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Post by partytentdown on May 1, 2020 10:19:45 GMT
Presumably YouTube content rules then?
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Post by theatremadness on May 1, 2020 12:01:19 GMT
Looks like that was the reason:
I am SO grateful to the NT and all involved for showing this, I loved it. The first 25 mins were a real physical acting masterclass from BC, I couldn't quite believe it. And what I would give to have seen this live and felt the full force of that filament bulb installation!! Can't wait to watch the swapped version, too. I feel like Victor is a part that would suit BC far more than the creature but his creature was simply outstanding so I can't wait to see his take on Victor and JLM's creature!
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Post by Polly1 on May 1, 2020 12:40:00 GMT
Re. the cut to Frankenstein, it is a pity as it really was a shocking moment but I was wondering how they would be able to show it on YouTube. I seem to remember there was an age guidance of 15+ for the production.
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Post by Polly1 on May 1, 2020 12:43:08 GMT
I can't find the posts now but re. the RSC Love's Labours Lost with Edward Bennett recommended by lynette among others, the director Christopher Luscombe has tweeted that it's available on Marquee Arts (where there is free 14 day trial).
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Post by bordeaux on May 1, 2020 14:17:56 GMT
For Ivo van Hove fans his Comédie Française version of Euripedes' Electra/Orestes will be broadcast on their La Comédie continue! link/youtube on Saturday 9th May, 20h30 French time. You have to watch it live. Recorded at Epidavros last summer.
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Post by David J on May 1, 2020 16:12:01 GMT
I found cumberbatch a more convincing monster than miller personally I was expecting someone to write that, and would be really curious to know why? My reason is mostly physique-influenced, tbh: Cumberbatch struck me as somehow both too elegant and too lanky for the Creature, his movements didn't seem as natural as Lee Miller's, who managed to better embody the clumsiness of the Creature and his/(its?) physical struggles for me. Don't get me wrong, I like them both as actors, and I think they were both absolutely terrific in the play, but it was that nuance that was crucial for me. I found his vocal rendition more inhuman than millers. I’d be scared away by him than miller. And I liked how his monster tried to grapple with the human language, enunciating as he could
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Post by tonylony on May 2, 2020 4:27:34 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on May 2, 2020 4:48:48 GMT
There's a new website that aggregates performances on a calendar! You may need to refresh the page when you land on it. But it's extremely convenient. curtaintimes.com/
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Post by Forrest on May 2, 2020 11:54:28 GMT
I found his vocal rendition more inhuman than millers. I’d be scared away by him than miller. And I liked how his monster tried to grapple with the human language, enunciating as he could That's a really interesting point! I did like his take on the language/pronunciation very much, and he seemed to maintain more consistency overall in his performance (JLM seemed to let the character slip a little at moments, but only a few), but it felt a tiny bit overacted, maybe. I rewatched both versions in the last two days, and I still think that JLM's Creature was more genuine, somehow: it may have something to do with the fact that his was more childlike, more easier to sympathise with, somehow sadder and more monstrous, in the way that it was basic. Benedict's felt like more of a man, his more of a creature, if that makes any sense whatsoever. Anyway... I do think the play has its flaws, but maybe it's just my proneness to prefer theatre that is slightly less polished. But it is fun and a good way to pass the time in quarantine.
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Post by intoanewlife on May 2, 2020 12:10:12 GMT
Just finished Frankenstein.
Great production and I loved the staging and lighting. The rest however...
The first 30 minutes was like torture as was the last 30 minutes. I did think the middle hour was great though.
I didn't like B.C as the monster AT ALL. So over the top, I just couldn't get on board. He never felt like a real character, just a performance.
Miller was good as the doctor I thought. Some VERY ordinary performances elsewhere though.
The direction was off quite a bit too. Apparently you can't achieve any sort of drama without people standing screaming at each other at the top of their lungs.
I'm sure it was different live, but it felt very meh in this format. Losing the big 'moment' of the show probably doesn't help.
Am gonna watch Miller's turn as the monster tomorrow, but even just flicking through it he looks MUCH better than B.C.
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Post by anthony40 on May 2, 2020 12:53:48 GMT
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Post by theatremadness on May 2, 2020 13:15:41 GMT
For me, BC's performances as the creature was outstanding. His physical acting was a true masterclass and I thought his vocal performance was spot on, I was with him all the way. I found he was far more childlike than JLM, who I felt was a bit too placed and choreographed, I didn't believe it half as near as much as I did BC, especially in the opening 10 mins or so. Not to diminish JLM's performance at all, but it felt like he was just going through the motions at points, whereas I thought BC was in it from start to finish and I was absolutely exhausted by the end! In fact, there's something about the JLM creature performance on the whole that felt a bit more lacking and labored than the BC creature performance. But as I say, that is completely just me!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 18:42:52 GMT
I remember seeing Frankenstein and being very underwhelmed, and the stream confirmed that opinion - great staging but classic style over substance. I also remember coming out feeling that the portrayal of women in it was icky. Not a high point for the NT for me. Would still probably go and see it over sitting home yet again this evening...
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 3, 2020 14:11:08 GMT
Well I hated Frankenstein. Why was everyone always shouting? Just so over the top.
At times if felt like a French and Saunders parody.
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Post by Forrest on May 3, 2020 14:27:53 GMT
Re: Frankenstein, I absolutely love and am thoroughly amused by how many different opinions there are on the same play, and the performances! :)
Did anyone see Milo Rau's 'La Reprise' on the Schaubuhne web site last night? I remembered it last minute and ended up watching it... And I loved it exactly as much as I thought I would based on Matt Trueman's review from last year, when it was on in Edinburgh during the Fringe. Such a terrific, difficult to watch, imaginatively done piece of theatre! (I've never seen anything he's done before, but I really hope there will be further opportunities...)
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Post by NeilVHughes on May 3, 2020 14:50:41 GMT
Re: Frankenstein
To me this was one that had to be experienced, made me appreciate and muse on the meaning of ‘Theatrical’ of which this was definitely a production that required attendance to truly appreciate.
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Post by alicechallice on May 3, 2020 14:57:33 GMT
Re. the cut to Frankenstein, it is a pity as it really was a shocking moment but I was wondering how they would be able to show it on YouTube. I seem to remember there was an age guidance of 15+ for the production. They also cut some of the death scenes in Treasure Island, presumably for the same reasons.
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Post by intoanewlife on May 3, 2020 15:03:31 GMT
Well I hated Frankenstein. Why was everyone always shouting? Yup that would be my biggest complaint as well.
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Post by crowblack on May 3, 2020 15:03:46 GMT
Did anyone see Milo Rau's 'La Reprise' on the Schaubuhne web site last night? I missed it, but it looks like they may be screening things again in coming weeks - the Hedda Gabler is on again this week.
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Post by peggs on May 3, 2020 18:06:18 GMT
Originally watched the nt live years back with BC as the creature and that was the way round I found more challenging to imagine and wasn't wildly impressed, a lot of sort of look at this production. Watched again the other way round the other day and was pleasantly surprised, now whether that was just that I knew what to expect so had no high expectations or that was my preferred way around i'm not sure. I re watched the other way and thought oh no again but that could have just been saturation point (though I kept just staring at JLM wig and thinking wig!). Karl Johnson was great though, reliably always seems to be.
Watched R and J from Globe and turns out there were whole scenes or bits I had no recollection of from 100 years ago at school or were cut in my one live experience (that odd WMCA one also at the globe).
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Post by londonpostie on May 3, 2020 18:19:18 GMT
Finished it last night and hugely impressed with Giri/Haji, a series the BBC did with Netflix - this is really superior quality drama. Not on the iPlayer but I believe it is still on Netflix. Very smart, superbly plotted, outstanding characterisation. And a bit of a love letter to London, as well
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Post by Forrest on May 3, 2020 18:51:20 GMT
I missed it, but it looks like they may be screening things again in coming weeks - the Hedda Gabler is on again this week. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention: I loved it, and am totally tempted to watch it again! Also, I see they'll be showing 'Jugend ohne Gott' again, which I missed the first time around. In German only, but I might give it a go and hope I'll manage to understand most of it with my shabby recollection of German.
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Post by NeilVHughes on May 3, 2020 20:24:24 GMT
What The Butler Saw - Curve Theatre
A simple one camera recording but the play was a joy, Orton has a way with the ridiculous phrase which is pure genius and haven’t laughed so much in ages. The only previous knowledge of Orton was Loot at the Park Theatre a few years ago which was equally ridiculous.
At its core institutions are primarily farcical therefore using farce to subvert institutions is inspired, a writer who I’d dismissed as the expectation and reality of his work in my mind were completely at odds.
After another weekend of confinement this was just the pick me up I needed.
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Post by l0islane on May 3, 2020 23:48:10 GMT
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 4, 2020 6:20:39 GMT
It's just a one camera job and the sound be better but the dog and I really enjoyed it
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