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Post by og on Nov 14, 2022 10:50:01 GMT
Is this 'cancel culture' in action again, then? What makes you say that? |
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Nov 14, 2022 10:54:17 GMT
BTS chat
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 14, 2022 10:57:02 GMT
Will investigate, but this was very much still on the last time I heard
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Post by max on Nov 14, 2022 11:20:46 GMT
Pushed out of the West End in favour of a musical about the Korean boy band?! Then I realised your BTS stood for 'behind the scenes', lol. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 14, 2022 14:37:35 GMT
Well it’s definitely NOT going to the Phoenix that I know. A huge new play is booked to go in there next year.
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Post by Jon on Nov 14, 2022 14:55:03 GMT
Well it’s definitely NOT going to the Phoenix that I know. A huge new play is booked to go in there next year. I'm guessing The Shining? I don't get the upset over ITW not transferring, it's not a given for any show to transfer to the West End and these shows are not meant to be try outs. |
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Post by og on Nov 14, 2022 15:06:59 GMT
Well it’s definitely NOT going to the Phoenix that I know. A huge new play is booked to go in there next year. I'm guessing The Shining? I don't get the upset over ITW not transferring, it's not a given for any show to transfer to the West End and these shows are not meant to be try outs. I suspect the upset isn't specifically because London doesn't get a transfer, its more personal disappointment of not being able to see the show. Noone ever said "Im looking forward to seeing the west end run after the Bath try-out".People were under the impression there would be the opportunity to see the show in a location more convenient to visit. A trip to Bath in the summer holidays isn't feasible for a lot of people for a myriad of reasons (travel, work commitments, family commitments, etc) and there was real confidence in the view that they'd get a chance to experience it in London. As that view fades, there's bound to be despondency. Furthermore, this was a production that started it's life in London, so there was always a strong belief it would return. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 14, 2022 15:09:08 GMT
Well it’s definitely NOT going to the Phoenix that I know. A huge new play is booked to go in there next year. I'm guessing The Shining? I don't get the upset over ITW not transferring, it's not a given for any show to transfer to the West End and these shows are not meant to be try outs. Not The Shining |
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Post by Jon on Nov 14, 2022 15:12:00 GMT
Not to poke but is it new new or a revival? There's a few plays that are in limbo because of the pandemic such as the Jessica Chastain A Doll's House and Oedipus with Mark Strong but they wouldn't be new per se. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 14, 2022 15:13:10 GMT
It’s a brand new play of an existing title.
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Post by Jon on Nov 14, 2022 15:18:06 GMT
It’s a brand new play of an existing title. Such a tease, have to say I'm happy to see the Phoenix used for plays as it's never solely been a musical house. |
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Post by Rory on Nov 14, 2022 16:05:09 GMT
I'm guessing The Shining? I don't get the upset over ITW not transferring, it's not a given for any show to transfer to the West End and these shows are not meant to be try outs. I suspect the upset isn't specifically because London doesn't get a transfer, its more personal disappointment of not being able to see the show. Noone ever said "Im looking forward to seeing the west end run after the Bath try-out".People were under the impression there would be the opportunity to see the show in a location more convenient to visit. A trip to Bath in the summer holidays isn't feasible for a lot of people for a myriad of reasons (travel, work commitments, family commitments, etc) and there was real confidence in the view that they'd get a chance to experience it in London. As that view fades, there's bound to be despondency. Furthermore, this was a production that started it's life in London, so there was always a strong belief it would return. Couldn't have put it better myself. The Bath run was always set up with a London transfer in mind and one of the producers Anthony Lilley had relatively recently tweeted to someone querying if there was a producer who could give it a London run something along the lines of 'it has producers attached so don't worry about that". Several posters on here were saying that a Phoenix announcement was imminent (although as an aside I am noticing these days that many things being said on here are not coming to pass or are proving inaccurate in the end, but hey, plans change). This was a show that I had tickets booked for at the Old Vic, was disappointed when it was cancelled, and I couldn't get to Bath within its limited run there. Am a big Sondheim fan and will be disappointed if this doesn't arrive when Sunday in the Park has already been binned. |
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Post by tal on Nov 14, 2022 16:28:55 GMT
Well it’s definitely NOT going to the Phoenix that I know. A huge new play is booked to go in there next year. I'm really hoping My Neighbor Totoro transfers from the Barbican. That is definitely a huge new play, even though I'm not sure the Phoenix stage would be large enough to accommodate that production. |
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Post by Jon on Nov 14, 2022 16:41:41 GMT
It's possible that a transfer was lined up then fell through. It's not that unusual for that to happen.
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Post by og on Nov 14, 2022 16:44:41 GMT
It's possible that a transfer was lined up then fell through. It's not that unusual for that to happen. Ah ok thanks for clarifying, I'm not disappointed now. |
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Post by danb on Nov 14, 2022 18:23:21 GMT
Less than optimistic at this point; from the chatter that’s been going on. Well this is very disappointing, if accurate. This is the one I really want to see and was waiting to hear about before I book my next London trip. Is this what you have heard too, danb and Being Alive? Not a sausage…but, yes, the money quite often falls through for these things. It wasn’t a sell out in Bath (no flop though either) and the reviews weren’t stellar. Without it being a sure thing I can well imagine whoever's feet were tepid, quickly got a chill. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 14, 2022 20:11:19 GMT
Well it’s definitely NOT going to the Phoenix that I know. A huge new play is booked to go in there next year. I'm really hoping My Neighbor Totoro transfers from the Barbican. That is definitely a huge new play, even though I'm not sure the Phoenix stage would be large enough to accommodate that production. Erm. It’s certainly not that. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 14, 2022 20:12:05 GMT
The truth is that industry people who saw it didn’t think it was good, and that includes theatre owners. It’s more than likely that none want to give it one of their theatres and I can’t blame them.
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Post by Rory on Nov 14, 2022 21:01:50 GMT
It’s a brand new play of an existing title. Icke's Oedipus? |
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Post by Rory on Nov 14, 2022 21:03:01 GMT
The truth is that industry people who saw it didn’t think it was good, and that includes theatre owners. It’s more than likely that none want to give it one of their theatres and I can’t blame them. Mind you, there is some absolute crap going into some of these West End theatres so some of them aren't too discerning. |
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Post by Jon on Nov 14, 2022 21:03:24 GMT
It’s a brand new play of an existing title. Icke's Oedipus? Wouldn't that be a revival rather than a new play? Unless it's like Yerma. |
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Nov 14, 2022 21:48:51 GMT
The truth is that industry people who saw it didn’t think it was good, and that includes theatre owners. It’s more than likely that none want to give it one of their theatres and I can’t blame them. Can confirm this was what I have heard as well. |
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Post by hadeswasking on Nov 14, 2022 21:50:41 GMT
This thread is just wanting to break my heart today!
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Post by Jon on Nov 14, 2022 22:41:55 GMT
Mind you, there is some absolute crap going into some of these West End theatres so some of them aren't too discerning. Theatre owners will get more punters at say the Dominion at Dirty Dancing than they would with Into The Woods which to be blunt would die a death in that venue. It's all about maximising bums on seats. |
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Post by danb on Nov 15, 2022 5:17:49 GMT
…but imagine the fun they could have with the giants!!! They could live in that dis-used circle and stomp down over our heads. If only the world were a better place 😬
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