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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 17:38:21 GMT
Yup think you're completely right Jon . Is a tricky one. These buildings are historically important, architecturally fascinating and often gorgeous. But as an audience experience, even pre-dating all the 'rona issues, they are not a comfortable (or particularly healthy) environment. The German places win hands down on this score! As you say though, I can't think of anything that could be done about it. Well, other than seating. They could take out the last 4 or 5 rows, affording better leg room and sightlines from spreading out the rest. Of course they won't though!
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Post by TallPaul on Jul 11, 2020 17:58:14 GMT
I think it's some owners, though by no means all, who are often the problem, rather than the planners, even if the former often blames the latter. The Theatre Trust is generally sympathetic to well designed schemes, and Camden, for example, did eventually grant permission for the now abandoned project to completely gut the Ambassadors.
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Post by zahidf on Jul 13, 2020 13:03:26 GMT
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Post by baguette on Jul 13, 2020 17:20:18 GMT
Good for them for putting up a programme. 1,200 people in the audience on Friday at the Philharmonie de Paris (with the required one empty seat between booking groups and agreed COVID precautions) to watch the 67-piece Orchestra de Paris perform. It's a tragedy that audiences in UK are still locked out of theatres.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:53:33 GMT
Good for them for putting up a programme. 1,200 people in the audience on Friday at the Philharmonie de Paris (with the required one empty seat between booking groups and agreed COVID precautions) to watch the 67-piece Orchestra de Paris perform. It's a tragedy that audiences in UK are still locked out of theatres. I can feel a trip to Paris coming on....
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Post by fiyero on Jul 13, 2020 21:21:27 GMT
Good for them for putting up a programme. 1,200 people in the audience on Friday at the Philharmonie de Paris (with the required one empty seat between booking groups and agreed COVID precautions) to watch the 67-piece Orchestra de Paris perform. It's a tragedy that audiences in UK are still locked out of theatres. I can feel a trip to Paris coming on.... This reassures me for my January trip. Just booked Charlie and the chocolate factory to replace the lion king which has postponed. I am determined to see something on my trip!
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Post by sf on Jul 13, 2020 21:51:32 GMT
Good for them for putting up a programme. 1,200 people in the audience on Friday at the Philharmonie de Paris (with the required one empty seat between booking groups and agreed COVID precautions) to watch the 67-piece Orchestra de Paris perform. It's a tragedy that audiences in UK are still locked out of theatres. I can feel a trip to Paris coming on....
There are still postponements, though, including some major ones. The revival of Starmania that was supposed to open in October at La Seine Musicale has been pushed back 13 months to November 2021.
(Yes I'm intending to go.)
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Post by dippy on Jul 13, 2020 21:53:22 GMT
Anyone else done one of the latest SOLT audience surveys, so many options to choose from for things that would help you decide to attend a venue or site. One option was "All visitors provided with masks", I really hope that is not something that is going to happen, that would be such a waste, loads of them would just end up discarded on the pavement outside the theatre, I really hope people would be able to bring a mask if everyone has to wear one for a performance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 22:24:21 GMT
Anyone else done one of the latest SOLT audience surveys, so many options to choose from for things that would help you decide to attend a venue or site. One option was "All visitors provided with masks", I really hope that is not something that is going to happen, that would be such a waste, loads of them would just end up discarded on the pavement outside the theatre, I really hope people would be able to bring a mask if everyone has to wear one for a performance. Yes, I did. I ticked "all visitors provided with masks" as a good thing because it is the second best option if they are not going to refuse entry to people who don't have masks (which is what I think they should do). My survey answers hopefully adequately convey that the only thing I'm remotely concerned about is how they are going to ensure no-one takes their mask off during the performance, and that everyone obeys hand sanitation requirements.
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Post by dippy on Jul 13, 2020 22:46:42 GMT
Yes, I did. I ticked "all visitors provided with masks" as a good thing because it is the second best option if they are not going to refuse entry to people who don't have masks (which is what I think they should do). My survey answers hopefully adequately convey that the only thing I'm remotely concerned about is how they are going to ensure no-one takes their mask off during the performance, and that everyone obeys hand sanitation requirements. That is true, if they aren't going to turn people without a mask away then I guess ticking it does make sense. Sounds like an impossible task!
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Post by londonpostie on Jul 14, 2020 9:27:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 10:25:24 GMT
A good article here, which lays out clearly the divisiveness of the package announced last week. Our weak support for arts compared to our neighbours, the promotion of institutions over individuals, the old versus the young artist, the need for profound change throughout the whole artistic life of this country. “The delicate three-way relationship between institutions, artists and audiences is going to have to be renegotiated. How effectively organisations accommodate, nurture and reward the ambitions of artists, how skilfully they hand over authorial control to a decreasingly patient younger generation, will become more and more important. ” www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/14/cultural-rescue-package-artists-institutions-covid-19
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 10:32:29 GMT
Another interesting article about changing the design of theatres for now and for the future. “...architects have been working alongside the Harvard School of Public Health, looking at how theatres might mitigate the coronavirus risk before a vaccine comes along. “It has allowed us to use the project as a live research test bed,” says Tompkins, “asking what theatres might have to do in a time of pandemics – which might not just be this one.” He says that displacement ventilation is one of the key principles, so that fresh air comes in from below and is exhausted through the roof (as at the practice’s Everyman theatre), rather than allowing it to drift across the audience and spread the virus, along with better filtration, and slightly higher humidity and temperature. He points to the technical interventions planned by the London Palladium, which proposes to introduce infrared cameras at the stage door along with antiviral fogging machines and an app-based “medical passport” for ticket-holders.” www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/jul/14/covid-future-theatre-scottish-seaside-town-answers-dunoon
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Post by zahidf on Jul 14, 2020 11:09:01 GMT
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Post by baguette on Jul 14, 2020 11:15:06 GMT
Great to see the Donmar opening up for an installation if not a performance. I can't understand this part:
This hour-long ticketed installation for a limited number of visitors will run four times a day, with seating arranged 2m apart in accordance with social distancing guidelines in a transformed Donmar Warehouse.
Social distancing is 1m so why are the Donmar going with 2m?
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 14, 2020 11:28:03 GMT
The guidance is 1m where it is not possible to maintain 2m.
With the stage area being free it would be difficult to justify the 1m+ rule and will make people feel more comfortable, the 2m rule will not apply I believe you book 2 tickets and from a recognised bubble.
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Post by sf on Jul 14, 2020 11:41:08 GMT
Great to see the Donmar opening up for an installation if not a performance. I can't understand this part: This hour-long ticketed installation for a limited number of visitors will run four times a day, with seating arranged 2m apart in accordance with social distancing guidelines in a transformed Donmar Warehouse. Social distancing is 1m so why are the Donmar going with 2m? Social distancing isn't 1m. Or at least, not precisely. The recommendation is still 2m, and where that isn't possible 1m is permissible with additional precautions (masks, not sitting face to face). The government's messaging is deliberately confusing, and is designed to protect ministers rather than to promote public safety.
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Post by clair on Jul 14, 2020 11:48:35 GMT
Perhaps they're seeing what can be done with 2m for viability further down the line always having the potential to decrease distancing and add seats rather than having to do the opposite
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Post by basdfg on Jul 14, 2020 11:51:04 GMT
Great to see the Donmar opening up for an installation if not a performance. I can't understand this part: This hour-long ticketed installation for a limited number of visitors will run four times a day, with seating arranged 2m apart in accordance with social distancing guidelines in a transformed Donmar Warehouse. Social distancing is 1m so why are the Donmar going with 2m? Social distancing isn't 1m. Or at least, not precisely. The recommendation is still 2m, and where that isn't possible 1m is permissible with additional precautions (masks, not sitting face to face). The government's messaging is deliberately confusing, and is designed to protect ministers rather than to promote public safety. It's known as 1m plus.
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Post by viserys on Jul 14, 2020 11:53:02 GMT
Anyone else done one of the latest SOLT audience surveys, so many options to choose from for things that would help you decide to attend a venue or site. One option was "All visitors provided with masks", I really hope that is not something that is going to happen, that would be such a waste, loads of them would just end up discarded on the pavement outside the theatre, I really hope people would be able to bring a mask if everyone has to wear one for a performance. Not if they are pretty masks, maybe even with the show's logo on it, a famous line from the play in question or something like that. It could become a good advertising gimmick. I ordered tickets for a social distanced outdoor performance last week and I had to fill in a name, address and phone number for each ticket, so they can (if necessary) trace people and know who sat where. The paper tickets arrived with a free mask, which I thought was a nice gesture. It's also got the ticket company's logo and a nice line about "keep smiling" on it and is very nice soft light fabric.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 14, 2020 12:11:16 GMT
Another interesting article about changing the design of theatres for now and for the future. “...architects have been working alongside the Harvard School of Public Health, looking at how theatres might mitigate the coronavirus risk before a vaccine comes along. “It has allowed us to use the project as a live research test bed,” says Tompkins, “asking what theatres might have to do in a time of pandemics – which might not just be this one.” He says that displacement ventilation is one of the key principles, so that fresh air comes in from below and is exhausted through the roof (as at the practice’s Everyman theatre), rather than allowing it to drift across the audience and spread the virus, along with better filtration, and slightly higher humidity and temperature. He points to the technical interventions planned by the London Palladium, which proposes to introduce infrared cameras at the stage door along with antiviral fogging machines and an app-based “medical passport” for ticket-holders.” www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/jul/14/covid-future-theatre-scottish-seaside-town-answers-dunoonGiven how high the humidity & temperature levels are anyway in many theatres every summer, I'm not sure I fancy visiting any theatres where they have been deliberately raised!
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Post by theatreian on Jul 14, 2020 12:11:55 GMT
I was wondering if anyone has gone to the cinema yet and what their experience was. I saw this film was coming up soon and will go and see it once released. Stage Mother. Looks like entertainment we could do with a the moment. It's the story of a mother who inherits her sons drag club in San Francisco. www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3893673497?playlistId=tt8364138&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi
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Post by basdfg on Jul 14, 2020 14:17:11 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 14, 2020 14:49:23 GMT
But if workers have been managing at home why on Earth would they risk going back? A company can't demand it if all employees won't comply.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 14, 2020 14:58:49 GMT
But if workers have been managing at home why on Earth would they risk going back? A company can't demand it if all employees won't comply. Some of the tories seem to be talking about tax breaks or other offers for companies bringing their workers back.
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