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Post by theatremadness on Jun 25, 2020 23:22:24 GMT
I wonder if the BBC will pull Maxine Peakes episode from BBC1 after her antisemitic comments. She didn't make an antisemitic comment. Apologies for derailing the thread but I have to reply (and I didn't bring it up!). Then why have Amnesty International released a statement that they never reported that kneeling on someone's neck, as in the case of the murder of George Floyd, was taught to the US police by the Israeli police as a result of Maxine Peake's comments. Maxine says she “was inaccurate in my assumption of American Police training & its sources” - so where is your proof please? Legitimate criticism of the Israeli police is not anti-Semitic. Perpetuating conspiracy theories based on anti-Semitic tropes (Jews being accused of secretly orchestrating disasters and starting race-wars) is, surprise surprise, anti-Semitic.
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Post by alicechallice on Jun 25, 2020 23:47:21 GMT
Listen, apologies to all, I hadn't read much more about it in the last few hours so wasn't aware of the latest developments or Maxine's apology or the fact there was a whole thread on the matter here.
The temptation to respond just caught me while I was trying to wind down after a very stressful day in which I've decided I dislike most people. So, funnily enough I hadn't been anywhere near a website for a while.
No offence intended.
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 26, 2020 19:41:06 GMT
The actor in Playing Sandwiches to me really didn't have a firm enough grasp of the text. It was a mediocre performance
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 22:57:42 GMT
Unfortunately, An Ordinary Woman was spoilt for me before i watched it, but the first part of it sounded very much like Patricia Routledge.
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Post by alicechallice on Jun 26, 2020 23:25:05 GMT
Unfortunately, An Ordinary Woman was spoilt for me before i watched it, but the first part of it sounded very much like Patricia Routledge. Patricia Routledge wouldn't waste her breath getting giddy about her 15 year-old son's big knob. She's far too moral for that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 0:34:05 GMT
Unfortunately, An Ordinary Woman was spoilt for me before i watched it, but the first part of it sounded very much like Patricia Routledge. Patricia Routledge wouldn't waste her breath getting giddy about her 15 year-old son's big knob. She's far too moral for that!
You might want to put that in spoilers!
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 27, 2020 18:42:56 GMT
Bloody hell, Martin Freeman gabbled through A Chip In The Sugar like he had a plane to catch later!
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Post by bimse on Jun 28, 2020 7:28:04 GMT
I enjoyed the original series so much, and I’m so familiar with the performances , which is probably why I haven’t taken to this series. Jodie Comer , who I love in Killing Eve , didn’t get the phrasing right at all , not like Julie Walters . As for the new monologues , not a pleasant watch for me despite the finest actors .
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 28, 2020 11:34:07 GMT
Lesley Manville is sensational in Bed Among The Lentils. I didn't think about Naggie Snith's version while I was watching it and it stands on its own.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 28, 2020 12:59:15 GMT
Not entirely related, but this morning I watched BBC's 102 Boulevard Haussmann, a fine screenplay by Alan Bennett about Proust (Alan Bates), his maid Celeste (Janet McTeer) and a rascally violist he falls for (Paul Rhys). It was absolutely lovely - so good in fact that Bennett recycled a lot of lines from it and put them in The History Boys, including that wonderful speech in which Hector tells Posner that reading ideas that you thought were just your own on a book is as if the writer's hand had come out of it to take yours or something on that line.
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Post by Polly1 on Jun 28, 2020 15:21:35 GMT
Not entirely related, but this morning I watched BBC's 102 Boulevard Haussmann, a fine screenplay by Alan Bennett about Proust (Alan Bates), his maid Celeste (Janet McTeer) and a rascally violist he falls for (Paul Rhys). It was absolutely lovely - so good in fact that Bennett recycled a lot of lines from it and put them in The History Boys, including that wonderful speech in which Hector tells Posner that reading ideas that you thought were just your own on a book is as if the writer's hand had come out of it to take yours or something on that line. Is this on iPlayer?
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Post by Jon on Jun 28, 2020 15:42:18 GMT
I was watching The Lady in the Van on iPlayer and there's a bit where Alex Jennings' Alan Bennett is starring in A Chip in the Sugar at the National.
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Post by alicechallice on Jun 28, 2020 17:55:34 GMT
Patricia Routledge wouldn't waste her breath getting giddy about her 15 year-old son's big knob. She's far too moral for that!
You might want to put that in spoilers!
It's not a spoiler if it happens in the first two minutes! That's like not "spoilering" that a Great White Shark kills somebody or Forrest Gump decides to sit on a bench.
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Post by lynette on Jun 28, 2020 18:41:01 GMT
Noooo. Ruined for me. And Hamlet dies at the end. Never forgive myself for giving this one away...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:25:05 GMT
The Sarah Lancashire one is really breathtaking - amazing acting.
Just caught up with the first two, trying not to binge!
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Post by peggs on Jun 29, 2020 21:47:26 GMT
Just watched Soldiering On, Harriet Walter not lost her ability to make me cry, gosh these are good.
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Post by karloscar on Jun 30, 2020 11:28:57 GMT
Her Big Break sounds incredibly dated now. Julie Walters telling of her extra work on Crossroads was funny because it was believable and the mix of delusion and bravado about the dodgy movie was played perfectly. Jodie Comer didn't even provoke a smile never mind a laugh with the lighter moments. And in the #metoo era I just sat there thinking no actress would be that naive these days.
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Post by longinthetooth on Jun 30, 2020 13:51:23 GMT
The Jody Comer fans were out in force on Twitter last night, claiming she's the greatest ever actress, so beautiful, a goddess, why isn't she a Dame, etc etc. I particularly liked the one who praised her stunning performance, even though they admitted they hadn't a clue what it was all about!
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 1, 2020 11:00:57 GMT
The Jody Comer fans were out in force on Twitter last night, claiming she's the greatest ever actress, so beautiful, a goddess, why isn't she a Dame, etc etc. I particularly liked the one who praised her stunning performance, even though they admitted they hadn't a clue what it was all about! Oh I saw!! I didn't realise she had such a throng of worshipers.
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Post by danb on Jul 1, 2020 14:45:57 GMT
It was always one of my favourites, but I got nothing from Comer at all. It all felt a bit flat and was almost boring in places.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 1, 2020 15:03:00 GMT
I liked the Comer one, where do I sign up to the Jodie fan club?
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 1, 2020 15:23:47 GMT
It was always one of my favourites, but I got nothing from Comer at all. It all felt a bit flat and was almost boring in places. Felt exactly the same. And I'd never even see the Julie original to compare (although have read the script) Another slight issue with some of them is that the limitations of lockdown filming locations (East Enders residences!) is that the furnishings can seem too modern for the time period, and in the case of Soldering On, not grand enough to reflect the story.
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Post by TallPaul on Jul 1, 2020 15:29:14 GMT
I liked the Comer one, where do I sign up to the Jodie fan club? I think there's a link on the Everton website. 🙂
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 1, 2020 15:34:22 GMT
I liked the Comer one, where do I sign up to the Jodie fan club? I think there's a link on the Everton website. 🙂 He he
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Post by sf on Jul 1, 2020 15:39:16 GMT
And I'd never even see the Julie original to compare (although have read the script) Do try and find it. Julie Walters' two performances in the original series ('Her Big Chance' and 'The Outside Dog') are both superb.
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Post by theatreian on Jul 1, 2020 16:37:47 GMT
Julie Walters' two performances in the original series ('Her Big Chance' and 'The Outside Dog') are both superb. Yes I kept hearing Julie on Her Big Chance when Jodie was speaking. some of the shoes of the originals are extremely big ones to fill.
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Post by n1david on Jul 1, 2020 17:56:48 GMT
Julie Walters' two performances in the original series ('Her Big Chance' and 'The Outside Dog') are both superb. Yes I kept hearing Julie on Her Big Chance when Jodie was speaking. some of the shoes of the originals are extremely big ones to fill. I'm guessing it's because Bennett wrote with the original actors in mind, or at least tweaked them when they'd been cast - Comer was the first one where I felt (particularly in the first scene) that we were watching Comer play Walters play Lesley, but that could just be because Bennett it wrote it to exploit the turn of phrase that Walters was good at.
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Post by theatremadness on Jul 1, 2020 18:39:11 GMT
Oh yes, I can't even begin to imagine. Are the originals available anywhere, do you know? The DVD is the best way to watch them but if you happen upon Dailymotion they're on there as well. For anyone wanting to watch the originals, the above helped me out considerably..... cc: distantcousin
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Post by peggs on Jul 1, 2020 20:45:25 GMT
Yes I kept hearing Julie on Her Big Chance when Jodie was speaking. some of the shoes of the originals are extremely big ones to fill. I'm guessing it's because Bennett wrote with the original actors in mind, or at least tweaked them when they'd been cast - Comer was the first one where I felt (particularly in the first scene) that we were watching Comer play Walters play Lesley, but that could just be because Bennett it wrote it to exploit the turn of phrase that Walters was good at. Is that why I 'heard' Walter is certain parts even though I haven't seen her do it? It was so easy to imagine how she'd do it, where she'd put the emphasis on certain lines. I didn't mind this version to be honest but having read comments I wasn't expecting much so maybe that helped. Wasn't quite sure about the accent, wasn't sure if it was just sometimes her character putting on her 'working voice' hence you sometimes had an accent and sometimes didn't.
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 1, 2020 21:11:05 GMT
Her Big Break sounds incredibly dated now. Julie Walters telling of her extra work on Crossroads was funny because it was believable and the mix of delusion and bravado about the dodgy movie was played perfectly. Jodie Comer didn't even provoke a smile never mind a laugh with the lighter moments. And in the #metoo era I just sat there thinking no actress would be that naive these days. It was clearly still set in the 80's though?
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