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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 5, 2016 8:30:02 GMT
Chicago didn't have the cheek to charge £150for a ticket.. And the concept was so original and fresh, it warranted being an 'event'.
Anyway- so delighted that Glenn has the raves she deserves for this... And hopefully she will stop Sheridan winning the Olivier next year.
They should transfer this to the Palladium for a run in an ideal world..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 8:42:53 GMT
But its a limited run, it would never make money on standard ticket prices.
Standard musicals expect a longer run so can have cheaper ticket prices.
If anything I'd say a limited run like this is more justified in its ticket prices than a show like chicago that has run for years and charges £70 + a ticket
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Post by zsazsa on Apr 5, 2016 8:49:45 GMT
What price are they selling these for?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 5, 2016 9:08:01 GMT
10£, 40£ signed, 50£ signed and framed
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Post by steve10086 on Apr 5, 2016 9:19:15 GMT
10£, 40£ signed, 50£ signed and framed They had no framed ones left last night, though perhaps there is more than one merchandise stand and there are some left elsewhere?
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 5, 2016 10:01:21 GMT
I had a great seat and payed only £75. Even though with the high ticket prices, I doubt ENO made any money on this.
I wasn't a fan of Chicago, but can see why it was call 'original' and 'fresh'. listening to this semi-staged production, was more original than the actor musician revival Watermill production which I also really enjoyed, but the ENO was a revelation, when Norma at the end walks down that staircase, waiting for her close up and once off the staircase a big screen comes down and the words 'The End' are projected on the screen, just like an old movie, so clever. Also the part when Norma goes back to the studio to the studio for the 'as we never say goodbye',when a sound assistant has the audacity to stick a microphone in her face. For me this was better than Chicago. Lonny Price direction was top of the class.
Not bad for a musical that got bad reviews when it opened at the Adelphi 20 years earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 10:03:18 GMT
But its a limited run, it would never make money on standard ticket prices. Standard musicals expect a longer run so can have cheaper ticket prices. If anything I'd say a limited run like this is more justified in its ticket prices than a show like chicago that has run for years and charges £70 + a ticket Also, I believe they are paying everyone opera salaries which are different to normal Equity minimums.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 5, 2016 10:12:04 GMT
Was anyone at the press evening? Looks like ALW might have given a speech. Do tell.
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Post by steve10086 on Apr 5, 2016 10:38:50 GMT
Was anyone at the press evening? Looks like ALW might have given a speech. Do tell. I was there, and there were no speeches. I didn't think ALW was going to appear at the end as Don Black and Christoper Hampton came on without him. Is it an opera thing to make a bigger deal about the composer in particular?
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Post by steve10086 on Apr 5, 2016 10:40:43 GMT
I had a great seat and payed only £75. Even though with the high ticket prices, I doubt ENO made any money on this. I wasn't a fan of Chicago, but can see why it was call 'original' and 'fresh'. listening to this semi-staged production, was more original than the actor musician revival Watermill production which I also really enjoyed, but the ENO was a revelation, when Norma at the end walks down that staircase, waiting for her close up and once off the staircase a big screen comes down and the words 'The End' are projected on the screen, just like an old movie, so clever. Also the part when Norma goes back to the studio to the studio for the 'as we never say goodbye',when a sound assistant has the audacity to stick a microphone in her face. For me this was better than Chicago. Lonny Price direction was top of the class. Not bad for a musical that got bad reviews when it opened at the Adelphi 20 years earlier. I liked "The End" but I also liked the very similar staging in the original production, which had a projection of a young Norma turning and smiling on the screen behind her, which grew to fill the entire stage before the blackout. And the microphone thing at the studio is from the film and the original production.
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Post by richey on Apr 5, 2016 10:51:47 GMT
Was anyone at the press evening? Looks like ALW might have given a speech. Do tell. No he just came on and took a bow
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Post by wickedgrin on Apr 5, 2016 11:48:18 GMT
Seeing this tomorrow and trying to lower my expectations as I do not want to be disappointed with "the theatrical event of the year"! I notice that the reviews are generally 4 stars rather than 5 - it must be the nature of the staging that prevents it from being a 5 star show?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 5, 2016 11:52:14 GMT
Seeing this tomorrow and trying to lower my expectations as I do not want to be disappointed with "the theatrical event of the year"! I notice that the reviews are generally 4 stars rather than 5 - it must be the nature of the staging that prevents it from being a 5 star show? It's also the nature of the flawed show in itself and not everybody raved about Michael Xavier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 12:06:58 GMT
Seeing this tomorrow and trying to lower my expectations as I do not want to be disappointed with "the theatrical event of the year"! I notice that the reviews are generally 4 stars rather than 5 - it must be the nature of the staging that prevents it from being a 5 star show? It's also the nature of the flawed show in itself and not everybody raved about Michael Xavier. I want names. And addresses. And the contact details of someone who is good at waterboarding.
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Post by infofreako on Apr 5, 2016 12:12:03 GMT
It's also the nature of the flawed show in itself and not everybody raved about Michael Xavier. I want names. And addresses. And the contact details of someone who is good at waterboarding. Waterboarding you say... Anyways. All joking aside off to see this tonight and really looking forward to it
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 5, 2016 14:45:59 GMT
Or no real interest to our great media, as no milk and honey for them i.e. 'advertising'.
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Post by chernjam on Apr 5, 2016 15:00:04 GMT
I'm really curious about this "young norma" re-appearing in this production. One reviewer was describing it and talked about it as being another example of ALW's fascination with "Ghost stories" (WIW, Phantom, Aspects all having these elements) that in a sense, Sunset also has the ghost of Norma's past there. Interesting idea and would bring a different dimension to the show rather than scoring and staging the film (as some reviewers complained was all they did with the original go-round)
If anything, I'm glad that this production put to bed the Watermill-pared-down version. If I remember, that got some good reviews and I could never imagine Sunset being done on a dinky stage with the actors playing instruments. This needs to be done big and it shouldn't apologize for it
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Post by raiseitup on Apr 5, 2016 15:16:11 GMT
Did I hear something about a pre-show talk tonight? Do I need to arrive earlier or still half 7? I'm so excited to see this tonight, I can't wait.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 5, 2016 15:23:52 GMT
No, it's a totally different event, it should begin at around 17:30 and tickets are for 5£
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Post by drowseychap on Apr 5, 2016 15:33:01 GMT
Well i got tickets for Saturday eve ? Well my partner did so Theatremonkey hope he did well yikes ! Could only afford upper circle row j ?? I know the pared back water mill production offended lots of people .... But must admit I enjoyed it ... As Katherine evens was fantastic and hit every note to the max. Would have like to ha e seen her in a full orchestra production
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Post by redredred on Apr 5, 2016 15:49:03 GMT
Well got i got tickets for Saturday eve ? Well my partner did so Theatremonkey hope he did well yikes ! Could only afford upper circle row j ?? I know the pared back water mill production offended lots of people .... But must admit I enjoyed it ... As Katherine evens was fantastic and hit every note to the max. Would have like to ha e seen her in a full orchestra production im upper circle row j also, but im going on another eve. would be great to hear feedback on the seats? im tempted to try and book for another date for better seats. hope you have a fabulous time!
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Post by yam on Apr 5, 2016 16:19:27 GMT
I sat in H40 of the upper circle last night, and for the majority of the show it was great view as you can see down the aisle, for what it's worth I found the sound to be the best I heard over the three nights I was there, but that may have been because they had levelled it up during the previews. The sound for me when sat in D18 Dress circle on Friday evening was a touch underwhelming and needed more volume. On Saturday evening I was in B17 stalls, a fab seat and if you want to be in the firing line of Norma and her gun then that's the place to be, but being closer led to a slight echo effect as you got the actual natural sound then the slightly delayed amplified mix, nothing to spoil anything but the upper circle wins for me on the sound.
Hope every one that's booked has a great time, my next scheduled visit is for closing night, but I'm not sure I will last that long!
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 5, 2016 16:38:30 GMT
Oh how I hate to be 'that guy' but for those who have seen it and have seen how much Glenn puts into a performance, especially vocally, what do we think the chances of her going off are (barring illness)? Hopefully they have given her the same singing teacher Imelda Staunton had!
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Post by Sue on Apr 5, 2016 16:57:31 GMT
Not until after the 23rd please, Glenn THEN you can go off ☺️ !
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Post by steve10086 on Apr 5, 2016 18:09:19 GMT
The "pre-performance talk" at the Coliseum today was very interesting. It explained the slight tweak in the overture (ALW had wanted to change it for years), and hearing the Director's vision for the "young Norma" certainly made that part clearer. Apparently Norma's belief in herself as still being young and glamorous is so strong and overwhelming that she actually manifests herself as such in Joe's mind. The whole show is set in Joe's mind, so we're seeing things as he sees them, and at certain points Joe sees Norma as young (his relationship with her is not purely exploitative and he does have feelings for her). Makes more sense now, but I still don't think it works.
Best thing was getting to hear Ria Jones sing "As If We Never Said Goodbye". As a Sunset fan from the very start it was thrilling to finally see ALW's very first Norma Desmond singing a song from the show.
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