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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 7, 2021 8:12:49 GMT
Yes, I think Edward probably did love Wallis more than she loved him. With Meghan and Harry I think it’s safe to say that they love each other is undeniable, so at least they have that going for them. I feel sorry for Archie in all of this. His grandad will be King when he’s growing up, his uncle will be King when he’s an adult and his cousin a King when he’s an old man yet he’ll be half a world away probably never really knowing them. Archie’s grandfather will never be king. Die before the queen?
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Post by londonpostie on Mar 7, 2021 8:44:47 GMT
James Hewitt enters the chat ..
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 7, 2021 8:51:41 GMT
James Hewitt enters the chat .. He he Charles or Harry pushing this though?
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Post by hannechalk on Mar 7, 2021 12:22:40 GMT
For as many of the pictures where the queen appears to have swallowed a wasp, or seems to be menacingly glaring at Meghan, I can post pictures of the same events where she is smiling, laughing or talking animatedly with Meghan.
Same would happen if I took 100 pictures of you at say a wedding - there will be plenty of you seemingly looking bored and miserable, or giving the bride and groom side-eye or the evils, and plenty of you being relaxed, smiling, laughing and joking, getting emotional or talking to the bride and groom.
It's just a snapshot of a moment.
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Post by sfsusan on Mar 7, 2021 12:50:45 GMT
> A biography of Charles published years ago quoted a fortune-teller as predicting Charles would never hold the throne. As to the current rumors that the Queen would abdicate in favor of William, she's such a stickler for tradition (and grew up with a mother that resented the Duke of Windsor for abdicating) that I can't imagine her doing that. James Hewitt enters the chat .. I can't find anything online... has he voiced an opinion on Meghan? Or is it the story about him being a gardener in Devon?
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Post by crabtree on Mar 7, 2021 12:58:34 GMT
If the couple want to distant themselves from their royal heritage, please stop cashing in on it with such high profiles interviews. That's hardly distanting themselves. They should start from scratch as harry and Meghan Windsor
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 7, 2021 14:02:18 GMT
> A biography of Charles published years ago quoted a fortune-teller as predicting Charles would never hold the throne. As to the current rumors that the Queen would abdicate in favor of William, she's such a stickler for tradition (and grew up with a mother that resented the Duke of Windsor for abdicating) that I can't imagine her doing that. Not a chance. I thought they believed it was a divine right from God to rule. No way we are skipping a generation
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Post by steve10086 on Mar 7, 2021 14:18:26 GMT
I imagine that if William decided he wanted to “step back” from royal duties and make his own way in the world he’d go back to being a rescue helicopter pilot, or something like that.
Harry has decided to be a “celebrity”. That’ll definitely give him the privacy he’s so desperate for 🙄
Don’t care about either of them.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 7, 2021 16:08:06 GMT
Oh, what a mess this all is- on a personal and a professional level.
And what a predicament that Oprah is in. She is a friend and attended the wedding.
I'm sure she doesn't want to see her friends hurting.
Regardless what is said, it might be one of the few things that knocks COVID of the top story on the news.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 7, 2021 17:02:59 GMT
Oprah is loving the controversy.
She is making huge sums out of it.
Remember that she is a business owner first and foremost.
This has been sold round the world. Which is exactly what she wanted.
H&M are using Oprah to raise their profile
Oprah is using them to make money
And people are falling for it
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 7, 2021 17:07:00 GMT
Oh, I am completely aware of the money side of things. That's why I referred to the personal side of things
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Post by Jan on Mar 7, 2021 17:56:00 GMT
Not a chance. I thought they believed it was a divine right from God to rule. You are mixing up Elizabeth I with Elizabeth II.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 7, 2021 18:08:42 GMT
I very much doubt that Meghan and Oprah are friends. It would be astonishing if a little known actress from a Canadian soap had the connections that we saw at the wedding. I doubt that she’d even met most of those a-list stars, but no surprise that they accepted the invitation. From Meghan’s own lips Oprah asked her for an interview when she got engaged, got turned down and she actually told Oprah “not now but maybe another time”. Hmm ok so she’s just about to get married into the RF and she’s already negotiating interviews with Oprah at some later date. Classy.
Anyhoo... royalty. This is it ⬇️ not that ⬆️
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Post by sph on Mar 7, 2021 18:39:03 GMT
I very much doubt that Meghan and Oprah are friends. It would be astonishing if a little known actress from a Canadian soap had the connections that we saw at the wedding. I doubt that she’d even met most of those a-list stars, but no surprise that they accepted the invitation. From Meghan’s own lips Oprah asked her for an interview when she got engaged, got turned down and she actually told Oprah “not now but maybe another time”. Hmm ok so she’s just about to get married into the RF and she’s already negotiating interviews with Oprah at some later date. Classy. I don't think that she was genuinely planning a future interview when she said that. "Maybe some other time" is just a polite way of saying no. You're right about it being unlikely that they were friends before that though. She wasn't a "star" per se, before meeting Harry. She was a working TV actress. I don't think it was all calculated from the beginning, however. She did seem to give life as a Royal a go, but it's a mould that Harry himself never seemed to entirely fit as well, remember.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 7, 2021 19:14:58 GMT
Not a chance. I thought they believed it was a divine right from God to rule. You are mixing up Elizabeth I with Elizabeth II. Charles I with Elizabeth II.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 7, 2021 19:18:24 GMT
Come on this interview tonight surely cannot go bad, when was the last time a royal did an interview and it went horrible wrong?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 7, 2021 19:27:31 GMT
I very much doubt that Meghan and Oprah are friends. It would be astonishing if a little known actress from a Canadian soap had the connections that we saw at the wedding. I doubt that she’d even met most of those a-list stars, but no surprise that they accepted the invitation. From Meghan’s own lips Oprah asked her for an interview when she got engaged, got turned down and she actually told Oprah “not now but maybe another time”. Hmm ok so she’s just about to get married into the RF and she’s already negotiating interviews with Oprah at some later date. Classy. She was a working TV actress. Year Title Role Notes 2002 General Hospital Jill 1 episode[28][29] 2004 Century City Natasha 1 episode "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Lose" (season 1: episode 4) 2005 Cuts Cori 1 episode "My Boyfriend's Back" (season 1: episode 5) 2005 Love, Inc. Teresa Santos 1 episode "One on One" (season 1: episode 9) 2006 1 vs. 100 Herself 1 episode Mob member number 7 2006 The War at Home Susan 1 episode "The Seventeen-Year Itch" (season 1: episode 17) 2006 CSI: NY Veronica Perez 1 episode "Murder Sings the Blues" (season 3: episode 7) 2006 Deceit Gwen Television movie Deal or No Deal Herself Holder of Case #24; 34 episodes[196] 2008 Good Behavior Sadie Valencia Television movie 2008 90210 Wendy 1 episode "We're Not in Kansas Anymore" (season 1: episode 1) "The Jet Set" (season 1: episode 2) 2008 'Til Death Tara 1 episode "Joy Ride" (season 3: episode 2) 2008 The Apostles Kelly Calhoun Television movie 2009 Knight Rider Annie Ortiz 1 episode "Fight Knight" (season 1: episode 14) 2009 Without a Trace Holly Shepard 1 episode "Chameleon" (season 7: episode 15) 2009 Fringe Junior FBI Agent Amy Jessup 2 episodes "A New Day in the Old Town" (season 2: episode 1) "Night of Desirable Objects" (season 2: episode 2) 2009 The League Random Girl 1 episode "The Bounce Test" (season 1: episode 2) 2010 CSI: Miami Officer Leah Montoya 1 episode "Backfire" (season 8: episode 20) 2010 The Boys & Girls Guide to Getting Down Dana Television movie 2011–2018 Suits Rachel Zane Series regular (seasons 1–7), 108 episodes (Markle's final scene was filmed in 2017) 2012 Castle Charlotte Boyd/Sleeping Beauty 1 episode "Once Upon a Crime" (season 4: episode 17) 2014 When Sparks Fly Amy Peterson Hallmark Channel television movies 2016 Dater's Handbook Cassandra Brand 2021 Oprah with Meghan and Harry Herself CBS Special interview
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 7, 2021 19:30:49 GMT
MY THOUGHTS.
MEGHAN / RACISMFrom the short clips of the interview, I don't believe for one second Meghan didn't know what to expect regarding the Royal Family, I find that hard to believe and doesn't sit right with me! Sorry. YOU WOULD KNOW, HUN. However, you cannot deny the sheer racism and double standards that the press and hate that she received on social media. Not only from the media - trolls too - which is something that seriously is an issue on social media as you all will know! Meghan has handed herself with dignity and pose, I am disappointed that she didn't have a chance to do more work with the National Theatre, it was so perfect. I have so much admiration for Harry, a man who wanted to protect his wife and child. Royalty or no royalty, he's 'JUST A MAN.' (Oh what, I did an ALW....) I am conflicted about the Royal Family - I would not consider myself a Royalist at all - but I do love the younger Royals like Harry, William and Kate for all the work they do with mental health etc. & also Eugenie for her scoliosis awareness) www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/racism-meghan-harry-stand-down_uk_5e17138dc5b6b32c72bdeba2PRINCE ANDREW WHO / BULLYING?Following on from a comment I posted in here earlier, everyone just just seems to forgotten about Prince Andrew and his involvement with Epstein. It's cowardly and been forgotten about. The bullying accusations are a DECOY. Buckingham Palace are just throwing Meghan under the bus. Which brings me to this....If the bullying was a thing - why would they have come out ONLY now before this interview? HOWEVER, on the flip side, you could then argue that it's historic and not to vilify the members of the household. The truth is, no one will know the truth bar Meghan/Harry and the staff involved. It's impossible to speculate who is telling the truth. MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND ONTO MY FINAL POINT. The pressure that the American network was to postpone this...THEY WOULDN'T. Oprah is a business mogel. Friend or not to Meghan - she is making a sh*t ton of money and is the last one laughing. It's worked. We're talking about it!!! I won't be watching the full interview tomorrow on ITV as it will be all over the news prior considering it's being broadcast in the USA tonight.
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Post by sph on Mar 7, 2021 19:31:57 GMT
Yeah I'd call that a pretty decent TV career! Not top-shelf TV Star, but definitely a steady working actress.
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Post by sfsusan on Mar 7, 2021 19:51:55 GMT
I don't believe for one second Meghan didn't know what to expect regarding the Royal Family, I find that hard to believe If Diana and Fergie (who were raised around aristocracy and royalty) were blindsided by what to expect and had trouble fitting in, I don't find it hard to believe that an American would be even more so. I would hope that having learned their lesson from those experiences, The Firm (both the family and the courtiers) would have tried to brace Meghan for what was to come (and all the rules and restrictions she'd be expected to follow). But when you're young and in love, you tend to think, "oh, it won't be that bad...". Until it is. There might have been good reasons why past royal families tended to marry other royal families... they knew what to expect and how to handle it (that was the women's 'jobs' and they'd generally been trained to it from childhood).
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Post by karloscar on Mar 7, 2021 20:10:00 GMT
Well a bunch ofthose trusted old royal commentators like Ingrid Sewer and Dickie Arbiter have been duped into criticizing the interview before it even airs on such ludicrous subjects as the Duchess refusing to have the covid vaccine. Take any reaction you hear in the next few days with a truckload of salt.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 7, 2021 20:16:48 GMT
Again- regardless of the truth or not- it's gonna knock COVID off the top spot on the news
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 7, 2021 20:19:23 GMT
I don't believe for one second Meghan didn't know what to expect regarding the Royal Family, I find that hard to believe If Diana and Fergie (who were raised around aristocracy and royalty) were blindsided by what to expect and had trouble fitting in, I don't find it hard to believe that an American would be even more so. I would hope that having learned their lesson from those experiences, The Firm (both the family and the courtiers) would have tried to brace Meghan for what was to come (and all the rules and restrictions she'd be expected to follow). But when you're young and in love, you tend to think, "oh, it won't be that bad...". Until it is. There might have been good reasons why past royal families tended to marry other royal families... they knew what to expect and how to handle it (that was the women's 'jobs' and they'd generally been trained to it from childhood). OH MY GOODNESS. YES. Didn't even consider that viewpoint! Thanks for sharing / explaining x
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 7, 2021 20:51:14 GMT
Diana died at the hands of the press. Sarah was ousted from the royal family at the hands of the press. Anyone marrying into that family claiming not to know what might happen is, in my opinion, lying.
Remember when Catherine and William “split up” in about 2004/2005 only to get back together again and get engaged? That was (in my opinion) thinking time for her. Take stock, are you really sure you can handle it? She did, and she has barely put a foot wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 21:13:28 GMT
I don't believe for one second Meghan didn't know what to expect regarding the Royal Family, I find that hard to believe If Diana and Fergie (who were raised around aristocracy and royalty) were blindsided by what to expect and had trouble fitting in, I don't find it hard to believe that an American would be even more so. I would hope that having learned their lesson from those experiences, The Firm (both the family and the courtiers) would have tried to brace Meghan for what was to come (and all the rules and restrictions she'd be expected to follow). But when you're young and in love, you tend to think, "oh, it won't be that bad...". Until it is. There might have been good reasons why past royal families tended to marry other royal families... they knew what to expect and how to handle it (that was the women's 'jobs' and they'd generally been trained to it from childhood). That was a different era, before the age of digital media and social media. And both of their experiences are well publicised now, plus Kate had joined the Royal Family not that long before Meghan. It's naive in the extreme to think that Meghan didn't have a wealth of resources to tell her exactly what it would be like and what she would be giving up. She may have blinded by love into thinking she wouldn't have the same experience, but at the end of the day it was her free choice and she must have known what she was marrying into, or else a product of her own naivety or lack of research.
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