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Post by alece10 on Aug 22, 2022 18:12:00 GMT
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Post by theatrelover123 on Aug 22, 2022 18:21:57 GMT
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Post by hadeswasking on Aug 22, 2022 18:35:31 GMT
Do they? They do |
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Post by alece10 on Aug 22, 2022 18:59:24 GMT
Indeed they do 😀
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Post by jacob on Aug 22, 2022 19:03:08 GMT
I second this, not sure about the cheek here !! Super excited to finally be seeing the show later this week ,after initially hearing about it being moved over to Bath. Such a privilege to get to see this one so close to home  |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 22, 2022 19:06:43 GMT
The rest of the ones on the IG post are more interesting I think.
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Post by Sotongal on Aug 22, 2022 21:17:32 GMT
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Post by bobby on Aug 22, 2022 21:32:40 GMT
Reading all these amazing reviews and comments, I hope the Old Vic are now suitably holding their head in shame and embarrassment by not letting this production premiere there. Well done to the Theatre Royal, Bath for picking this up and hopefully if it does transfer will get some money out of it.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Aug 22, 2022 21:42:44 GMT
Reading all these amazing reviews and comments, I hope the Old Vic are now suitably holding their head in shame and embarrassment by not letting this production premiere there. Well done to the Theatre Royal, Bath for picking this up and hopefully if it does transfer will get some money out of it. Why should they hold their heads in shame and embarrassment? You do know what happened, right? Good for them on standing their ground, I say. They also don’t need to be rehashing this show again. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick this up. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 22, 2022 21:49:46 GMT
Reading all these amazing reviews and comments, I hope the Old Vic are now suitably holding their head in shame and embarrassment by not letting this production premiere there. Well done to the Theatre Royal, Bath for picking this up and hopefully if it does transfer will get some money out of it. Why should they hold their heads in shame and embarrassment? You do know what happened, right? Good for them on standing their ground, I say. They also don’t need to be rehashing this show again. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick this up. I agree. I don’t imagine they are really that bothered. They made the decision they felt was right. |
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Post by bobby on Aug 22, 2022 22:09:36 GMT
I know exactly what happened and perhaps you should be careful and read up more about what was actually said before commenting. All I am saying is that The Old Vic have lost out here on what is potentially a commercial success, which is certainly something all theatres would benefit from at the moment in the current climate. You are almost dismissing the morals of the board of The Theatre Royal, Bath for taking Terry Gilliam on, which is holy unfair. Or in your opinion, should all audiences boycott the show as well for expressing his views? At the end of the day, Gilliam is a director; Into the Woods is a brilliant musical and has not been commercially produced in the West End for many years. The Old Vic’s loss is Bath’s gain, as will be the producers who potentially bring this in.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 22, 2022 22:10:31 GMT
Reading all these amazing reviews and comments, I hope the Old Vic are now suitably holding their head in shame and embarrassment by not letting this production premiere there. Well done to the Theatre Royal, Bath for picking this up and hopefully if it does transfer will get some money out of it. Why should they hold their heads in shame and embarrassment? You do know what happened, right? Good for them on standing their ground, I say. They also don’t need to be rehashing this show again. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick this up. I don't see your logic there. It was unacceptable to stage this at the old Vic. But it was acceptable for it to be staged out in the provinces.... How do those things together make sense? Are the Old Vic allowed to have principles but regional theatre can get by without them? You either think Gilliam should be allowed to create theatre or he shouldn't. The location shouldn't matter. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 22, 2022 22:14:57 GMT
I know exactly what happened and perhaps you should be careful and read up more about what was actually said before commenting. All I am saying is that The Old Vic have lost out here on what is potentially a commercial success, which is certainly something all theatres would benefit from at the moment in the current climate. You are almost dismissing the morals of the board of The Theatre Royal, Bath for taking Terry Gilliam on, which is holy unfair. Or in your opinion, should all audiences boycott the show as well for expressing his views? At the end of the day, Gilliam is a director; Into the Woods is a brilliant musical and has not been commercially produced in the West End for many years. The Old Vic’s loss is Bath’s gain, as will be the producers who potentially bring this in. This isn’t going to be the next Hamilton, however wonderful it is. There are no star names in it and it’s pretty niche. It ain’t gonna make anyone rich. They are probably more focused on reviving Groundhog Day which WILL bring them some extra cash. |
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Post by theatrelover123 on Aug 22, 2022 22:36:35 GMT
Why should they hold their heads in shame and embarrassment? You do know what happened, right? Good for them on standing their ground, I say. They also don’t need to be rehashing this show again. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick this up. I don't see your logic there. It was unacceptable to stage this at the old Vic. But it was acceptable for it to be staged out in the provinces.... How do those things together make sense? Are the Old Vic allowed to have principles but regional theatre can get by without them? You either think Gilliam should be allowed to create theatre or he shouldn't. The location shouldn't matter. Sorry. You misunderstood. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick up a show like this with a big name director to bring in crowds and increase revenue and popularity. I wasn’t saying that any other theatres would have taken the same or different stance as the Old Vic. I have no strong opinions on whether Gilliam should be making theatre or not. I didn’t say his views played any part in that. I do admire the Old Vic for making a principled stand based on the evidence presented to them and listening to views of others though. |
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Post by theatrelover123 on Aug 22, 2022 22:39:14 GMT
I know exactly what happened and perhaps you should be careful and read up more about what was actually said before commenting. All I am saying is that The Old Vic have lost out here on what is potentially a commercial success, which is certainly something all theatres would benefit from at the moment in the current climate. You are almost dismissing the morals of the board of The Theatre Royal, Bath for taking Terry Gilliam on, which is holy unfair. Or in your opinion, should all audiences boycott the show as well for expressing his views? At the end of the day, Gilliam is a director; Into the Woods is a brilliant musical and has not been commercially produced in the West End for many years. The Old Vic’s loss is Bath’s gain, as will be the producers who potentially bring this in. Oh and I don’t need to be careful and read more and I am not dismissing the morals of the board of the TRB. You have conflated several points and got angry without first asking questions. |
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Post by hadeswasking on Aug 22, 2022 23:33:44 GMT
I don't see your logic there. It was unacceptable to stage this at the old Vic. But it was acceptable for it to be staged out in the provinces.... How do those things together make sense? Are the Old Vic allowed to have principles but regional theatre can get by without them? You either think Gilliam should be allowed to create theatre or he shouldn't. The location shouldn't matter. Sorry. You misunderstood. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick up a show like this with a big name director to bring in crowds and increase revenue and popularity. I wasn’t saying that any other theatres would have taken the same or different stance as the Old Vic. I have no strong opinions on whether Gilliam should be making theatre or not. I didn’t say his views played any part in that. I do admire the Old Vic for making a principled stand based on the evidence presented to them and listening to views of others though. Judging by this topic you seem to be actively against a show you've not seen. Putting people down with negative sarcastic comments. There's just no need, there's more than 1 person that make up a production, he's not even the only director. |
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Post by og on Aug 23, 2022 6:27:36 GMT
Alot of what plays into a production's artistic success is what happens in the rehearsal room and in the process before that. Who's to say that the team assembled by Old Vic may have functioned differently (or not at all) making different creative decisions under the helm of TG, leading to a vastly different show. Old Vic could have staged it, with it turning out to be a hodge-podge of ideas, different physical or financial restrictions and ultimately a poorly received end product.
All that matters really is the artistic success of this production, which will come to light with the imminent press night, but reactions so far do seem very positive.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Aug 23, 2022 6:35:31 GMT
Sorry. You misunderstood. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick up a show like this with a big name director to bring in crowds and increase revenue and popularity. I wasn’t saying that any other theatres would have taken the same or different stance as the Old Vic. I have no strong opinions on whether Gilliam should be making theatre or not. I didn’t say his views played any part in that. I do admire the Old Vic for making a principled stand based on the evidence presented to them and listening to views of others though. Judging by this topic you seem to be actively against a show you've not seen. Putting people down with negative sarcastic comments. There's just no need, there's more than 1 person that make up a production, he's not even the only director. Nope. Not “put people down”. Not “actively against this show”. Have said that it lacks originality in the look of it. Based on the images seen. Which is what many many people do. On this board. And elsewhere. Perfectly entitled to make judgements and have opinions based on images rather than seeing the whole show. This board would be shut down if that wasn’t allowed. You have made unfounded accusations against me and sorry, but there’s “no need’ for those. |
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Post by hadeswasking on Aug 23, 2022 7:16:07 GMT
Judging by this topic you seem to be actively against a show you've not seen. Putting people down with negative sarcastic comments. There's just no need, there's more than 1 person that make up a production, he's not even the only director. Nope. Not “put people down”. Not “actively against this show”. Have said that it lacks originality in the look of it. Based on the images seen. Which is what many many people do. On this board. And elsewhere. Perfectly entitled to make judgements and have opinions based on images rather than seeing the whole show. This board would be shut down if that wasn’t allowed. You have made unfounded accusations against me and sorry, but there’s “no need’ for those. I'll drop this here. I don't want to make any more "unfounded accusations" based on comments you yourself made. I never meant that it was not okay to make judgements, but there's better ways of going about it than putting down others. |
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Post by jacob on Aug 23, 2022 7:25:45 GMT
righty then ..
my take is that yes, it’s a loss for The Old Vic- but the irony of it is that ITW is not selling out every show at TTRB. They willingly turned it down and we’ve got it now! it’ll turn up in London sooner or later .. no different to an out of town tryout. Gilliam’s statements are slightly ridiculous, but that won’t stop me from supporting a fantastically done revival so close to me already.. and I do still want to watch and congratulate everyone else a part of it
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Post by theatrelover123 on Aug 23, 2022 7:26:46 GMT
Nope. Not “put people down”. Not “actively against this show”. Have said that it lacks originality in the look of it. Based on the images seen. Which is what many many people do. On this board. And elsewhere. Perfectly entitled to make judgements and have opinions based on images rather than seeing the whole show. This board would be shut down if that wasn’t allowed. You have made unfounded accusations against me and sorry, but there’s “no need’ for those. I'm sorry, I'll drop this here. I don't want to make any more "unfounded accusations" based on comments you yourself made. I never meant that it was not okay to make judgements, but there's better ways of going about it than putting down others. Thanks for the apology. |
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 23, 2022 7:58:28 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 23, 2022 10:02:46 GMT
I don't see your logic there. It was unacceptable to stage this at the old Vic. But it was acceptable for it to be staged out in the provinces.... How do those things together make sense? Are the Old Vic allowed to have principles but regional theatre can get by without them? You either think Gilliam should be allowed to create theatre or he shouldn't. The location shouldn't matter. Sorry. You misunderstood. Any regional theatre would have jumped at the chance to pick up a show like this with a big name director to bring in crowds and increase revenue and popularity. I wasn’t saying that any other theatres would have taken the same or different stance as the Old Vic. I have no strong opinions on whether Gilliam should be making theatre or not. I didn’t say his views played any part in that. I do admire the Old Vic for making a principled stand based on the evidence presented to them and listening to views of others though. I didn't misunderstand. You were and remain inconsistent. But it profits no one to pursue this further. |
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 23, 2022 11:11:27 GMT
Sorry if this has already been asked, but is the second verse of Children Will listen in this production? It was in at Regents Park but I've seen productions when it's not so was curious.
Think I'm headed to Bath a week tomorrow - those production photos have me very excited.
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Post by anxiousoctopus on Aug 23, 2022 13:20:58 GMT
I have only seen the classic recorded Broadway version, but I’m really impressed with the design of Milky White to look like one of those collapsing wooden toy puppets.
Also if the preview changes stick and the narrator isn’t the Baker’s father, I wonder how much that’ll change the end theme of parents mistakes influencing the mistakes of their children.
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