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Post by amp09 on Jul 19, 2019 22:47:23 GMT
Movies lie about their budget to make themselves sound more impressive all the time, so any figure in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt. It’s doubtless a very expensive film to make, though. Do you know if they ever “tell the truth” about the budget or is it always an inside secret? I always go by Wikipedia or Mojo or the like but who knows? I always find the financial side of things super interesting. I mean, to me, how do they ever think they will get the best profit they can if they pit it against the biggest/2nd biggest film of the year? Put it back 3 weeks and (IMO) they will make more money as they will be the biggest film of that week! obviously, they know what they are doing, I’m just an amateur enthusiast Putting it back three weeks puts them into weeks which are bulging with other Oscar contenders, which can make or break a film. It’s a completely different target audience, and definitely the film I want playing in my cinema over Christmas otherwise I’d have empty seats as Star Wars simply doesn’t work. |
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Post by ptwest on Jul 20, 2019 4:43:15 GMT
Just watched the trailer; I've made no secret of the fact that the stage version is one of my least favourite shows, but actually, I thought the trailer looked a lot better than I expected. The CGI is in keeping with the stage costumes, and the change of setting makes things more interesting. To be honest, in my own opinion, the CGI is no less creepy than the original was anyway. It still might be a big push for me to actually go and see this, but feel pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 20, 2019 7:16:19 GMT
If they just put legwarmers on the animals then all would be fine again
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 7:38:43 GMT
Putting it back three weeks puts them into weeks which are bulging with other Oscar contenders, which can make or break a film. It’s a completely different target audience, and definitely the film I want playing in my cinema over Christmas otherwise I’d have empty seats as Star Wars simply doesn’t work. The only film that’s announced to be released 3 weeks later currently is Sam Mendes 1917 which I don’t think is going to be aimed at children, unlike Star Wars. Regardless of whether you enjoy Star Wars or not (and I’m firmly in the not category) I hardly think it will playing to empty seats over Christmas. I mean, just look at the box office receipts for the last few! Toby Hooper (director of Cats movie) made the Les Mis movie and that didn’t break the $500,000,000 mark and LM is widely more successful than Cats |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 20, 2019 8:56:04 GMT
Cats will easily outgun Les Mis at the box office. Broader demographic appeal, affordability (compared to a west end/broadway show for a family of four for example), no underlying narrative to bore the kids for three hours (and I love Les Mis!) - many reasons why Cats will score big on screen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 8:58:33 GMT
Toby Hooper (director of Cats movie) made the Les Mis movie and that didn’t break the $500,000,000 mark and LM is widely more successful than Cats The success of them both as a musical is completely irrelevant. It is the cast of Cats that will drive the box office receipts and mean it will make vastly more money. |
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Post by amp09 on Jul 20, 2019 10:52:06 GMT
Putting it back three weeks puts them into weeks which are bulging with other Oscar contenders, which can make or break a film. It’s a completely different target audience, and definitely the film I want playing in my cinema over Christmas otherwise I’d have empty seats as Star Wars simply doesn’t work. The only film that’s announced to be released 3 weeks later currently is Sam Mendes 1917 which I don’t think is going to be aimed at children, unlike Star Wars. Regardless of whether you enjoy Star Wars or not (and I’m firmly in the not category) I hardly think it will playing to empty seats over Christmas. I mean, just look at the box office receipts for the last few! Toby Hooper (director of Cats movie) made the Les Mis movie and that didn’t break the $500,000,000 mark and LM is widely more successful than Cats There’s a lot more films that are planned for release around that time that haven’t been announced yet. All with Oscar buzz surrounding them. I never said it would play to empty seats everywhere, but as a cinema manager, I know it would play to empty seats in my cinema, whereas Cats would be sold out. Not every cinema has the same demographic. So all I’m saying really is I’d rather have Cats at Christmas and then remain busy over January-March with the large slate of Oscar films, instead of having to find space for Cats in January and being quiet at Christmas. I also disagree on the BO receipts. We’re expecting it to outperform Les Mis. I guess we wait and see, anything could happen between now and then to derail it, but it’s currently a strong contender in a lot of categories for the Oscars. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 11:02:17 GMT
Toby Hooper (director of Cats movie) made the Les Mis movie and that didn’t break the $500,000,000 mark and LM is widely more successful than Cats The success of them both as a musical is completely irrelevant. It is the cast of Cats that will drive the box office receipts and mean it will make vastly more money. Les Mis had Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway etc all bona fire movie stars who have and do open movies. Yes Taylor Swift is in Cats and she has a massive following in music but she is an unknown quantity when it comes to movies. Neither does judi or Ian. To say Cats will sell way more than les mis coz of the cast doesn’t ring try to me and I do feel both of them being musicals is relevant. Remember lots of people aren’t like us and won’t go coz it’s a musical, that’s why musicals aren’t such a prevalent gene at the cinema as say horror |
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Post by amp09 on Jul 20, 2019 12:10:54 GMT
The success of them both as a musical is completely irrelevant. It is the cast of Cats that will drive the box office receipts and mean it will make vastly more money. Les Mis had Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway etc all bona fire movie stars who have and do open movies. Yes Taylor Swift is in Cats and she has a massive following in music but she is an unknown quantity when it comes to movies. Neither does judi or Ian. To say Cats will sell way more than les mis coz of the cast doesn’t ring try to me and I do feel both of them being musicals is relevant. Remember lots of people aren’t like us and won’t go coz it’s a musical, that’s why musicals aren’t such a prevalent gene at the cinema as say horror Put Judi and Ian in any film and I promise it sells out at my cinema every night. No matter whether it’s good or bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 12:15:34 GMT
Yes Taylor Swift is in Cats and she has a massive following in music but she is an unknown quantity when it comes to movies. She's already been in several movies, even if you discount her cameo in the Hannah Montana movie. None of them will go down in history as all-time greats but it's not like she's entirely new to the medium. |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 20, 2019 12:34:41 GMT
Les Mis had Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway etc all bona fire movie stars Yes, but this has cats. Lots and lots of cats. |
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Post by horton on Jul 20, 2019 13:00:24 GMT
Wasn't Judi's last musical 'Nine'?...
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Post by learfan on Jul 20, 2019 19:26:18 GMT
Cats will easily outgun Les Mis at the box office. Broader demographic appeal, affordability (compared to a west end/broadway show for a family of four for example), no underlying narrative to bore the kids for three hours (and I love Les Mis!) - many reasons why Cats will score big on screen. Having seen the weirder than weird trailer, i really dont think it will! |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 20, 2019 19:51:05 GMT
cartoonbrew.com has tweeted pics and links to concept artwork from earlier unmade animated film versions of Cats, if anyone's interested.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 20, 2019 19:53:13 GMT
I’ve had an email from CATS telling me to watch the trailer. Err... no thank you I’ve still not recovered. I assume LW theatres sold them my email address so thanks for that Andy.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 20, 2019 23:38:47 GMT
Cats will easily outgun Les Mis at the box office. Broader demographic appeal, affordability (compared to a west end/broadway show for a family of four for example), no underlying narrative to bore the kids for three hours (and I love Les Mis!) - many reasons why Cats will score big on screen. Having seen the weirder than weird trailer, i really dont think it will! I'd put my house on it. Very confident this film will fly. |
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Post by Fleance on Jul 21, 2019 0:12:31 GMT
I just realized, in cleaning out my closet to avoid going out into our NYC heat wave, that I have the DVD of Cats, produced in 1998. It has Elaine Page and John Mills. What it does not have, is the whole Growltiger/Billy M'Caw episode, which is my favorite part of the show. I think that segment was omitted from the initial Broadway production as well. The Blue-ray DVD says "Ultimate Edition," but it hardly seems that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 0:15:06 GMT
Yes Taylor Swift is in Cats and she has a massive following in music but she is an unknown quantity when it comes to movies. She has 119 million Instagram followers - her pedigree in movies really has nothing whatsoever to do with how many tickets her name alone will shift. |
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Jul 21, 2019 8:21:24 GMT
OK so I've never seen Cats, but that trailer. Good grief. There's some great nightmare fuel in there, let me tell you.
Side note: Oh Dame Judi, what have you let yourself in for? Was she blackmailed or...?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 8:28:31 GMT
I’ve had an email from CATS telling me to watch the trailer. Err... no thank you I’ve still not recovered. I assume LW theatres sold them my email address so thanks for that Andy. Covered in the Really Useful Group, so no sale persay. You may even have registered yourself with RUG previously a few years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 8:36:18 GMT
Interesting perspective here on the 'saga' with some actual credible insight rather than opinion...
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 21, 2019 9:11:44 GMT
Why don't they just chuck in some clowns to exacerbate the nightmare siituion?
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Post by sparky5000 on Jul 21, 2019 9:17:03 GMT
I do wonder how many of the people who are breaking the internet with their Cats comments and memes have ever actually seen Cats the Musical! 😆 🤷🏻♀️ That said, this tweet from Lesli Margherita of her dog’s reaction to the trailer is my fave by far! 😂😂😂
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Post by ncbears on Jul 21, 2019 14:50:40 GMT
I just realized, in cleaning out my closet to avoid going out into our NYC heat wave, that I have the DVD of Cats, produced in 1998. It has Elaine Page and John Mills. What it does not have, is the whole Growltiger/Billy M'Caw episode, which is my favorite part of the show. I think that segment was omitted from the initial Broadway production as well. The Blue-ray DVD says "Ultimate Edition," but it hardly seems that. The "official" explanation for the absence of Growltiger was that John Mills was too old to perform it. That didn't make sense to me - because given that Growltiger is a memory Gus sings about, there could have been another actor for that portion. I've seen comments that it was a budgetary decision or a time decision. One benefit was that my daughter who watched the VHS(!) endlessly was surprised to see the additional sequence when we took her to see Cats on Broadway near the end of its initial run. (Dumb father promise to young child endlessly watching the VHS tape: "sure, we will take you to see Cats on Broadway" since, of course, Cats is forever. HA! Shortly thereafter, Cats announces closing, so, a promise is a promise. And though we lived in North Carolina, and though she was just five and a half years old, off we went. She was a perfect audience member and remembers it fondly to this day) |
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Post by horton on Jul 21, 2019 15:58:31 GMT
I agree with that dog.
And Growltiger (including Billy McCaw) was always my favourite part of the show.
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