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Post by pochard on Nov 10, 2021 20:00:37 GMT
Has anyone received their refund for this yet? Yes. Had mine refunded within a few days. Thank-you! That prompted me to look more closely, and I have been refunded too, after all. Unfortunately overshadowed up by all the other outgoings on the card... |
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 12, 2021 1:40:17 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 12, 2021 6:48:45 GMT
Bath?!
That’s a bit desperate. Wow.
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Post by properjob on Nov 12, 2021 7:34:45 GMT
It also sounds like no deal has been done before this has leaked so I'm skeptical one will be done. If he thinks he is some sort of victim there must be a high chance that he will give another interview where he blames actual victims before the contract is signed. At the very least I suspect any host theatre will want detailed codes of conduct enshrined in the contract.
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Post by danb on Nov 12, 2021 7:37:04 GMT
Because it’s outside of your hallowed London? TRB have been a respected producing house for a long time.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 12, 2021 7:37:10 GMT
They’re measuring the stage before starting talks? I’m sure the people a the TRB know exactly how big their stage is without having to get the tape measure out for Mr Gillian. Sounds like a load of old guff!
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Post by danb on Nov 12, 2021 7:40:34 GMT
It does sound like they’ve leaked it before they can change their mind.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Nov 12, 2021 7:57:34 GMT
Set in a Childrens home? How will that work exactly?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 12, 2021 8:00:25 GMT
Opera North at Leeds Playhouse set it in a school classroom.
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Post by LaLuPone on Nov 12, 2021 8:10:36 GMT
I guess it’s more that the children’s home is a framing device and the kids there are telling each other fairytale stories. Jack and Little Red are orphans by the end of the show as well so that’s a link. The narrator will probably be played by a child or multiple children, which seems an odd choice seeing as they already did that with the Regent’s Park production.
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Post by jacob on Nov 12, 2021 14:34:18 GMT
Not complaining, the TR is right on my doorstep  |
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Post by inthenose on Nov 12, 2021 21:29:34 GMT
Because it’s outside of your hallowed London? TRB have been a respected producing house for a long time. Seen some brilliant productions in Bath. Definitely making the trip for this one. |
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Post by amp09 on Nov 13, 2021 0:37:55 GMT
How wonderful! Nice to have a musical in my home theatre. Usually have to travel to see them in Bristol/Cardifff as it’s predominately plays at TRB.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 13, 2021 1:02:25 GMT
Because it’s outside of your hallowed London? TRB have been a respected producing house for a long time. Oh yes. My hallowed London is the only place I could possibly ever see a piece of theatre. Provinces.. yuck. |
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Post by amp09 on Dec 13, 2021 8:52:27 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 13, 2021 9:09:14 GMT
How lovely that the staff at the Theatre Royal Bath are able to turn a blind eye to his loathsome comments.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 13, 2021 9:56:52 GMT
“we are extremely grateful to Steve and James Lapine for their support as we searched for a new home for this production.”
Sounds like the production has/had support from the writers so maybe the staff took their lead from them.
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Post by bordeaux on Dec 13, 2021 10:20:28 GMT
How lovely that the staff at the Theatre Royal Bath are able to turn a blind eye to his loathsome comments. I hereby confess that when I read my children Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, when I listen to Tristan and Isolde, when I read The Whitsun Weddings, I turn a blind eye to much, much worse. |
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Post by craig on Dec 13, 2021 10:31:01 GMT
How wonderful! Nice to have a musical in my home theatre. Usually have to travel to see them in Bristol/Cardifff as it’s predominately plays at TRB. Very jealous that you live in Bath! I'd move there tomorrow if it weren't for other commitments tying me here. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 13, 2021 10:31:41 GMT
How lovely that the staff at the Theatre Royal Bath are able to turn a blind eye to his loathsome comments. I hereby confess that when I read my children Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, when I listen to Tristan and Isolde, when I read The Whitsun Weddings, I turn a blind eye to much, much worse. Slightly different. You aren’t inviting Dahl into your home. |
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Post by danb on Dec 13, 2021 11:00:52 GMT
Gah the hypocrisy! Some of the things said on this board pale by comparison but all of a sudden we get a protector of our moral turpitude? Pull the other one. It’s just a bandwagon for people to leap on at the merest whiff of a cancellation or scandal.
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Post by cavocado on Dec 13, 2021 11:50:54 GMT
He expressed some opinions which are a bit outdated and considered unacceptable by some, maybe 'loathsome' by others, but does that make him unemployable? I don't think there's evidence of any actual wrongdoing. I've read plenty of interviews with actors and directors who've said things that I strongly disagreed with, or just made me cringe. I've worked with people who held views I found appalling - what else should I have done other than turn a blind eye or argue with them when appropriate? I disagree with blacklisting, restricting free speech and hounding people out of jobs, and I think tolerance should be applied across the board, not just where it's easiest. Theatre staff are protected by contracts and employment laws. Why should they also be allowed to censor the views of their colleagues? Where do we draw the line?
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Post by inthenose on Dec 13, 2021 14:20:54 GMT
There will be pushback.
The movement supporting a need for cultural change has done, overall, a huge net good. Criminals have been brought to justice and hearts and minds are being won.
As with anything good, there are those who damage the message, either intentionally through sabotage or accidentally through becoming a zealot for the cause, leading to increasingly extreme actions/views. Just look at religion.
Social justice is no different.
What was initially about righting obvious wrongs and imbalances in society is being overtaken by a culture of a need to look for - or even create wrongs that need to be "fixed".
People who are beginning to realise that anyone, anytime, can become a target if their views don't perfectly match the consensus - especially the social media consensus.
In short, it has become everything it is fighting
against. Inevitably, what happens is the (quiet) sensible middle pushes back against it, and so much great work is undone.
I've said before, whilst I personally don't agree with Gilliam's views, he has said and done nothing illegal, he hasn't incited hatred, he has just given his opinion in the same way that lots of people who feel the opposite have given theirs.
This culture of "everyone who disagrees with my extreme liberal views is evil" has to stop, or there will be a big swing back the other way when people rebel against it.
Spoken as a mixed race liberal.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 13, 2021 14:55:35 GMT
It will transfer to the West End after Bath according to Baz. And interest from Broadway too.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 13, 2021 15:37:51 GMT
It will transfer to the West End after Bath according to Baz. And interest from Broadway too. Considering very little is selling at the moment plus sondheim is not the 'housewifes choice' good luck to them. |
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