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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 8, 2022 14:25:52 GMT
My god I think I’ll have had enough Cinders to last a lifetime by then 🥺 But hopefully Hope Mill's version will have less backstage drama! Plus a decent score and lyrics.
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Post by ceebee on Mar 8, 2022 14:48:58 GMT
Starring Carrie Hope Mill Fletcher perhaps?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 8, 2022 14:51:49 GMT
You need to be able to sing to play the R&H Cinders...
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Post by SuttonPeron on Mar 8, 2022 18:25:32 GMT
They´re sadly ditching Danny Troob´s stunning orchestrations, so they could adapt them for her... I´d rather not suggest how.
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Post by jgblunners on Mar 8, 2022 18:28:33 GMT
There's no way they could do a full orchestration at such a small theatre - Jason Carr is a very good orchestrator and has lots of experience orchestrating for small bands. OK, it won't sound like it did on Broadway, but I'm sure the score is safe in his hands.
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Post by lolalou on Mar 8, 2022 21:18:30 GMT
Ah the Good Cinderella makes a return. All is well with the world, life and universe balance restored.
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Post by chels on Jul 12, 2022 9:22:13 GMT
Confirmed casting, Grace Mouat as Cinderella!
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Post by Being Alive on Jul 12, 2022 9:47:26 GMT
She'll be terrific I think - very glad this score is getting an outing in a proper production again
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 12, 2022 10:04:49 GMT
It’s a no from me. I don’t rate her at all. Also I’ve never been sure that I want to see this story in a space the size of the Hope mill, or a R&H score done by a tiny band. If it gets raves I’ll be a turncoat and go later in the run maybe but nah… I don’t fancy it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 10:56:54 GMT
It’s a no from me. I don’t rate her at all. Also I’ve never been sure that I want to see this story in a space the size of the Hope mill, or a R&H score done by a tiny band. If it gets raves I’ll be a turncoat and go later in the run maybe but nah… I don’t fancy it. I wish the ENO brought the broadway production over
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Post by SuttonPeron on Jul 12, 2022 11:19:08 GMT
Same here. Danny Troob´s orchestrations for the 2013 Broadway production were wonderful. A tiny band cannot do this, or any Rodgers and Hammerstein score justice.
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Post by ladidah on Jul 12, 2022 13:46:37 GMT
I love the score, but the theatre looks too claustrophobic for me.
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Post by theoracle on Jul 26, 2022 7:19:45 GMT
It looks like a load of teen girls will be flocking to the Hope Mill in November with this casting. Thinking about further casting - would love to see Joanna Riding play Marie/Fairy Godmother,
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 26, 2022 7:23:22 GMT
American accents?
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Post by cezbear on Jul 26, 2022 7:56:30 GMT
Grace looks beautiful in the promo shots and I like her usually but her vocal in that video is not impressing me.
They're obviously going after the younger audience with the casting.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 26, 2022 9:24:38 GMT
The positive to take from that is Jacob Fowler. His voice shows a real empathy for the melody. He is truly at home in the music and he has an instinctive feel for the phrasing.
Sadly there it ends.
The big negative is the woefully thin orchestration. As noted above, the recent Broadway version was rich and opulent, lush and evocative. This is weak and empty.
Grace Mouat isn't bad. But she isn't at home in this repertoire. She is singing the notes not feeling them. And with a score like this, you have to be inside each phrase, feeling the ebb and flow.
Mr Fowler stands out as being the real talent in the room here.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 23, 2022 18:28:42 GMT
Grace Mouat as Ella (SIX, & Juliet) Jacob Fowler as Topher (Heathers) Annie Aitken as Madame (The Phantom of the Opera) Julie Ammanee as Marie / Fairy Godmother (Carousel) Lee Ormsby as Sebastian (Les Miserables) Matthew McDonald as Lord Pinkleton (HMS Pinafore) Katie Ramshaw as Charlotte (Jeremy Jordon in Concert) Olivia Faith-Kamau as Gabrielle (Million Dollar Quartet) Adam Filipe as Jean Michel (Prince of Egypt) Featured ensemble cast including Morgan Broome, Lois Glain Postle, Ria Tanaka, Ella Valentine, Jamie Jonathan, Will Fisher, Trevor Linand Milo McCarthy.
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Post by marob on Sept 24, 2022 10:17:52 GMT
It’s probably just me being paranoid but the location of Hope Mill puts me off seeing this. I’ve only been there once to see Passion, but walking to and from the theatre alone was pretty grim, even in broad daylight I felt quite isolated and alone in a way that I don’t normally. I know there’s a tram stop, but still I wouldn’t want to be hanging around there on my own after dark.
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Post by Dr Tom on Sept 24, 2022 10:46:12 GMT
It’s probably just me being paranoid but the location of Hope Mill puts me off seeing this. I’ve only been there once to see Passion, but walking to and from the theatre alone was pretty grim, even in broad daylight I felt quite isolated and alone in a way that I don’t normally. I know there’s a tram stop, but still I wouldn’t want to be hanging around there on my own after dark. I've walked to and from Hope Mill at least 10 times (the only times I haven't walked is when it's been pouring with rain) and I've never felt unsafe. You're only down the road from retail, modern apartments and a large hotel. I've also walked around the local housing areas when I've had time to fill. Felt no different to areas of Birmingham or London to me. And there are usually people getting on with their daily life. Plus plenty of people walking back to the tram (or the city centre) after the evening shows end. With that said, there's no need to feel uncomfortable. It's a lovely theatre when you get in. You can get an Uber (or other preferred cab) from the centre for under £10 each way, pay for a ticket to the show and buy a drink at the bar and still end up spending last money than a ticket alone for a show in a central theatre.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 21, 2022 15:53:51 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 4, 2022 13:52:41 GMT
Looks like Grace Mouat is out “for the foreseeable future” due to “injury” and Ria Tanaka is playing Ella.
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Post by QueerTheatre on Nov 4, 2022 17:00:00 GMT
grace broke her ankle onstage, poor girl!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 4, 2022 18:29:16 GMT
grace broke her ankle onstage, poor girl! Please tell me she did it when she put the glass slippers on…
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Post by Mark on Nov 4, 2022 18:37:41 GMT
Oh that is so sad - she’s worked so hard and for this to happen. Wishing her a speedy recovery.
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Post by QueerTheatre on Nov 4, 2022 19:32:49 GMT
grace broke her ankle onstage, poor girl! Please tell me she did it when she put the glass slippers on… i’m not sure when in the show, but i’m told she finished the show
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