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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 13, 2022 8:35:38 GMT
Imagine how bad you feel if you voted for him at the election? I think a lot of his supporters love him because he doesn't care about following the rules.
It's not like this is anything new. This is the guy who arranged to have a journalist beaten up as a favour to a mate. He was known as someone with no respect for the truth long before he went into politics, and his time as Mayor of London and as an MP showed that he was all about manipulation, deceit and a total contempt for the law. The people who made him party leader and the people who voted that party into power knew what he was, and they were fine with it. Awful lot of people in the UK love him then. We truly are finished then |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 13, 2022 11:22:06 GMT
We are not finished.
A lot of people loved ‘B’ and not Boris but Brexit and wanted to see completed what they voted for, Boris took full advantage of this. I’m sorry to say this as a ardent remainer. All that bubbling and messy hair what endeared people to that intelligent clown, when the economy goes south with higher utility bills and higher taxes, those bubbling and messy hair will just rile people instead.
Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is.
Was it kind of ironic that Dominic Cummins’ choose to do the press conference in the Downing Street garden, when he went to Bernard Castle to test his eye sight. I think a subliminal message was sent.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 13, 2022 11:25:58 GMT
We are not finished. A lot of people loved ‘B’ and not Boris but Brexit and wanted to see completed what they voted for, Boris took full advantage of this. I’m sorry to say this as a ardent remainer. All that bubbling and messy hair what endeared people to that intelligent clown, when the economy goes south with higher utility bills and higher taxes, those bubbling and messy hair will just rile people instead. Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. Was it kind of ironic that Dominic Cummins’ choose to do the press conference in the Downing Street garden, when he went to Bernard Castle to test his eye sight. I think a subliminal message was sent. Good post |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 13, 2022 13:56:26 GMT
We are not finished. A lot of people loved ‘B’ and not Boris but Brexit and wanted to see completed what they voted for, Boris took full advantage of this. I’m sorry to say this as a ardent remainer. All that bubbling and messy hair what endeared people to that intelligent clown, when the economy goes south with higher utility bills and higher taxes, those bubbling and messy hair will just rile people instead. Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. Was it kind of ironic that Dominic Cummins’ choose to do the press conference in the Downing Street garden, when he went to Bernard Castle to test his eye sight. I think a subliminal message was sent. Cummings must have one more tasty tit bit to bring down the government |
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Post by olliebean on Jan 13, 2022 22:46:15 GMT
Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. My worry is that the lower they slump in the polls, the harder they will bounce back when they finally get rid of him and put someone less obviously dreadful in charge. |
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jan 14, 2022 8:55:17 GMT
We are actually entering what should have been the honeymoon period, COVID does appear to be waning and the real cost of living crisis has not reached its full impact.
They really needed a lead at this time, when the tax increases and energy increases hit in April it will become even more challenging to bounce back, at this moment in time the Conservatives needed a strong lead to weather the loss of support as we see our living expenses increase and when we look back at the last 2 years with a more critical eye.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 14, 2022 9:01:20 GMT
Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. My worry is that the lower they slump in the polls, the harder they will bounce back when they finally get rid of him and put someone less obviously dreadful in charge. Will the new leader be as popular in the red wall seats won at the last election? It's a dilemma |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 14, 2022 9:02:25 GMT
We are actually entering what should have been the honeymoon period, COVID does appear to be waning and the real cost of living crisis has not reached its full impact. They really needed a lead at this time, when the tax increases and energy increases hit in April it will become even more challenging to bounce back, at this moment in time the Conservatives needed a strong lead to weather the loss of support as we see our living expenses increase and when we look back at the last 2 years with a more critical eye. With all you have mentioned the government need to tell us what 'levelling out' means? |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 14, 2022 11:08:00 GMT
My worry is that the lower they slump in the polls, the harder they will bounce back when they finally get rid of him and put someone less obviously dreadful in charge. Will the new leader be as popular in the red wall seats won at the last election? It's a dilemma Boris' Red Wall and Trump's Rust Belt (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin & Michigan) are both interchangeable, both won big on the respective general election 2019 and 2016 US Presidential Election and Trump in the 2020 US Presidential election lost all and big in the Rust Belt to Biden, the same will happen to Johnson, the polls in the red wall looks especially dreadful. The 2019 election was all about Brexit and the ERG which was/is headed up by Farage/Johnson, they were wildly successful it was not what I wanted, but I do understand why people wanted to see completed what they voted for, this is why Johnson won big with older Labour supporters. I didn't like Theresa May but I would never in a million years would think she would ever dream of having parties, whilst people were having their life support machines switched off and the Queen mourning her husband. There is no such thing now as a safe Tory seat after North Staffordshire and Amersham/Chesham. But now paying £850 wallpaper, fixing the rules to save a colleague, now rules that don't apply to 'them' and partying why the Queen was mourning the loss of her husband, they now see Johnston as a entitled arse-hole. |
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Post by duncan on Jan 14, 2022 12:31:08 GMT
I wouldn't consider a by election result as any indication what will happen in a GE, history has long brought us by election winners who were then right royally shanked at the following GE.
They'll back the useless alki until they get destroyed in May and then blame him and have a new leader with a new fresh outlook.
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 14, 2022 13:21:49 GMT
I'm shocked. Literally nobody could have seen this coming...
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 14, 2022 13:43:22 GMT
I'm shocked. Literally nobody could have seen this coming... Forgone conclusion. |
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 14, 2022 20:33:21 GMT
Frankly at this point I'd be more shocked if photos emerged of them sqeezing some work in between the parties:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 20:43:47 GMT
To be fair, can you blame them for turning to drink?
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Post by Marwood on Jan 14, 2022 21:39:21 GMT
Any inquiry should be held by a totally independent person, not someone on the Whitehall payroll who despite what they are labelled as are just a whitewashed shambles but I’m at the point now where I think the Conservative party is just hoping that the general publics apathy (and by general public I mean the type of people who will never read comments like these and phone up the Jeremy Vine Show to wheel out a load of crap about Andrew and how the Royal Family have been hard done by)will see them through: it’s sickening.
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Post by olliebean on Jan 14, 2022 22:28:16 GMT
Boris' Red Wall and Trump's Rust Belt (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin & Michigan) are both interchangeable, both won big on the respective general election 2019 and 2016 US Presidential Election and Trump in the 2020 US Presidential election lost all and big in the Rust Belt to Biden, the same will happen to Johnson, the polls in the red wall looks especially dreadful. It won't happen to Johnson, because Johnson will be gone by then. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 15, 2022 0:22:42 GMT
Boris' Red Wall and Trump's Rust Belt (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin & Michigan) are both interchangeable, both won big on the respective general election 2019 and 2016 US Presidential Election and Trump in the 2020 US Presidential election lost all and big in the Rust Belt to Biden, the same will happen to Johnson, the polls in the red wall looks especially dreadful. It won't happen to Johnson, because Johnson will be gone by then. Agreed Downing Street is like a sieve, so no real respite for Johnson, not that he deserves any. He is actually despised in Westminster and that is by his own party, as he was always on manoeuvres with his narcissism, he was only selected in 2019 as he was seen as the only Tory that could win a general election as he was popular with the wider public, this was after Tory party were licking their wounds after being trounced by the Brexit Party in the European elections, that popularity has since changed in the last couple of months and is set to get even worse. It is no secret secret that the tabloid newspaper promised him the Prime Ministership if he got Brexit down. If I was the Queen I wouldn’t except his apology and refuse to see him on a Wednesday afternoon. I am no royalist but the Queen acted with absolute dignity sitting by herself for her husbands funeral, he hasn’t. As they say be nice to the people on the way up, as you meet them on the way down. Also they say that someone who is unfaithful to his wife, will be unfaithful to the country. He was having an affair whilst is ex wife Marina was receiving cancer treatment, he is no good and I’m glad I didn’t vote for him. You are right he will be gone, a lot of Tory supporters’ won’t accept the Queen being insulted, it is a bridge too far, |
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Post by lynette on Jan 15, 2022 23:02:33 GMT
I hope the Queen does see him. The audience with the Queen should sober him up a bit.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 15, 2022 23:34:20 GMT
When Boris goes, he might walk away immediately which would leave Raab as acting PM until a new leader is elected....
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Post by peggs on Jan 16, 2022 0:08:57 GMT
There's no good outcome as a replacement though is there, all deservedly tarred with the same brush, just varying faces of awful.
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Post by horton on Jan 16, 2022 8:02:23 GMT
I hope that the role he craved his whole megalomaniac life is now causing him exquisite pain and misery.
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Post by og on Jan 16, 2022 9:18:40 GMT
I hope the Queen does see him. The audience with the Queen should sober him up a bit. The amount of narcotics in his system, a months detox wouldn’t sober him up. It’s been overlooked quite considerably, due to the bigger issues, but this has really shone a light onto how systemic the drinking culture in Westminster really is. Ardent alcoholics the lot of them. It’s quite concerning and should have more people talking. |
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Post by olliebean on Jan 16, 2022 12:08:16 GMT
Yes, the excuses seem to be converging on the No.10 work culture being such that they can't tell the difference between work and boozy parties. In which case, frankly, that's way more of a problem than the fact that the parties broke the rules.
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 16, 2022 13:00:49 GMT
Absolutely. It baffles me that if they are denying they are parties and thus working, they are admitting to drinking copious amounts of booze on the job, which is frankly worse. Why aren't the media quizzing them about this?
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Post by Jon on Jan 17, 2022 12:55:56 GMT
I suspect Boris would rather be writing his book on Shakespeare than leading the country.
In terms of replacement, it's likely to be Rishi Sunak IMO.
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