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Post by londonpostie on Jan 8, 2020 20:57:50 GMT
I can't think of another reason now for bothering with Oyster other than a reluctance to embrace contactless - and you do see that at tube stations, often with the older crowd (both UK and tourists). For some, it's quite a jump from paying for a ticket with cash and getting a paper ticket.
It's hard to express the impact starting contactless on public transport had on the wider society in London: overnight it became the norm for everything.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 8, 2020 21:10:47 GMT
I can't think of another reason now for bothering with Oyster other than a reluctance to embrace contactless - and you do see that at tube stations, often with the older crowd (both UK and tourists). For some, it's quite a jump from paying for a ticket with cash and getting a paper ticket. It's hard to express the impact starting contactless on public transport had on the wider society in London: overnight it became the norm for everything. I can give you my reason: OCD. If I drop a train ticket on the ground when out & about then I refuse to pick it up, even if that means I lost up to £50 worth of train ticket, which I did once. Hence I still use an Oyster card and put £20 on it at a time so if I should ever drop it I will only lose a maximum of £20, whereas if I dropped my bank card when hurrying out of the tube it would be a lot more problematic.
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Post by londonpostie on Jan 8, 2020 22:11:17 GMT
Won't mention the phone-scan thing then ..
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 8, 2020 22:36:18 GMT
Won't mention the phone-scan thing then .. It makes me feel sick every time I see someone doing that. If it ever becomes the only method then I'd have to buy a second phone just for scanning use!
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Post by mistressjojo on Jan 8, 2020 23:30:55 GMT
I can't think of another reason now for bothering with Oyster other than a reluctance to embrace contactless - and you do see that at tube stations, often with the older crowd (both UK and tourists). For some, it's quite a jump from paying for a ticket with cash and getting a paper ticket. It's hard to express the impact starting contactless on public transport had on the wider society in London: overnight it became the norm for everything. Except that if I use contactless payments I get whacked with foreign exchange charges, merchant charges and whatever else they can charge me for charges. So I'll stick to Oyster, thanks all the same.
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Post by poster J on Jan 9, 2020 0:37:10 GMT
I can't think of another reason now for bothering with Oyster other than a reluctance to embrace contactless - and you do see that at tube stations, often with the older crowd (both UK and tourists). For some, it's quite a jump from paying for a ticket with cash and getting a paper ticket. It's hard to express the impact starting contactless on public transport had on the wider society in London: overnight it became the norm for everything. I don't want to carry a bank card in my pocket and I don't want to have to keep getting my phone out either - not all of us wander around with valuable items in our pockets all the time, mine are usually safely ensconced in my handbag. Plus my local station is above ground so half the time I am actually on the phone while swiping in or out if heading to or from home, so having my cards on my phone would be no good for that reason as well. And also railcard discount.
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Post by Jane Parfitt on Jan 9, 2020 9:33:17 GMT
I can't think of another reason now for bothering with Oyster other than a reluctance to embrace contactless - and you do see that at tube stations, often with the older crowd (both UK and tourists). For some, it's quite a jump from paying for a ticket with cash and getting a paper ticket. It's hard to express the impact starting contactless on public transport had on the wider society in London: overnight it became the norm for everything. I can give you my reason: OCD. If I drop a train ticket on the ground when out & about then I refuse to pick it up, even if that means I lost up to £50 worth of train ticket, which I did once. Hence I still use an Oyster card and put £20 on it at a time so if I should ever drop it I will only lose a maximum of £20, whereas if I dropped my bank card when hurrying out of the tube it would be a lot more problematic. Prepaid credit card will only have what you choose to load onto it too, and you can use it at more places (I promise I'm not on commission)!
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Post by maggiem on Jan 9, 2020 10:45:43 GMT
I got a visitor Oyster card a few years ago, when I realised I would be doing a few Saturday trips. I put a top up on it when I arrive at Euston (at a newsagents outside the station, not in the ticket hall madhouse!) On the odd occasion that I forget to put the card in my handbag, the contactless debit card is a godsend to get the same ticket prices! I have also been using the buses more, although they do take longer (the tube and asthma don't go together, do they?) It's this kind of scheme that we should have in Manchester now. The bus companies will say anything to avoid it happening. About two years ago I got a Get Me There card (cringey name taken for GMT - Greater Manchester Transport) in anticipation of our very own Oyster type system going live. Still waiting! I have the Get Me there card too, which holds my 28-Day System One Pass on it.
(For those outside Greater Manchester, System One is a scheme whereby you make one payment per day/week/28-day period, and you can use any bus running a route within the GM boundary. As I can be using buses from 3 different companies to get to/from work, its a lot cheaper).
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 9, 2020 12:11:08 GMT
Prepaid credit card will only have what you choose to load onto it too, and you can use it at more places (I promise I'm not on commission)! But if it's pre-paid then I might as well be using the pre-paid Oyster card, as I can't think of any other places where I need something pre-paid.
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Post by vdcni on Jan 10, 2020 9:02:26 GMT
I use the Waterloo and City line where not all the exits have barriers so it's much easier to have a monthly travel card on my Oyster so I don't have to remember to tap in and out. It also means I can speed through at Waterloo to go and grab my train. Similarly one of my two local stations doesn't have barriers so I can skip the queue to tap in/out.
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Post by Mr Snow on Jan 11, 2020 10:54:09 GMT
I get so tired reading how s**** everything it today. But IMHO cashless payment (oyster and other means are available) and public transport is a marriage made in heaven(metaphorically speaking as I wouldn't wish to offend anyone ).
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Post by Mr Snow on Jan 11, 2020 11:00:11 GMT
For those who remember having to buy a ticket at the desk or from a machine every single journey, it's true - this is way better. Or the bus driver/conductor who would accept exact change only!
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Post by peggs on Jan 11, 2020 15:59:18 GMT
For those who remember having to buy a ticket at the desk or from a machine every single journey, it's true - this is way better. Or the bus driver/conductor who would accept exact change only! Yes never being able to spend your change as you had to store it up. I still haven't really accepted I don't have to still do this for parking.
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Post by The Matthew on Jan 11, 2020 16:42:26 GMT
Or the bus driver/conductor who would accept exact change only! Yes never being able to spend your change as you had to store it up. I still haven't really accepted I don't have to still do this for parking. Getting change is becoming a bit of a problem now I pay for nearly everything by card. I find I need to go to the bank now more than ever before to get low-denomination notes because the £20s I get from ATMs just aren't useful these days. As for buses, I don't remember ever having problems with change back when I was using buses but I do remember a few people who tried to pay for tickets with £20 or £50 notes and (incorrectly) insisted that the law required the driver to give them their change.
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Post by rumbledoll on Jan 12, 2020 10:57:23 GMT
I found it much cheaper with a bank card recently (only charged me 1 pound regardless while with Oyster it costs 2.10-2.40 depending on the time of day you travel).
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Post by londonpostie on Jan 12, 2020 12:14:35 GMT
I found it much cheaper with a bank card recently (only charged me 1 pound regardless while with Oyster it costs 2.10-2.40 depending on the time of day you travel). Not aware any journey on London Transport is priced at £1.00. I can see a 1/3 discount on a £1.50 bus journey but I thought that only happened with a combo of Oyster/Senior Rail Card. What was your journey?
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Post by Jon on Jan 12, 2020 18:22:43 GMT
I think a Gold Rail Card can make some journey on Oyster cost as little as £1
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Post by rumbledoll on Jan 13, 2020 6:09:45 GMT
I found it much cheaper with a bank card recently (only charged me 1 pound regardless while with Oyster it costs 2.10-2.40 depending on the time of day you travel). Not aware any journey on London Transport is priced at £1.00. I can see a 1/3 discount on a £1.50 bus journey but I thought that only happened with a combo of Oyster/Senior Rail Card. What was your journey? Glouster road -> Blackfriars and Piccadilly -> St Pancras. Maybe they only charge you £1.00, when you don’t change between lines? 😁
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Post by olliebean on Jan 13, 2020 7:58:51 GMT
Not aware any journey on London Transport is priced at £1.00. I can see a 1/3 discount on a £1.50 bus journey but I thought that only happened with a combo of Oyster/Senior Rail Card. What was your journey? Glouster road -> Blackfriars and Piccadilly -> St Pancras. Maybe they only charge you £1.00, when you don’t change between lines? 😁 Standard price for those journeys, with an Oyster or bank card, is £2.40 off-peak or £3.90 peak.
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Post by Sam on Jan 13, 2020 9:36:22 GMT
Hammersmith to Uxbridge costs me £1 off peak, presumably with my railcard discount.
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Post by rumbledoll on Jan 13, 2020 13:45:16 GMT
I do not have any railcard discount but this is what’s happened to me (and I’m not complaining!))
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Post by ftfadia on Jan 18, 2020 10:05:41 GMT
I think a Gold Rail Card can make some journey on Oyster cost as little as £1 With my gold rail card every off-peak journey between zone 1 & Heathrow is £1. It's a pleasant surprise every time because I always think it must be a fluke
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Post by fossil on Jan 18, 2020 12:02:32 GMT
I think a Gold Rail Card can make some journey on Oyster cost as little as £1 With my gold rail card every off-peak journey between zone 1 & Heathrow is £1. It's a pleasant surprise every time because I always think it must be a fluke Does your Gold Rail Card includes zone 1? If so that would explain it.
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