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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Aug 21, 2019 0:01:26 GMT
I’ve not tried the new double Quarter Pounder, isn’t that just a Big Mac without the extra bun It's a quarter pounder with an extra quarter pound burger. A lot more meat than a Big Mac. It costs about £4.39, ie more than double the £1.99 for a quarter pounder and medium fries using a Metro voucher. (when those Metro vouchers started about 10 years ago Big Macs and Quarter Pounders cost £1.99 so using a voucher just meant free chips. Now the burgers alone cost £2.99. I'm surprised the voucher price has never gone up.)
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Aug 21, 2019 0:47:11 GMT
What’s everyone like with Use By and Best Before dates? We’re wasting a lot of food apparently. I’m very flexible with Best Before and a bit flexible with Use By. I’m not the person who thinks a yoghurt suddenly goes off on the stroke of midnight but I wouldn’t go more than a couple of days over on dairy. except for hard cheese (just cut the mould off). Fish and seafood...I’m very nervous about and will throw away on the use by date. Meat I’m a bit more flexible with and will look and smell. Has anyone had that terrible experience of glugging milk from the carton and only realising too late that it was totally off? *BOKE* 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮 I'm a dedicated reduced price fresh food buyer and pay an average of 25% of full price at supermarkets for ALL our meat, ready meals, desserts, dairy, deli food, hot chicken, fruit and veg, bakery etc. I get some things 90%-95% reduced. Regularly go evening shopping weekdays when I'm at home and sometimes after 2pm on Sundays (a lot more competition than on weeknights) as I have done for the last 20 years. We eat well, but our food spend for four averages £35-£40 a week for about £150 as priced so I must have saved at least £50,000 since 1999. I know when and how all the supermarkets large and small do their final reductions, which are best for different lines and a few other lesser known tricks of the bargain shopping trade. The down side is I often spend an hour or more waiting around while the different departments do the reductions. 99% of Use By stuff is fine for up to a week after recommended date if kept refrigerated though I freeze a lot on the day purchased. We keep two freezers full of reduced food, try to use it within a year but never throw anything away. Yet to be ill from any food, ditto my now grown up children. It amuses me to hear people say they can't buy something reduced in price at 7.30pm because it has to be eaten that night. Becomes toxic after midnight ! Best Before dates I ignore completely and buy soft drinks, crisps, cakes, cooking sauces, tinned food, chocolate etc in bulk at boot sales, markets and a few shops and warehouses that specialise in expired date goods. Helps fund my theatre musicals obsession.
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Post by Jon on Aug 21, 2019 1:19:12 GMT
It's a quarter pounder with an extra quarter pound burger. A lot more meat than a Big Mac. It costs about £4.39, ie more than double the £1.99 for a quarter pounder and medium fries using a Metro voucher. (when those Metro vouchers started about 10 years ago Big Macs and Quarter Pounders cost £1.99 so using a voucher just meant free chips. Now the burgers alone cost £2.99. I'm surprised the voucher price has never gone up.) I assume those vouchers are loss leaders but I imagine they are relying on people buying soft drinks as part of the meal as they make a profit on those.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 4:34:09 GMT
What’s everyone like with Use By and Best Before dates? We’re wasting a lot of food apparently. I'm extremely squeamish about expiry dates, but I almost never waste food because I only buy food for the next couple of days at a time. The exception is soft fruit, which seems to go grey and hairy at least a day in advance of the best before date.
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Post by daisy24601 on Aug 21, 2019 7:25:49 GMT
Best before dates are just to cover themselves, they'll often be wildly accurate. You can see for yourself if something is past it.
I hate lemons. Anyone with me on this? Can't even use lemon scented cleaning products.
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 21, 2019 7:47:12 GMT
I hate lemons. Anyone with me on this? Can't even use lemon scented cleaning products. Absolutely not, they are one of my favourite ingredients. But I'm sure there'll be some who share your lemon aversion. Is it only lemon or other citruses too?
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Post by daisy24601 on Aug 21, 2019 8:02:45 GMT
Just lemons for some reason. Limes are fine. The worst thing is the obsession at so many restaurants and bars with putting a slice of lemon in your drink. Why?!! What purpose does it actually serve? It flavours the drink. Did I ask for lemon flavoured water? Did I ask for lemon flavored Coke? Get that muck out my glass! The amount of times I've had to leave a soggy bit of lemon on a bar or a table.
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 21, 2019 8:17:18 GMT
Just lemons for some reason. Limes are fine. The worst thing is the obsession at so many restaurants and bars with putting a slice of lemon in your drink. Why?!! What purpose does it actually serve? It flavours the drink. Did I ask for lemon flavoured water? Did I ask for lemon flavored Coke? Get that muck out my glass! The amount of times I've had to leave a soggy bit of lemon on a bar or a table. Because I don't mind it, I never think about the presumption of putting a slice of lemon in drinks but you are absolutely right. They should ask if you want anything in it. I suppose even worse for you are places that have a communal jug of water for everyone to use, and it's got lemon slices floating in it - I've seen variations on this, e.g. orange slices or mint leaves. My favourite bar in Edinburgh, Under The Stairs, your glass of tap water comes with a slice of cucumber in. As I find lemon such a fresh and zingy taste and aroma it surprises me someone wouldn't like it but we are all wired differently. My dad couldn't bear the aroma of freshly sliced/peeled oranges - again, for me a lovely aroma but he found it nauseating. I like bananas but the smell of a ripe one, or of the peel that's been thrown in a bin nearby, makes me heave. In an office I used to work in, the team knew to throw their banana peel in a bin outside the office. A previous colleague claimed the smell of bananas actually made her immediately throw up. We didn't put it to the test.
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Aug 21, 2019 8:31:37 GMT
It's a quarter pounder with an extra quarter pound burger. A lot more meat than a Big Mac. It costs about £4.39, ie more than double the £1.99 for a quarter pounder and medium fries using a Metro voucher. (when those Metro vouchers started about 10 years ago Big Macs and Quarter Pounders cost £1.99 so using a voucher just meant free chips. Now the burgers alone cost £2.99. I'm surprised the voucher price has never gone up.) I assume those vouchers are loss leaders but I imagine they are relying on people buying soft drinks as part of the meal as they make a profit on those. Some do, it's still a big saving over the meal deal. I get a coffee when I use one which thanks to ebay only costs about 30p.
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Post by daisy24601 on Aug 21, 2019 10:30:58 GMT
Just lemons for some reason. Limes are fine. The worst thing is the obsession at so many restaurants and bars with putting a slice of lemon in your drink. Why?!! What purpose does it actually serve? It flavours the drink. Did I ask for lemon flavoured water? Did I ask for lemon flavored Coke? Get that muck out my glass! The amount of times I've had to leave a soggy bit of lemon on a bar or a table. Because I don't mind it, I never think about the presumption of putting a slice of lemon in drinks but you are absolutely right. They should ask if you want anything in it. I suppose even worse for you are places that have a communal jug of water for everyone to use, and it's got lemon slices floating in it - I've seen variations on this, e.g. orange slices or mint leaves. My favourite bar in Edinburgh, Under The Stairs, your glass of tap water comes with a slice of cucumber in. As I find lemon such a fresh and zingy taste and aroma it surprises me someone wouldn't like it but we are all wired differently. My dad couldn't bear the aroma of freshly sliced/peeled oranges - again, for me a lovely aroma but he found it nauseating. I like bananas but the smell of a ripe one, or of the peel that's been thrown in a bin nearby, makes me heave. In an office I used to work in, the team knew to throw their banana peel in a bin outside the office. A previous colleague claimed the smell of bananas actually made her immediately throw up. We didn't put it to the test. Interesting you mention those two things, I know someone who hates oranges like I hate lemons, and someone who hates bananas (although that's due to her having to take a banana flavoured medicine as a child). Weird how some of us end up with these inexplicable aversions to things. And yes you're right on the water, I often have to go up and ask for water without lemon. I imagine there are people who aren't keen on it being cucumber flavoured as well.
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 21, 2019 10:49:34 GMT
The above conversation with daisy24601 about unwanted fruit etc in drinks tangentially takes me to cocktails. I love a cocktail and especially love some of the classics - white russian, gin martini, bramble, cosmopolitan and especially a manhattan or an old-fashioned. I appreciate bars inventing their own ones and they can sometimes come up with some very creative delicious mixes but there is also a tendency for them to put in herbs and spices, which I don't like. I love herbs and spices in cooking, but in cocktails I'm yet to have one including them that I've actually enjoyed. I admit I'm quite conservative when it comes to cocktails. My favourite place in London is Scooter Caffe on Lower Marsh, next to Waterloo station. They have a short cocktail menu (all the best menus of any kind, food or drink, are short) and do a very good old-fashioned, though it varies depending on who's mixing it. Scooters is very close to the geographic centre of greater London. I wonder if some sort of effect of that makes it feel so comfortable. Sitting in the comfy chair at the very back, with an old-fashioned and a good book, with no particular hurry to go anywhere or do anything and with the whole of London all around you, is a personal heaven. Any other cocktail fiends here?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 21, 2019 11:37:00 GMT
I resent paying what they charge for cocktails I’m afraid. On a very rare occasion I’ll have something rum based like a Mai Tai. They’re terrible value though, I can finish one in two swigs.
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 21, 2019 12:38:27 GMT
I resent paying what they charge for cocktails I’m afraid. On a very rare occasion I’ll have something rum based like a Mai Tai. They’re terrible value though, I can finish one in two swigs. Yes though it depends where you go. Scooters still charge single figures for theirs, mainly £7-8. Some places are now charging close to that for a pint of beer.
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Post by tmesis on Aug 21, 2019 12:42:14 GMT
My favourite cocktail is a negroni. Last year in Dubrovnik we were sitting in very much a locals bar out of the centre called 'Wind' (you couldn't imagine that in Britain where you might as well call it 'Fart' or 'Belch') - the reason for its name was it had a nautical vibe, right next to a marina. We soon tired of the local beer and rather rough wine but the place was too basic to advertise any cocktails. However, on the drinks list was gin, Campari and sweet vermouth so, emboldened by the barman's very friendly demeanour, I asked him to make up two. I had to explain what to do as he'd never heard of the drink, but for the princely sum of around £3.50 it was excellent - so good we had another!
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 21, 2019 12:48:52 GMT
I’ve just added a Fray Bentos pie to my Ocado order for the weekend. I’m excited. Weirdly, so am I. No one thus far seems to have mentioned pasta. I get through large amounts of it, mostly fusili. 😄 Fusili Jerry.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 21, 2019 12:57:15 GMT
Oh I love a Fray Bentos and occasionally have one as a treat when they are on offer for £1. Of course mo meat hardly just gravy and pastry but that pastry is the best bit especially the soggy stuff underneath. I eat a whole one. I'm sure when I was a kid one of those fed a family of 4.
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Post by tmesis on Aug 21, 2019 12:57:45 GMT
I’ve just added a Fray Bentos pie to my Ocado order for the weekend. I’m excited. Hope you've got a good can-opener.
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 21, 2019 13:04:49 GMT
Oh I love a Fray Bentos and occasionally have one as a treat when they are on offer for £1. Of course mo meat hardly just gravy and pastry but that pastry is the best bit especially the soggy stuff underneath. I eat a whole one. I'm sure when I was a kid one of those fed a family of 4. A whole one - as in, the 'family'-sized one? I have a great image of you lifting a big FB pie to your face (even though I realise that's sloppily impossible) and eating it like a big biscuit. That said, I did know someone who would eat whole sponge cakes in that way. Yes the moist underside of the puff pastry lid is luscious. Even when it's, as usual, risen unevenly - often one side is way higher than the other. If anyone is ever in Lochinver in the Assynt region of the NW Highlands, go to the Lochinver Larder and go pie-mad. They do a whole range of pies, savoury and sweet, and they are all packed to bursting and absolutely delicious. But you don't even have to go there, they do online orders. Side-note - ooh blimey. I have one post to reach 999. I told myself that as per the last board I'd bail at 999, I like the incomplete feel of it. I'd better choose it very carefully.
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 21, 2019 15:37:41 GMT
I'm flabbergasted, nay appalled, that such a hi-tech, upper middle class, online only retailer like Ocado stocks anything in a tin, let alone Fray Bentos pies. As a matter of principle, I shall, in future, be taking my business elsewhere...to Poundland where, funnily enough, a large pie costs just £1, 363 days of the year. 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 15:55:18 GMT
I know someone who hates oranges like I hate lemons, and someone who hates bananas I love lemons. I don't know why they put them in drinks because they barely make any difference to the drink at all, but I do often eat the slice of lemon afterwards. I used to love bananas — and especially banoffee sundaes — but they make my IBS flare up and it's not worth the pain. I believe that pearoffee sundaes are a thing that can work but I've yet to find one.
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Post by tmesis on Aug 21, 2019 17:03:09 GMT
The best steak and kidney pie in a pub is available from the Hardwick Inn, adjacent to Hardwick Hall near Chesterfield. I have now been going to this magnificent pub for over forty years. It's actually owned by the National Trust but has been managed by the Batty family all the time I have been going in. It's good because it's made with proper, slow cooked chuck steak and the (large) portion you get is a decent wedge culled from what must be an extremely large pie made with excellent suet-crust pastry. The pub is just fantastic all round with not a hint of gastro-pretension. I was there last week visiting my 90 year old father. I'm a real ale fan and had a lovely pint of Peak Ales Chatsworth Gold but I was spoilt for choice with Black Sheep, TT's Landlord and Old Peculier on sale. Oh and they also offer a choice of 230 single malts and have the nicest pub garden in Britain.
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Post by daisy24601 on Aug 21, 2019 17:09:12 GMT
I know someone who hates oranges like I hate lemons, and someone who hates bananas I love lemons. I don't know why they put them in drinks because they barely make any difference to the drink at all, but I do often eat the slice of lemon afterwards. I used to love bananas — and especially banoffee sundaes — but they make my IBS flare up and it's not worth the pain. I believe that pearoffee sundaes are a thing that can work but I've yet to find one. As someone who hates them, take it from me, they do make a difference. Especially in water as it doesn't really taste of anything, so the addition of something is noticeable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 17:42:59 GMT
It's a weirdly small world. I'm having dinner this evening and the woman at the table next to me asked for the lemon to be removed from her drink because she can't stand them.
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 21, 2019 17:46:04 GMT
Because I don't mind it, I never think about the presumption of putting a slice of lemon in drinks but you are absolutely right. They should ask if you want anything in it. I suppose even worse for you are places that have a communal jug of water for everyone to use, and it's got lemon slices floating in it - I've seen variations on this, e.g. orange slices or mint leaves. My favourite bar in Edinburgh, Under The Stairs, your glass of tap water comes with a slice of cucumber in. As I find lemon such a fresh and zingy taste and aroma it surprises me someone wouldn't like it but we are all wired differently. My dad couldn't bear the aroma of freshly sliced/peeled oranges - again, for me a lovely aroma but he found it nauseating. I like bananas but the smell of a ripe one, or of the peel that's been thrown in a bin nearby, makes me heave. In an office I used to work in, the team knew to throw their banana peel in a bin outside the office. A previous colleague claimed the smell of bananas actually made her immediately throw up. We didn't put it to the test. Interesting you mention those two things, I know someone who hates oranges like I hate lemons, and someone who hates bananas (although that's due to her having to take a banana flavoured medicine as a child). Weird how some of us end up with these inexplicable aversions to things. And yes you're right on the water, I often have to go up and ask for water without lemon. I imagine there are people who aren't keen on it being cucumber flavoured as well.
I too hate it when restaurants put a slice of lemon in water. It's not that I mind lemon flavour per say - I love lemon drizzle cake - I just don't want it in water. Because I pretty much only drink water (I may have a glass of fruit juice a few times in a year) I am very sensitive to its flavour. There are some parts of Britain where I can't bear the taste of the local water so have to buy bottled water if I'm visiting. Oddly, this includes the Lake District, which you'd think would have nice water but to my tastebuds doesn't.
I hate bananas, though I'm not sure if that's because I too had banana flavoured medicine as a child or if I'd hate them anyway. Unfortunately my mother loves them so every time I have to lift the lid of our food waste bin my nose is assaulted by the vile smell of banana peel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 20:26:21 GMT
For cocktails I'm partial to a good Margarita, Daiquiri, Mojito (though I probably drank too many of all of those in Cuba so I'm taking a break!) or Espresso Martini, but I'm just as happy with a decent Gin & Tonic!
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