the second time earlier this week and fell further in love, though I do prefer Rosie's voice as Mary. I'm disappointed - but perhaps none more so than the cast - that there won't be a cast recording to preserve this production. And Ricardo's performance. Has this been confirmed? Such a shame not to capture a proper recording of it. Not officially. I only had a chat at stage door with both Ricardo and Robert, and was told it most likely won't get the go-ahead. You can hear the disappointment in Ricardo's voice. I'm still holding out for a tiny slither of hope, and am glad the show is selling so well in its final stretch.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 23, 2019 18:19:28 GMT
One gallery seat for matinee tomorrow on Barbican website if anybody wants it.
EDIT: It's now gone.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 23, 2019 18:22:15 GMT
Has this been confirmed? Such a shame not to capture a proper recording of it. Not officially. I only had a chat at stage door with both Ricardo and Robert, and was told it most likely won't get the go-ahead. You can hear the disappointment in Ricardo's voice. I'm still holding out for a tiny slither of hope, and am glad the show is selling so well in its final stretch. Sounds pretty concrete to me. Thanks for sharing this info. Most sound desks can record straight to USB... Hmmm...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 9:27:21 GMT
So I can't think of any limited West End run of any ALW show that has ever had a cast recording sadly. In fact no revivals have ever had one, other than those that didn't have an official RUG/Really Useful Records pre-existing one (the Tim Rice ones basically - 1991 Joseph, Lyceum JCS and Adelphi Evita). (3 semi exceptions - Starlight Express got recorded again when they launched the 1992 'new' London version; and the one offs of Sarah Brightman in Song and Dance and the Phantom RAH concert did get released). Am sure have forgotten stuff - let me know! So it REALLY would have broken the mould if JCS had had one. Thinking about it though - even though we on here are desperate for a recording of the Barbican cast, I can totally see how a full CD polished recording would not be profitable. Joe Public has never heard of these people and there are a million cast recordings out there. Must say though, in this day and age, how hard can it be to take a sound board recording, tidy it up a bit and release it as a digital only version for say a tenner or less. Doesn't need to be a full release at all. But when they have so many fans desperate for them to make one, would this not be a fairly easy thing for them to do? And generate much good will. I do think as ALW fans we don't get rewarded much. Other shows do lots for the fans. (I am asking the question, I have no idea of the physical process of doing this!). Surely can't be that expensive to do this though, so even if only 1000 people bought it, would still turn a small profit. Or even a CD that they sold only at the theatre or through their website. I really wish people were a bit more creative now - surely in 2019 there is the technology to do this very easily. (I do know though that ALW is OBSESSED re quality of his work that is out there. The 25th version of Starlight in Bochum was recorded and was not released until two years later as it kept going backwards and forwards at RUG before they would sign it off. We are now in the same problem with the 30th version. That was recored over a year ago but no sign of it being released). ANYWAY, ceebee you are bribing the sound guy tonight and then distributing to us tomorrow, right? Can't wait ;-) !!
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Post by ceebee on Aug 24, 2019 10:01:37 GMT
So I can't think of any limited West End run of any ALW show that has ever had a cast recording sadly. In fact no revivals have ever had one, other than those that didn't have an official RUG/Really Useful Records pre-existing one (the Tim Rice ones basically - 1991 Joseph, Lyceum JCS and Adelphi Evita). (3 semi exceptions - Starlight Express got recorded again when they launched the 1992 'new' London version; and the one offs of Sarah Brightman in Song and Dance and the Phantom RAH concert did get released). Am sure have forgotten stuff - let me know! So it REALLY would have broken the mould if JCS had had one. Thinking about it though - even though we on here are desperate for a recording of the Barbican cast, I can totally see how a full CD polished recording would not be profitable. Joe Public has never heard of these people and there are a million cast recordings out there. Must say though, in this day and age, how hard can it be to take a sound board recording, tidy it up a bit and release it as a digital only version for say a tenner or less. Doesn't need to be a full release at all. But when they have so many fans desperate for them to make one, would this not be a fairly easy thing for them to do? And generate much good will. I do think as ALW fans we don't get rewarded much. Other shows do lots for the fans. (I am asking the question, I have no idea of the physical process of doing this!). Surely can't be that expensive to do this though, so even if only 1000 people bought it, would still turn a small profit. Or even a CD that they sold only at the theatre or through their website. I really wish people were a bit more creative now - surely in 2019 there is the technology to do this very easily. (I do know though that ALW is OBSESSED re quality of his work that is out there. The 25th version of Starlight in Bochum was recorded and was not released until two years later as it kept going backwards and forwards at RUG before they would sign it off. We are now in the same problem with the 30th version. That was recored over a year ago but no sign of it being released). ANYWAY, ceebee you are bribing the sound guy tonight and then distributing to us tomorrow, right? Can't wait ;-) !! :-) I wouldn't even risk it! Plus the sounddesk is enclosed at the Barbican - an open desk might facilitate an "exchange". ;-) In terms of recording direct from the desk, it is easily possible - I've done it, legitimately, to preserve a charity panto last year. However, you sacrifice the post-production polish and quality, and as you say ALW is obsessive about maintaining the quality and integrity of his notes. Interestingly, I would compare this production with the Drew Sarich production in Austria which was recorded. Probably different licencing agreements. I'm surprised that OAT haven't tried harder to preserve this one in some form, as they have done for less popular shows.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 10:52:12 GMT
Moby Dick was recorded just for the cast, and that somehow managed to get released, and it's a pretty good recording of the show. I know I'm dreaming, but would love for the same to happen for this.
I'm looking forward to hearing reports from the final performance. The atmosphere should be electric.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 24, 2019 10:54:31 GMT
Moby Dick was recorded just for the cast, and that somehow managed to get released, and it's a pretty good recording of the show. I know I'm dreaming, but would love for the same to happen for this. I'm looking forward to hearing reports from the final performance. The atmosphere should be electric. I'll be sure to feed back. I always approach last nights with a mixture of excitement and sadness. I know when the reality will hit me too - when the curtain opens for the second half, as I've always felt that the big jaws of the Barbican curtain opening with the last supper is almost epic and cinematic in its nature.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Aug 24, 2019 12:18:13 GMT
Backstage tour a perfect aperitif for today’s matinee.
The way they have configured the stage the amount of room for the ensemble is relatively tiny, the area the dancers have makes it even more impressive especially how busy I found it last time.
I’m sure the cleaners are happy today is the last day as the glitter was everywhere including the backstage stairwells.
In the gallery this afternoon, a cheap way to wallow in the music and get a panoramic perspective.
Coincidentally this is what I did for Follies at the National earlier in the year, for plays have to be in the first few rows to take in the subtleties of the acting, for musicals am veering towards being further away to take in the spectacle.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Aug 24, 2019 15:30:23 GMT
Definitely didn’t disappoint on second viewing and the choreography was significantly enhanced with a birds eye view.
On the cast recording question, would likely stream it but not buy it, given the audience in the thousands who attended it either at the Outdoor or Barbican Theatres, outside of these is there a market to recoup the costs, how many people here actually bought the Follies CD or just streamed it a few times.
As an aside was surprised at how many people around me were trying to put together the Easter story, maybe we are now a secular Country, having discarded religion as soon as I could think for myself but having been a Sunday School attendee and RE classes at school, have always assumed that knowledge of the Bible was a given.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 17:06:50 GMT
@neilvhughes I think the problem is compounded by it being sung through. We are rather plopped into the action.
Very jealous of everyone seeing this today. Am in the final leg of a rather longer than it needed to be journey. Husband decided to book train tickets from Nantes, inspite of it being a much longer drive south, and consequently a longer train journey north. Hey ho. I hope you all have an amazing night.
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Post by jgblunners on Aug 24, 2019 21:44:09 GMT
Wow, that was something truly special. So glad I got to see it one last time, the cast gave 110% and the atmosphere was incredible! Tim Sheader and Tom Scutt (director and designer) were sat a couple of rows behind me.
I won't do a full review again, but just a few observations: my other visit was the final preview and tonight I could really tell how much Rob Tripolino and Matt Cardle's voices had settled. Both were fantastic the first time round but tonight Rob Tripolino had more power behind his high notes and rock screams (and went for more of them in Gethsemane than in previews) and Matt Cardle properly hit and sustained the money note on the transition into Superstar, which the previous time round he had just done a brief rock scream on. Ricardo Afonso didn't really have any room for improvement from before in terms of technique, but he turned the power up to 11.
Very sad to see this production go. Fingers crossed that this isn't the end.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 24, 2019 22:43:40 GMT
I echo JGBlunners thoughts.
This was a very special last night, charged to the max, adrenaline in abundance and lots of tears at the end.
I felt Jesus' falsetto screeches were effective but there's no way he could do that every night. It'd shred his voice. I think he gave everything and more tonight and deserved his prolonged applause.
Mary knocked it out the park tonight - just superb in IDKHTLH. Beautiful.
Annas was on fire, and Caiaphas was as resonant and mellow as ever.
Pilate was excellent and as jgblunners said, he nailed the "puppet" slide into Superstar.
I'm running out of superlatives for Judas. Ricardo Afonso is vocally perfect (crystal clear diction this evening).
This show will be missed by many, and the love between the actors, musicians and audience tonight was palpable.
Well done to all, and thank you.
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