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Post by sparky5000 on Jun 1, 2020 22:49:16 GMT
- As much as I really enjoyed Six, the live singing of the cast I saw was at times, really bad
- Company was massively overrated
- Adrienne Warren was robbed the Olivier award
- Ashley Roberts was a really endearing Dawn
- No, certain West End performers shouldn’t be cast in EVERYTHING just because theatre snobs say so
- Carrie Hope Fletcher is unfairly maligned by some and is super talented and doesn’t get enough credit for it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 8:04:57 GMT
Salad Days pisses all over every British musical ever written
Wicked is spoilt by everyone on the front row (yes we know you know the songs)
Whom ever played the pharaoh to Joe Mcelderry’s Joseph at Brighton theatre royal should be kicked out of equity. If you’re gonna look THAT bored and put in ZERO effort at a matinee then you should have let someone else have a go. Never have I been more annoyed by a “performer”, it was embarrassing
f*** H&S let’s have a proper Starlight Express revival. They could have a rolling broken bone counter on the marquee!
Merrily We Roll Along is dreadful. Start a musical with conflict and then progressively remove it until you end with a non climax. If it ever gets revived I’m standing outside and booing the whole run
If the old can’t go to the theatre and the young can’t afford it then it will be down to the lgbt community to keep it afloat. Get ready for a load gay musical revivals
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Post by Dave25 on Jun 2, 2020 8:34:08 GMT
Hamilton is a very mediocre show, a mishmash of styles and moments and musical cliche's. Headflips on last chords, characters coming out of nowhere singing 1 song, incoherent songs and scenes. Very uninspiring songs (some songs are all on 1 note). It's like a parody. A show like RENT is 100 times better in that regard.
Ramin Karimloo can't sing. He moos, lows and wails in straight hysterical tones above the actual note. He butchers songs to the point where not 1 note is on key and he creates completely new melodies. Totally unacceptable.
John Owen Jones is underrated. His is a master of the craft with a golden voice and ability to act through sung notes. Everything he does is mesmerizing and touches me. The essence of this art.
The show Dear Evan Hansen should not be allowed. It gives off the message that using the victim role to get what you want is acceptable which is a terrible message for young people.
I think that casting deliberately on race is racist and so is deliberately putting poc in every project of at least 2. We should start thinking in human. This is not the right way to do that.
Musicalfilms could be the best thing in the world in the right hands. Usually, they become disasters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 8:47:23 GMT
I think that casting deliberately on race is racist and so is deliberately putting poc in every project of at least 2. We should start thinking in human. This is not the right way to do that. I just looked it up and over 16% of this nation are “POC” so if there is a cast of 20 then there really should be at least 3 non white people in it, you know, just to represent themselves in society as they statistically are. or we could just keep it all white to make sure every white person is 100% comfortable? Also you should prob turn on a tv or read the news as your comments are at best a little off for what’s going on right now
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 8:49:38 GMT
Wicked is spoilt by everyone on the front row (yes we know you know the songs) tenor.com/M2yI.gif(i don't know how to attach gifs!!)
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Post by pianowithsam on Jun 2, 2020 10:05:04 GMT
Six is one of the worst shows to ever come out of the West End.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 2, 2020 10:19:51 GMT
Six is one of the worst shows to ever come out of the West End. YASSS! Its not even a musical. I don’t think it should be classed as one. There’s no story and no acting.
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Post by poster J on Jun 2, 2020 10:23:15 GMT
I think that casting deliberately on race is racist and so is deliberately putting poc in every project of at least 2. We should start thinking in human. This is not the right way to do that. I'm not sure I've ever seen a more tone deaf, inappropriate and point-missing post on this forum than that. I would post many of the excellent educational resources on white privilege and the true extent of racism that are currently circulating the internet, but I think that should be the topic of a separate thread as it is hugely important but not on the topic of this one.
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Post by pianowithsam on Jun 2, 2020 10:24:45 GMT
Six is one of the worst shows to ever come out of the West End. YASSS! Its not even a musical. I don’t think it should be classed as one. There’s no story and no acting. Absolutely. I mean, I do think the idea is pretty cool. However, the execution (no pun intended) is just appalling and redefines the meaning of cringey pop trash.
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 2, 2020 11:59:15 GMT
Thank goodness we have this thread here to allow members to be a little racist. Oh well, truth hurts!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 2, 2020 12:11:52 GMT
I think that casting deliberately on race is racist and so is deliberately putting poc in every project of at least 2. We should start thinking in human. This is not the right way to do that. I'm not sure I've ever seen a more tone deaf, inappropriate and point-missing post on this forum than that. I would post many of the excellent educational resources on white privilege and the true extent of racism that are currently circulating the internet, but I think that should be the topic of a separate thread as it is hugely important but not on the topic of this one. yes can we not have the casting/race discussion again on this thread please. Dave25 most of us know your views on this, you’ve repeated them ad infinitum in numerous threads in the past and you already know that most people here entirely disagree with you. If you really must have the discussion again start a dedicated thread but be aware that the mods will be all over it and as soon as it descends into arguing and name calling, which is 99% certain, it will be closed.
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Post by pianowithsam on Jun 2, 2020 12:22:57 GMT
• Mischief Theatre should publicly apologise for the terrible performance on the Royal Variety last year.
• Charlie & The Chocolate Factory should have run for longer at Theatre Royal and should have toured afterwards.
• Young Frankenstein definitely should have toured.
• Hamilton is boring.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 12:29:22 GMT
I much preferred Six at the Edinburgh Fringe and on it’s 1st UK Tour. When I eventually got to see it in the West End and on it’s 2nd UK Tour some of the magic of the previous production had been lost.
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Post by greeny11 on Jun 2, 2020 16:48:29 GMT
Hamilton is the most overrated piece of theatre I have seen - and I could not understand half the lyrics as they were rapped. The score was forgettable.
Follies is the most boring piece of theatre I have watched in a long time - the cast were good though. It is the only show I have ever fallen asleep in.
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Post by elizapot on Jun 2, 2020 17:15:51 GMT
Everybody’s Talking About Jamie is not a very good show, mainly due to the spectacularly unmemorable songs
Phantom is still the most visually impressive show on the West End and generally hasn’t aged poorly at all
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 2, 2020 18:17:27 GMT
Chess is massively underrated, the book is fine, the ENO production was fabulous. If you didn’t like it, you’re jealous of Michael Ball 🙂
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Post by pianowithsam on Jun 2, 2020 18:25:58 GMT
Hamilton is the most overrated piece of theatre I have seen - and I could not understand half the lyrics as they were rapped. The score was forgettable. Follies is the most boring piece of theatre I have watched in a long time - the cast were good though. It is the only show I have ever fallen asleep in. If you want another nap, try Sound of Music.
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Post by danb on Jun 2, 2020 19:39:44 GMT
Chess is massively underrated, the book is fine, the ENO production was fabulous. If you didn’t like it, you’re jealous of Michael Ball 🙂 Chess in massively ‘underwritten’? Something has been missing for 36 years and I’m still not sure what it is. Is underwritten the right word? The music is sublime, the book adequate. Short of making it about something else I’m not sure how re-arranging the words, order of the scenes, shifts in focus, direction etc could change anything. I didn’t see the ENO production so maybe this was the one to make sense of it? The casting wasn’t enough to draw me the 150 miles to town so I guess I missed out.
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Post by originalconceptlive on Jun 2, 2020 21:57:23 GMT
I really like Chess too. Personally I think things go a bit awry book-wise in Act 2; the show tries too hard to make it seem as though too many characters are playing an 'intricate game', when the key plot points are actually pretty straightforward. It makes no sense for the USSR to enlist Freddie to convince Anatoly to do anything, he would have no pull with Anatoly. But this is getting into separate thread territory I guess.
Back on topic:
'Next to Normal' is nothing special, and its ending does not work.
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Post by d'James on Jun 3, 2020 0:49:01 GMT
Chess is massively underrated, the book is fine, the ENO production was fabulous. If you didn’t like it, you’re jealous of Michael Ball 🙂 It was a five star production of a one star show.
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Post by vickyg on Jun 3, 2020 8:31:15 GMT
Everybody’s Talking About Jamie is not a very good show, mainly due to the spectacularly unmemorable songs I have only seen Jamie once, but used to listen obsessively to most of the cast recording, so I do like the songs. Where it really lets itself down is the end of the first half, I was expecting so much more and I went into the interview thinking the show was cheap. The second half rescued it for me, but first half is definitely weak. They have also never had a Jamie with a voice that anywhere near stands up to the West End. Josie Walker was the most talented cast member by some distance.
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Post by ABr on Jun 3, 2020 8:57:17 GMT
Everybody’s Talking About Jamie is not a very good show, mainly due to the spectacularly unmemorable songs I have only seen Jamie once, but used to listen obsessively to most of the cast recording, so I do like the songs. Where it really lets itself down is the end of the first half, I was expecting so much more and I went into the interview thinking the show was cheap. The second half rescued it for me, but first half is definitely weak. I completely agree with you on this one! I saw the show during its Sheffield run, and we said that the close of Act 1 was one of the weakest parts of the show, just didn't have the impact that it should have! So when it was transferring I was hoping that that some changes would be made to improve it, but sadly not!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 3, 2020 9:47:34 GMT
Chess reminds that I'm adding the Grade Linnet ENO productions to my room 101
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Post by theatregeek on Jun 3, 2020 10:46:02 GMT
Hamilton was such a snooze-fest after the first half hour and Everybody's Talking About Jamie managed to get hyped up somehow but so disappointing.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 3, 2020 11:00:46 GMT
I have only seen Jamie once, but used to listen obsessively to most of the cast recording, so I do like the songs. Where it really lets itself down is the end of the first half, I was expecting so much more and I went into the interview thinking the show was cheap. The second half rescued it for me, but first half is definitely weak. I completely agree with you on this one! I saw the show during its Sheffield run, and we said that the close of Act 1 was one of the weakest parts of the show, just didn't have the impact that it should have! So when it was transferring I was hoping that that some changes would be made to improve it, but sadly not! How would they manage to get the actor into full glam drag for a big reveal though in that short time? That's why it's only a projection/video, because the logistics don't work out. Though i suppose you could then say well then it should be written in a way that he's off stage for 10 minutes or something then.
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Post by ABr on Jun 3, 2020 11:23:16 GMT
I completely agree with you on this one! I saw the show during its Sheffield run, and we said that the close of Act 1 was one of the weakest parts of the show, just didn't have the impact that it should have! So when it was transferring I was hoping that that some changes would be made to improve it, but sadly not! How would they manage to get the actor into full glam drag for a big reveal though in that short time? That's why it's only a projection/video, because the logistics don't work out. Though i suppose you could then say well then it should be written in a way that he's off stage for 10 minutes or something then. I was thinking more then anything that the song is poor, it conveys the right meaning for the moment, but musically its not the best. The projection wasn't there at Sheffield, so the addition to that for the London run was very welcome. Its just such a big moment for Jamie and for the story they are telling, and for me I think it slightly misses the mark. To be honest in the right hands, drag make up can be done quickly, but then it is a lot of effort for a finale moment, then the interval, so there has got to be some compromises!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 13:49:43 GMT
Rodgers and Hammerstein are a total bore.
Carrie Hope-Fletcher is vastly overrated. Yes she can sing but some acting skills would help. Her Fantine in the staged concert is completely blank and lifeless.
Patti LuPone has become a caricature of herself.
No one cares if the 3rd cover midwife is on that day.
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Post by the_f_g_p on Jun 3, 2020 16:28:49 GMT
I've been reading this thread for a few days now and I had to laugh heartily a few times. Thanks a lot for this!!!
But why doesn't anyone think of the most annoying and untalented singer on the musical stages: Kristin Chenoweth?!?
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 3, 2020 17:03:58 GMT
I thought Rosalind Russell was great as Mama Rose. I don’t care that she didn’t sing all of it. I think it was better for it 😱. Barbra Streisand should never have been cast in Hello Dolly and she was terrible in it.😖 Kinky Boots should never have been made into a musical. 🤫 Michael Crawford had a lucky break in POTO, and his performance wouldn’t stand up to scrutiny today.😷 Book Of Mormon would not make it past the workshop stage today. And even if it did, no producer would touch it. 👹 Sarah Harding wasnt as bad as people said in Ghost. 👻 Over to you...
good taste. I agree with all of these!
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 3, 2020 17:05:54 GMT
Hamilton and Book of Mormon both massively overrated. Rent Remixed was actually ok 100%!!!!!!!
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