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Post by shady23 on May 11, 2018 21:22:33 GMT
"Alexandra was too glamorous"
Did you not see her outfits?!
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Post by Stasia on May 11, 2018 22:42:31 GMT
"Alexandra was too glamorous" Did you not see her outfits?! I did. And I lived in actual Soviet Union, did you? Could you please also be more polite maybe? I haven’t said anything offensive to you to be talked in such manner. People who know anything about Soviet Russia and the conditions people were livivng in were laughing when I described Svetlana’s haircut and red long nails as well as the dresses. If she’d be playing Queen Victoria in these outfits, she’d be more appropriately dressed. Once again I suggest googling photo of Nina Khruschev and Jackie Kennedy to understand my point better.
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 12, 2018 5:54:13 GMT
Thanks Stasia I’m really enjoy perspective on the debate 😀
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May 12, 2018 6:17:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 6:17:39 GMT
Thanks Stasia I’m really enjoy perspective on the debate 😀 Me too. I want to think about this a bit more and how it fits into the discussion about colourblind casting.
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Post by shady23 on May 12, 2018 8:07:25 GMT
Sorry Stasia, I wasn't intending to be rude, was just trying to make a joke based on what lots of people have said on this thread about her ill fitting outfits. Northern humour doesn't always translate well online so apologies.
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Post by theatreian on May 12, 2018 8:13:34 GMT
Yes my Northern humour has got me into trouble a few times in other parts of the country.
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May 12, 2018 8:13:55 GMT
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Post by Stasia on May 12, 2018 8:13:55 GMT
Sorry Stasia, I wasn't intending to be rude, was just trying to make a joke based on what lots of people have said on this thread about her ill fitting outfits. Northern humour doesn't always translate well online so apologies. Apologies from me as well for not reading it correctly!
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Post by Stasia on May 12, 2018 8:23:55 GMT
Thanks Stasia I’m really enjoy perspective on the debate 😀 Me too. I want to think about this a bit more and how it fits into the discussion about colourblind casting. Me too. I read the whole thread on West Side Story. And agreed with the arguments for Maria and other Puerto Ricans being presented as they really looked as it is essential for the plot. With Chess, I think the colour of the skin is essential for at least the KGB person, because it is one of his defining characteristics. And it’s not so important for a “plain soviet woman” (it is more important for her to be soviet) and the colour of her skin is not important to the story line. But if it’s a confrontation of western and soviet systems, I think, the main representatives must be cast having that in mind.
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Post by sf on May 12, 2018 13:18:05 GMT
To be fair, in terms of plot, what you saw tonight - and what I saw this afternoon - is a lazily cobbled-together script that makes significantly less sense than the version(s) that originally played in the West End and on tour. This is one of those shows, like Candide, that keeps getting pulled apart and put back together again because nobody can agree on a definitive version, and this particular iteration of it, in terms of storytelling, is a hot mess. Granted, no version of the show is perfect, but this one is far less perfect than some of the others. Even the awful Broadway book, in terms of plot/character development, is far better than the script they're using at the Coliseum. Reading what we could of had (see chessthemusical.weebly.com for details) actually makes me quite angry and sad. I can’t help thinking these ENO musicals are becoming worse each year ... I suspect this version of the script, too, was put together to support leading performers who aren't seasoned musical theatre actors (and yes, they ended up with performers who are - well, apart from Ms. Burke, who has a nice voice but can't act at all). Remember, tickets had been on sale for over three months before casting was announced, and the other ENO musicals all had at least one or two stars locked in when booking opened. Then there's that interview where Michael Ball says he approached the producers about the role in January, when tickets had already been on sale for a couple of months. I think they were going after superstar casting in several of the leads - pop or television stars with limited stage acting experience - so to play to the strengths of that kind of performer, they reduced the script to a series of Big Numbers with as little connecting tissue between them as possible. If they'd actually managed to cast people with the kind of megawatt star presence that would make that approach work - as opposed to Cassidy Janson - it might have made more sense. You could see what they were going for when Michael Ball was singing 'Anthem' - I think they were going for (even) bigger names than him, but he does have that kind of star quality, and that moment was electric in a way that most of the other big solos weren't. Tim Howar somewhat has that quality when he's singing - but only somewhat, and it deserts him completely when he starts to speak. And having said all that, I did love it - but I've loved that music ever since the concept album was released, and what I loved most was hearing that score performed (beautifully) by a huge orchestra and chorus. The leading performances are all perfectly OK, although this version of Svetlana might have worked better played by someone whose approach to lyric interpretation goes a little further than 'loud or soft'. The music, for me, was thrilling, and worth the ticket and the train fare, but it was quite obvious that they were aiming for the kind of casting that would have made it an EVENT!, and that they didn't manage to sign whoever they were pursuing.
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Post by apubleed on May 12, 2018 13:28:20 GMT
I'm surprised all the dislike for Alexandra Burke - she has to have one of the worst written characters in the history of musical theatre - absolutely no development and then coming out of no where has two stunning ballads about the challenges in her life/relationship. That would be a hard sell for anyone - she doesn't have any arc to her character but she does manage to deliver absolutely stunning vocal performances with an emotional layer to it (it's not as if she is standing there straight faced with no emotion). In fact, my general sentiment towards the whole production is that all of the leads are doing fine work in an absolute mess of a musical. This production of Chess deserves to be recorded (CD is fine, no need for a video record of some of the awful design).
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 13:33:48 GMT
Michael Ball looked the part with his rather “soviet engineer” figure. I laughed so much at this- I'm going to adopt that as my description of him in future!! But I think your longer post raises very valid posts- especially in something like Chess which does make comment on a historical period, just because it's not about Race directly, it is about a country's history. And I agree we should attempt to depict that fairly as well.
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May 12, 2018 22:31:50 GMT
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Post by loureviews on May 12, 2018 22:31:50 GMT
Just back from watching this a 2nd time from the Dress Circle. In terms of design it is like watching a different show.
I had no idea there was a platform that kept coming up and down. And steps. And I missed most of One Night in Bangkok and The Soviet Machine's dancing content last week.
Honestly you cannot see the pit from the upper levels. I can't post pics for comparison here as per board rules but I have on Twitter.
But the show is still sensational. If I didn't have to fork out another £100 for a ticket I would visit again before it closes.
And tonight they didn't black out immediately after Pity the Child, so Tim, rightly, got his solo applause.
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May 12, 2018 22:38:49 GMT
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Post by Stasia on May 12, 2018 22:38:49 GMT
Just back from watching this a 2nd time from the Dress Circle. In terms of design it is like watching a different show. I had no idea there was a platform that kept coming up and down. And steps. And I missed most of One Night in Bangkok and The Soviet Machine's dancing content last week. Honestly you cannot see the pit from the upper levels. I can't post pics for comparison here as per board rules but I have on Twitter. But the show is still sensational. If I didn't have to fork out another £100 for a ticket I would visit again before it closes. And tonight they didn't black out immediately after Pity the Child, so Tim, rightly, got his solo applause. You can get Rush tickets via TodayTix app for £25, and i think they might be in the Dress
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May 12, 2018 22:42:31 GMT
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Post by loureviews on May 12, 2018 22:42:31 GMT
Tempted ...
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May 12, 2018 22:47:40 GMT
Post by Mark on May 12, 2018 22:47:40 GMT
I was row C upper circle tonight and had a really good view (todaytix rush). The people next to me had paid £80 it seems.
The show, well it's Chess so it's the music that you go for and it is a really great score. I don't think the casting is quite right, but it was an enjoyable night out none the less.
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May 12, 2018 22:54:10 GMT
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Post by alece10 on May 12, 2018 22:54:10 GMT
I've tried every day for rush and only been offered upper circle so far. Keeping my fingers for dress next week. Was spoilt with stalls first time but can't afford to sit there a second time.
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May 13, 2018 6:38:45 GMT
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Post by jaqs on May 13, 2018 6:38:45 GMT
My friend got a rush ticket in the dress circle yesterday, so I took her balcony seat. I’d not planned on seeing the show but am glad I did for the orchestra and great voices. The rest was as everyone mentioned a mess, I’d not much clue what was going on or why and was bored for stretches.
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May 13, 2018 8:14:52 GMT
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Post by liverpool54321 on May 13, 2018 8:14:52 GMT
We got Row J for the matinee in the Rush sale. Definitely a great view of the entire set from there.
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May 13, 2018 15:14:53 GMT
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Post by loureviews on May 13, 2018 15:14:53 GMT
Much as I love London theatre these deals make committed fans feel like idiots for spending money out. Especially when those who take advantage of cheap tickets bad-mouth the production.
And 'everybody' doesn't think the plot of this show is a mess. I wish they would settle on one plot and one set of songs and stop tinkering witb it but it is perfectly simple to follow!
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May 13, 2018 17:49:57 GMT
Post by djp on May 13, 2018 17:49:57 GMT
Goodness. Quite a wide remit there. I thought it was just a theatre. That would be the water people throw over others, the stagnant water they force down others, the children saved from drowning in water bottles, and the acid that the dumbest terrorist would take in - rather than just chucking at the long queue at security outside........
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Post by loureviews on May 13, 2018 18:57:39 GMT
Review mk 2, after last night's visit!
Now, you may recall that last week we took a visit to see one of my all-time favourite musicals, Chess, and that it was not an entirely enjoyable experience as our upper circle seats were most definitely ‘restricted’ although not sold as such. The show was fantastic, as I expected, so I took a very rare decision to pay for a more expensive ticket, and revisit the show to see what I was missing.
I’ll talk a bit about pricing at the end of this piece.
The difference between viewing the show from a seat in the upper circle, row J, in the central block, and a seat in the dress circle, row E, at the side, is like night and day. In the case of this production of Chess, the effect is like watching a completely different show from a design point of view.
Just look at the difference here; last week’s view first, then last night’s view.
[photos here]
The ENO’s annual musical has become a big event of limited runs: we have had Sweeney Todd, Sunset Boulevard, Carousel, and now Chess. These are generally big productions with star names, and for the last two years, they have been fully staged. None of these were ‘new’ musicals to me, and in fact all have been long-time favourites, and Chess is no exception.
I talked a bit about the casting for Chess last week. Musical theatre veteran Michael Ball has been cast as the Russian challenger, Anatoly Sergievsky. Rock singer and musical star from Canada, Tim Howar, is the American champion, Freddie Trumper (an unfortunate surname right now with the current President). Actress/singer Cassidy Janson, who has led in small musicals and covered in larger ones, is Florence Vassy, Freddie’s second and girlfriend of seven years. X Factor winner turned musical belter Alexandra Burke is Svetlana Sergievska, the wife of Anatoly and mother of their son Ivan. Phillip Browne is the Russian second, Molokov, a KGB operative and a sinister bass. Cedric Neal comes from Broadway and a leading role in Motown the Musical to portray The Arbiter, the judge and referee of the Chess Federation tournaments we see.
In the last post I referred to the casting drama during rehearsals which saw Neal brought in at short notice to take over the role (hard on the voice, but underwritten). There was an additional event which affected the first preview, when Tim Howar’s wife gave birth to their son Hamish during Act One, which meant the understudy had to take on Act Two (including the big solo number, Pity The Child, and some tricky moments of recitative). There have also been reports of Michael Ball missing some lines in the Endgame number which has all the principals together for the last time, but no such problem was present last night (although his “Frederick, thank you” in the close of The Deal/No Deal number has now switched to “Freddie”).
So what’s ‘new’ if you are in the lower levels?
First off, there is a platform which comes up during key scenes, and this is located in the pit, where the orchestra is usually based. Honestly, from the upper circle last week I had no clue this was even there, nor did I realise that some of the chess board set design was made up of steps which allowed some characters to exit quickly or for technicians to nip under the stage to set up the next scene or the video projections.
Second, without a clear view of the front of the stage you miss around half of the choreography of The Soviet Machine, roughly a third of One Night in Bangkok, and you are unable to see the chorus behind the screen in The Story of Chess, or the chorus based under the platform during the chess games. This does a great disservice to the hard working singers and dancers who deliver the layered melodies and high energy movement the ensemble numbers require.
This time I hardly glanced at the video projections (which are sometimes mirror images of the same scene in close-up, but sometimes seem to be there just so you can see what is going on – for example, in Burke’s two solo numbers, in Janson’s two solo numbers, and -with some synch problems last night – for Howar’s big Act Two number). I found them distracting in the major duets I Know Him So Well and Mountain Duet, as that by definition requires two people to be shown, and the screens seemed superfluous.
In other places they are used well – the plane arrival in Merano, the fire-breathing dragons in One Night in Bangkok in front of which acrobats and aerial contortionists perform, the chess games (although, rather than 1960s headlines about the space race, it might be fun to show us the actual moves, assuming they are not just random!), and the explanatory pictures about the history of the game and former champions.
Last night I could watch close-up, on the stage itself, what was going on.
I still can’t find any emotional engagement with Svetlana – she appears briefly early on in the show, and then we don’t see her again until the end of Act One, in which we are supposed to empathise with her delivery of Someone Else’s Story. This song was written for the character of Florence (in the original Broadway production), and still makes more sense, as she finds one relationship collapsing as another begins.
Neither female character is fully drawn, but I find Florence an interesting one. She is Hungarian-born and living in the US, with a self-centred lover who treats her as an accessory, although she’s fiery in support for him when we first see them. Why she’s stayed so long, and why she suddenly bails to join with a refugee from a country she hates, is not explored sufficiently, nor the reasons this Russian leaves his family for a new life in the West. Janson seems to make Florence fluffy in love by the time we get to Heaven Help My Heart, which makes the You and I duet between her and Anatoly bittersweet by its conclusion. Perhaps the implication is that Freddie’s drinking and coke sniffing had made him less exciting between the sheets than the focused Russian!
Svetlana has another song which opens Act Two, a translation of the Swedish production’s song He Is A Man, He Is A Child, which is a towering ballad for a character we don’t really know. But without those two songs, it isn’t much of a part, regardless of the engagement the audience would have with her. Burke does well enough and is very good indeed in Endgame, and she’s a hard woman to return to, for sure.
Michael Ball probably wouldn’t have been my first choice for Anatoly, but with his spectacles and air of concentrated ennui, he does convince – and the songs, Where I Want To Be, Anthem, and the duets previously mentioned, are delivered well, without too much of the vibrato that has characterised his recent collaborations with Alfie Boe. Hopefully we will see him in some more mature musical roles as time progresses. Anatoly, though, is a difficult proposition for any actor – he appears emotionless, he hates the West and everything Freddie Trumper represents, then beats him in the championship and steals his girl. It’s to the credit of the writers and the actor that we still feel some connection with him, and don’t dismiss him as a selfish sot.
Freddie is another conundrum – clearly focused on the game of chess, but highly-strung and feted (and behaving) like a rock star, from the moment he touches down in Merano. His songs range from massive power force fields like Pity The Child to cynical rap in One Night in Bangkok. He throws things around and hurts people who get close to him; he is by no means the confident front he puts on. It’s a tough part because it isn’t the one which gets the natural audience sympathy, but he’s always been my favourite character in Chess, and he’s pitched just right in this, with a redemption arc in The Deal/No Deal which might, despite Florence’s pointed look during the TV interview which opens Endgame, lead to some form of reconciliation for them.
The ensemble numbers are absolutely fine, and well done, and from close-up they were very enjoyable. The orchestra from the ENO is conducted by John Rigby, and musical director is Anders Eljas, who has been involved with the musical since square one, doing the original orchestrations, and what a glorious sound they make. As for the ensemble, let’s have a shout out for the pop choir trio Jordan Lee Davies, Sinead Lang and Alexandra Waite-Roberts, and associate choreographer Jo Morris, although all are excellent.
I mentioned the pricing. The upper circle pricing is £65-80, and the dress circle will cost you over £100 for a ticket. I hear that there are rush tickets for £25 through TodayTix for weekday performances, so this would seem to be the future of such shows – eye-watering prices for committed fans, and cheap tickets for casual ones. I find this a worrying trend as a theatre obsessive, and one who nearly always puts hand in pocket for pre-discount prices. If I visited a show on a cheap ticket or a comp, I would tell you. It’s a rare occurrence, but if you are in the happy position to not have to plan your visits to a show until the day itself, it’s an option to play the discount lotteries.
Chess continues for a further three weeks.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 20:35:18 GMT
Regarding the rush tickets, when I was looking at this last week it appeared the first ones to get released at 10:00 are in the upper circle. But later on they release more unsold tickets through this route which is when the dress circle ones appeared. So if you hold your nerve and keep checking you may do better.
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May 14, 2018 0:08:41 GMT
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Post by squidward on May 14, 2018 0:08:41 GMT
Actress/singer Cassidy Janson, who has led in small musicals and covered in larger ones, is Florence Vassy.
Would you consider playing the lead in ‘Beautiful’ for the lion’s share of the run at The Aldwych Theatre a small musical ? Also CJ went on as Elphaba in’Wicked’ numerous times during the Mendel/ Ellis period. She’s an incredibly gifted performer who I think is pretty much wasted in this messy production.
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