Coronavirus General Discussion

I certainly don’t want to see an unvaccinated doctor. I was annoyed enough this week when Virgin Media sent an unvaccinated engineer to our house, to do a job they (not we) decided needed to be done. Unvaccinated people aren’t welcome in our home, and we ended up with no choice.

I have several friends and family members that aren't vaccinated and I still spend time with all of them. I have more of an issue with people that don't test regularly, especially when they have any kind of cold symptoms, and that don't wear masks when in indoor public spaces as those are much more likely to unknowingly (or uncaringly) spread Covid around than unvaccinated people that take all possible other precautions.

So for me personally, I'd rather sit next to a tested and masked up unvaccinated person in a theatre, than a vaxxed person that didn't test and doesn't wear a mask. All three would obviously be ideal and that is definitely what I am currently doing.

As hairspray57 has already said, while vaccines do not stop the spread of covid, most research indicates they reduce it. I think it's unethical to put patients at an increased risk of catching a potentially fatal disease while they're having medical procedures, due to unvaccinated medical staff.

I did, but I'm still disappointed that Virgin would allow engineers, who go into people's homes, to remain unvaccinated. If we have to have someone come again, I'm planning on insisting that they send someone vaccinated, or refusing the work. 

I do find it a little weird that people are insisting people have a medical procedure.

Its none of peoples business if someone is vaccinated or not. Regardless of me being pro vaccine, i absolutely am against vaccine mandates.

Whats next, a 'flu free' clear all on an app? Attacking people who only have two doses and not a booster? its the thin edge of the wedge.

I think NHS and care staff workers should have their concerns addressed and regular testing as a secondary option. No one should be forced to take a vaccine or medicine they dont want to take ( and i think making someone unemployed is forcing them)

I dont disagree but there is a big difference between coercion and persuasion.

I just think its a hop and step away from trying to stop getting service from other conditions e.t.c. Now we are in the 17th Day of reductions in cases, its not even a growing epidemic anymore, so i find it strange to mess up morale in the NHS like this.     

Isn’t it the surge here which has now spilled over to there?

Spilled over may be the wrong term.
Maybe more a “trend” that can be tracked to multiple places over different timescales

I live in East London and have been getting and continue to get daily deliveries when there is actually post for me.

I have better things to do than keep a look out for the postman every day, mind you (and I'm sometimes in the office), so I can't guarantee it, but I haven't noticed any change in the service level.

So... catching a cold means you're less likely to have a bad reaction to covid

No, because unless they have a medical condition that means they can't (in which case they would be legitimately exempt anyway), there is no good reason not to get it and they are therefore showing themselves to be alarmingly uneducated about the vaccine.

I don't want to be treated by anyone who hasn't bothered to do a basic bit of research or chooses to ignore the medical science and a year's worth of evidence that the risk profile of the vaccines is basically little different to any of the many other vaccines the same health workers have probably had in their lifetimes.

They are choosing not to be sensible or conscious of others, they should face the consequences of that. If that makes me harsh then I really don't care.

Hippoccratic oath states:

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not", nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.


As this is the guiding document for those who work in healthcare the highlighted section implies that being vaccinated is the minimum duty of care expected as it is the best way to prevent the transmission of COVID.

Not sure on the legality and expectations in regard to the oath but always assumed it was to be followed.