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Post by vdcni on Sept 16, 2021 13:24:33 GMT
Supposedly she's there to try and stir up more culture war nonsense.
Shows you the Torie's contempt for this sector, a hugely important one for our economy, that Johnson has put this clown in charge.
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 16, 2021 14:59:12 GMT
I didn't think you had to wear them indoors anymore? I don't know what people are getting so butthurt about? It's a choice. Becuase the Government themselves advises people to wear them then finds excuses to say why they not.
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 16, 2021 14:59:52 GMT
Supposedly she's there to try and stir up more culture war nonsense. Shows you the Torie's contempt for this sector, a hugely important one for our economy, that Johnson has put this clown in charge. We going to get arguments about colour blind casting and using productions from America instead of British ones.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 15:07:38 GMT
I didn't think you had to wear them indoors anymore? I don't know what people are getting so butthurt about? It's a choice. Becuase the Government themselves advises people to wear them then finds excuses to say why they not. Do they though? I don't think they have since the rules changed. They've probably just hammered home the fact that it's a choice and the left cry outrage of some sort.
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 16, 2021 15:10:41 GMT
Becuase the Government themselves advises people to wear them then finds excuses to say why they not. Do they though? I don't think they have since the rules changed. They've probably just hammered home the fact that it's a choice and the left cry outrage of some sort. Plus if they want people to suddenly wear them again in the winter after a return to mandatory it’s best to keep wearing them now.
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 16, 2021 15:11:44 GMT
If there is one thing this pandemic has taught us is people have to be told to do things - and those things have to be backed up with punishments for not doing so. Otherwise too many people don’t bother.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 16, 2021 15:17:11 GMT
8th day of reduced cases... Since its been 15 days since schools went back, no after school bounce fingers crossed
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 16, 2021 15:25:39 GMT
8th day of reduced cases... Since its been 15 days since schools went back, no after school bounce fingers crossed Good news. (Through due to technical issues Scotland’s figures are not included today and if you add the figures they have been getting the last few days to today’s figures it would have been possibly very slightly up today.)
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Post by n1david on Sept 16, 2021 16:22:03 GMT
Becuase the Government themselves advises people to wear them then finds excuses to say why they not. Do they though? I don't think they have since the rules changed. They've probably just hammered home the fact that it's a choice and the left cry outrage of some sort. From www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-coronavirus-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do#wear-a-face-coveringIt's a bit of a challenge to say that 650 MPs in the House of Commons are all "people you usually meet", and given that they are all circulating between Westminster and their constituencies - and Parliament is a notoriously poorly-ventilated building, and the chamber is crowded for major occasions like PMQs - I'd say it fits into that category of the Government's advice.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 17, 2021 10:25:13 GMT
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 17, 2021 11:16:35 GMT
1 in 40 of people testing positive is still a major issue. That’s still over 100k.
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 17, 2021 11:21:23 GMT
What is the point of it being mandatory on the tubes yet none of the staff have the power to enforce it.
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Post by sph on Sept 17, 2021 11:34:21 GMT
What is the point of it being mandatory on the tubes yet none of the staff have the power to enforce it. I've seen at some larger stations police officers standing outside telling people to put their masks on as they enter, which is something. I guess they can say it's mandatory on the tube and hope that that is enough to get as many people as possible to wear them. You'll never get everyone though. I believe it's just tubes and theatres where they are mandatory now isn't it?
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Post by zahidf on Sept 17, 2021 11:39:48 GMT
1 in 40 of people testing positive is still a major issue. That’s still over 100k. It's not 100k. It's 1 in 40 people who catch covid, not 1 in 40 in the general population. So the actual number will be a lot lower.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 17, 2021 11:40:53 GMT
What is the point of it being mandatory on the tubes yet none of the staff have the power to enforce it. I've seen at some larger stations police officers standing outside telling people to put their masks on as they enter, which is something. I guess they can say it's mandatory on the tube and hope that that is enough to get as many people as possible to wear them. You'll never get everyone though. I believe it's just tubes and theatres where they are mandatory now isn't it? It's not legally mandatory in the theatre. It's not legally mandatory on the tube either, only punishment for not wearing it is to be barred entry
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Post by The Matthew on Sept 17, 2021 11:44:16 GMT
1 in 40 of people testing positive is still a major issue. That’s still over 100k. It's not 100k. It's 1 in 40 people who catch covid, not 1 in 40 in the general population. So the actual number will be a lot lower. Around 7.3 million people have caught it, so 1 in 40 of those would be around 180 thousand.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 17, 2021 12:42:17 GMT
It's not 100k. It's 1 in 40 people who catch covid, not 1 in 40 in the general population. So the actual number will be a lot lower. Around 7.3 million people have caught it, so 1 in 40 of those would be around 180 thousand. Fair enough, but in terms of society, its not really enough to justify restrictions
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 17, 2021 15:16:18 GMT
1 in 40 of people testing positive is still a major issue. That’s still over 100k. It's not 100k. It's 1 in 40 people who catch covid, not 1 in 40 in the general population. So the actual number will be a lot lower. And that is over 100k as there has been 7 million confirmed cases in the UK. According to my calculations at a rate of 1 in 40 of those testing positive there has been over 5000 Long Covid cases in the last week. With vaccine’s it’s probably a bit lower but still that’s night.
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 17, 2021 15:16:49 GMT
I've seen at some larger stations police officers standing outside telling people to put their masks on as they enter, which is something. I guess they can say it's mandatory on the tube and hope that that is enough to get as many people as possible to wear them. You'll never get everyone though. I believe it's just tubes and theatres where they are mandatory now isn't it? It's not legally mandatory in the theatre. It's not legally mandatory on the tube either, only punishment for not wearing it is to be barred entry It is legally mandatory. Fines just are not being enforced.
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Post by Jan on Sept 17, 2021 17:59:04 GMT
And for children even less, ONS say rates of common symptoms after #COVID19 at 12 w for kids are extremely low (0% to 1.7%) compared to controls.
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Post by Jonnyboy on Sept 18, 2021 12:12:26 GMT
We were ASKED politely to wear a mask. 99% stuck two fingers up at the request. Isnt that the problem though? Politely asking demonstrates no sense of urgency or importance at all. I saw that sign tucked away on the stairs, it was a fairly small sign and despite visiting both bars in the venue it was the only one I saw. There were no announcements about mask wearing that I heard. Theatres understandably want patrons to feel relaxed and to get buying those drinks and ice creams and snacks. They don’t want to be putting the mockers on what is quite possibly people’s first night out at the theatre in 18 months by casting fear over everyone. I get it. Whether some of us here don’t agree with it or not isnt the point. It IS the way it is and unless we see another uncontrolled surge in cases then the genie is out of the bottle and staying out. I don't really know how a mask during a performance impacts on a person's night out. If they can't think or look beyond a face covering, then imagination is seriously lacking. I saw multiple signs and each announcement - fifteen minutes call, three minutes etc... - mentioned face coverings. The advance email explained the importance of face coverings. I feel the Lowry did what they could as far as asking each person to wear a mask. It's clear the public don't want them, though. Hell, no-one WANTS them, but... if they help an ounce... Anyway, it's an impossible job getting people to wear them in healthcare settings so the theatre is a lost cause. Let's hope everything stays open throughout the winter.
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 18, 2021 13:36:28 GMT
It's not legally mandatory in the theatre. It's not legally mandatory on the tube either, only punishment for not wearing it is to be barred entry It is legally mandatory. Fines just are not being enforced. It isn't legal, there is no mask mandate and hasn't been for some time, which is why so many take 'advisory' to mean 'don't bother'. The British public will not comply unless there are consequences that can be enforced.
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 18, 2021 13:40:13 GMT
It is legally mandatory. Fines just are not being enforced. It isn't legal, there is no mask mandate and hasn't been for some time, which is why so many take 'advisory' to mean 'don't bother'. The British public will not comply unless there are consequences that can be enforced. There is on the tube.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 18, 2021 13:55:51 GMT
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Post by shady23 on Sept 19, 2021 0:15:34 GMT
Two of my work colleagues still have very bad symptoms of long covid. Not sure they'd say it's not really an issue for them.
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 20, 2021 22:53:37 GMT
Johnson says cancelling Christmas is "very much not the plan", which means it most likely very much IS the plan:
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Post by olliebean on Sept 21, 2021 7:56:43 GMT
The way things are going, we'll probably have no heat or light at Christmas as well as no turkey.
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 21, 2021 8:10:24 GMT
The way things are going, we'll probably have no heat or light at Christmas as well as no turkey. I think Johnson's thinking is 'they can't blame me for cancelling Christmas if there's no gas, no food and no deliveries, because they won't be able to celebrate it anyway!'
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Post by The Matthew on Sept 21, 2021 8:45:27 GMT
The way things are going, we'll probably have no heat or light at Christmas as well as no turkey. Boris Johnson: "The lights will stay on". Me:
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Post by lynette on Sept 21, 2021 11:55:57 GMT
I think the conversation has moved towards more general political chat. Can we keep this as titled and if you like olliebean or others, start new thread.
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