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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 17:37:30 GMT
Seems to be affecting railway stations, electric trains, etc.
No reports of theatres being affected as yet.
Seems to be a major failure in the national grid, they say it’s been resolved but probably will be a backlog in stations etc. Up to curtain up time.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 9, 2019 17:43:34 GMT
Seems to be affecting railway stations, electric trains, etc. No reports of theatres being affected as yet. Seems to be a major failure in the national grid, they say it’s been resolved but probably will be a backlog in stations etc. Up to curtain up time. Brexit for you
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 17:43:38 GMT
Someone on my twitter timeline was at a Glyndebourne performance this afternoon which was affected.
As you say seems the cause of the problem is resolved but a big knock-on effect on all forms of transport.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Aug 9, 2019 17:48:49 GMT
No Thameslink trains from Borehamwood and therefore unable to get into Town to see Europe at the Donmar, too late when I found out to get over to Stanmore and get there by Tube.
Now settling down to a rare Friday night at home.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 17:59:49 GMT
Maybe someone tried turning the UK off and on to see if rebooting it would solve the problem.
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Post by kimbahorel on Aug 9, 2019 18:21:45 GMT
When it went and saw out of out flat it was a widespread issue... dived into the ice cream because you know eat the important stuff first before it melts!!
But it shows how much everything needs the power and its okay people online saying blackouts in 70s were common... but in the 70s not everything was powered like it is today. The knock on effect really causing chaos now though.
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Post by Roxie on Aug 9, 2019 18:41:55 GMT
Power cuts in Stoke but seemed to be limited to the susburbs. Sadly city centre (where my office is) was unaffected but I heard tales of a power cut from home so I went shopping after work and by the time i got home it was on!
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Post by NeilVHughes on Aug 9, 2019 18:52:46 GMT
Having caught up with the issue on the news, on the positive side at least I am fortunate to be home as it seems a lot of people will not have that luxury tonight.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 10, 2019 7:35:37 GMT
Power cuts in Stoke but seemed to be limited to the susburbs. Sadly city centre (where my office is) was unaffected but I heard tales of a power cut from home so I went shopping after work and by the time i got home it was on! Wow Electricity has reached Stoke now?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 11:00:44 GMT
But it shows how much everything needs the power and its okay people online saying blackouts in 70s were common... but in the 70s not everything was powered like it is today. The knock on effect really causing chaos now though. No, that's right. We all still had gas-lamps and clockwork fridges and you put the hamster in a wheel in the kitchen if you wanted to boil the kettle... It was exactly the bl*nking same, worse, in fact. Today it's just a random occurrence of something malfunctioning. Back then it was orchestrated and was unions taking out supposed grievances and politics on ordinary people. Those same ordinary people who had to shop daily as freezers etc weren't common and who lost fridges full of food which was far more expensive than it is today. Plus there was no "real time" communication beyond battery powered radio - OK, OK, "wireless" so nobody knew what was going on, doubling the stress. And we won't go into the rubbish left to rot and unburied corpses etc. Given that this is apparently such an unlikely occurrence, I’m sure that they will be searching to see if there was a, what might be least scarily referred to as, a ‘human element’ involved. Anyway, the transport system has changed markedly and is more prone to electrical failure. The west coast mainline wasn’t electrified until the mid seventies and that was the first major line to do so, the east coast mainline had only just started by then and it took until the early nineties for it to be completed.
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Post by kimbahorel on Aug 10, 2019 12:22:21 GMT
But it shows how much everything needs the power and its okay people online saying blackouts in 70s were common... but in the 70s not everything was powered like it is today. The knock on effect really causing chaos now though. No, that's right. We all still had gas-lamps and clockwork fridges and you put the hamster in a wheel in the kitchen if you wanted to boil the kettle... It was exactly the bl*nking same, worse, in fact. Today it's just a random occurrence of something malfunctioning. Back then it was orchestrated and was unions taking out supposed grievances and politics on ordinary people. Those same ordinary people who had to shop daily as freezers etc weren't common and who lost fridges full of food which was far more expensive than it is today. Plus there was no "real time" communication beyond battery powered radio - OK, OK, "wireless" so nobody knew what was going on, doubling the stress. And we won't go into the rubbish left to rot and unburied corpses etc. Wow! There is being sarcastic and there is just being rude.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 12:46:43 GMT
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Post by lynette on Aug 10, 2019 13:14:03 GMT
No, that's right. We all still had gas-lamps and clockwork fridges and you put the hamster in a wheel in the kitchen if you wanted to boil the kettle... It was exactly the bl*nking same, worse, in fact. Today it's just a random occurrence of something malfunctioning. Back then it was orchestrated and was unions taking out supposed grievances and politics on ordinary people. Those same ordinary people who had to shop daily as freezers etc weren't common and who lost fridges full of food which was far more expensive than it is today. Plus there was no "real time" communication beyond battery powered radio - OK, OK, "wireless" so nobody knew what was going on, doubling the stress. And we won't go into the rubbish left to rot and unburied corpses etc. Wow! There is being sarcastic and there is just being rude. Where is the ‘rude’? It was exactly like said and it was in many ways worse. Of course any failure of this extent is appalling and needs to be addressed pronto. At Ipswich hospital one of their back up generators failed so maybe get that sorted while we are at it. We live in a complacent, acquiescent society which doesn’t know how well off it is. In the 70s we did have resort to the ballot box eventually but I for one can’t forget how some people held the rest of us to ransom.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 13:47:49 GMT
Wow! There is being sarcastic and there is just being rude. Where is the ‘rude’? It was exactly like said and it was in many ways worse. Of course any failure of this extent is appalling and needs to be addressed pronto. At Ipswich hospital one of their back up generators failed so maybe get that sorted while we are at it. We live in a complacent, acquiescent society which doesn’t know how well off it is. In the 70s we did have resort to the ballot box eventually but I for one can’t forget how some people held the rest of us to ransom. Things are not 'exactly the same', I mentioned the change in methods of train transport but I could go on and list plenty more things that are different. Here's one, the way that power is now hackable in a way that was impossible in the seventies, given our current position any power cuts could be through state or other criminal sabotage. You are right that we are complacent but not in a 'things have always been like this' way. We are complacent in that we have left the keys of our democracy in the lock. We are already at war;the way that information is being used to pervert reality is as it has been for decades but the means of doing this is now so much more available to anyone who seeks to do so. Was this sabotage? Don't know but it most definitely has shown those who wish to do so, how easy it will be to cause chaos. There are recent accusations from both the US and Russia that their power grids are being probed in preparation for an attack and we already know how places like Ukraine in 2015 had substations shut down by Russian hackers and that was primitive in comparison to what is now possible.
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Post by kimbahorel on Aug 10, 2019 14:21:16 GMT
Wow! There is being sarcastic and there is just being rude. Where is the ‘rude’? It was exactly like said and it was in many ways worse. Of course any failure of this extent is appalling and needs to be addressed pronto. At Ipswich hospital one of their back up generators failed so maybe get that sorted while we are at it. We live in a complacent, acquiescent society which doesn’t know how well off it is. In the 70s we did have resort to the ballot box eventually but I for one can’t forget how some people held the rest of us to ransom. Yes it was it was it was to berate me, publically. Could have chosen to ignore me. I didn't post anything mean or nasty to anyone. But no a snarky comment to prove a point. This board as got more and more like this I don't know why I even bother some times.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 15:29:43 GMT
I'm a bit concerned that there's talk of fining National Grid for the problems.
Things break down. You can build as much redundancy into systems as you like, but it's expensive and if they'd built in too much surplus capacity people would have accused them of wasting money. The important thing is to learn where the points of failure are and adjust your plans accordingly. What you don't do is treat people as if they were naughty children doing it for a prank.
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 10, 2019 16:07:14 GMT
Where is the ‘rude’? It was exactly like said and it was in many ways worse. Of course any failure of this extent is appalling and needs to be addressed pronto. At Ipswich hospital one of their back up generators failed so maybe get that sorted while we are at it. We live in a complacent, acquiescent society which doesn’t know how well off it is. In the 70s we did have resort to the ballot box eventually but I for one can’t forget how some people held the rest of us to ransom. Yes it was it was it was to berate me, publically. Could have chosen to ignore me. I didn't post anything mean or nasty to anyone. But no a snarky comment to prove a point. This board as got more and more like this I don't know why I even bother some times. I knew what you meant and thought the response was a tad harsh-sounding.
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Post by Latecomer on Aug 10, 2019 20:34:22 GMT
I remember rather enjoying the power cuts of the 70s....we had a Tilly lamp we used to light up the room and I think we used it as an excuse to not do homework! Poor parents may have been stressing about it all but as children we accepted every excuse given to not work!
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Post by xanady on Aug 10, 2019 20:41:30 GMT
^In the style of the famous Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen sketch....and to try and lighten the mood...Tilly lamps? We were so poor,we had to make do with candles...true story...lol...we also had a thing called the three day week...check out Wiki for more facts.
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Post by Sotongal on Aug 10, 2019 21:02:41 GMT
Was a young girl living with my parents in a thirteenth floor flat during the 'Winter of Discontent' as it was known in 1978/79.
My main memories of this time were the unannounced power cuts, because of striking National Grid workers, which meant walking up/down twenty six flights of stairs (even harder work for mums with kids and buggies); people getting stuck in the lifts, so firemen had to come and winch up the lifts to get them out and being in a flat meant everything was electrical so we had to light candles until the power came on again (not forgetting this was Winter). Also, my uncle died and was left in the undertakers for some weeks (as were others) as the gravediggers were on strike and then seeing images of Leicester Square in the media, which had been turned into one massive rubbish tip as the bin men were on strike. People only had landlines or had to find a telephone box to ring anyone then, too.
This was not a Monty Python sketch, (though I can see it might read like one!😀) but what was actually happening then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 21:33:27 GMT
Another thing I remember, shops and pubs stayed open during power cuts, as the tills were manual. Today they wouldn’t be able to, unless they could quickly change to a cash system (which would probably screw things up further).
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Post by Backdrifter on Aug 10, 2019 23:44:01 GMT
I remember rather enjoying the power cuts of the 70s My siblings and I definitely did. We'd all cheer when the lights went off and boo when they came back on. It was exciting and there was something nice about the flickering candles. At a previous job a colleague of about the same age and I would occasionally baffle a young recently graduated colleague with Tales Of What It Was Like In The 70s. She couldn't believe us about the frequent power cuts. Wednesday half-day closing was another one she struggled with.
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Post by xanady on Aug 11, 2019 8:38:55 GMT
^Yes,I actually remember doing homework by candlelight...the local corner-shop actually limited candle sales...my gran said it felt like wartime again...we had power cuts,no litter being collected,gravediggers on strike.The unions and govt in constant conflict...You couldn’t make it up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 11:35:49 GMT
This is part of the problem this country has, rose tinted nostalgia for something that was destructive and which badly affected the nation for years. The reality was much worse and needs to be said as well. We don’t want it, or a war, or a massive disruption of the country and should be explaining the reality and stopping anything that would lead to it, either through an oil crisis, a strike or, shockingly, the self inflicted knifing in the gut of Brexit. I appreciate that it’s necessary to make the most of what is inflicted on us but to do it on purpose to ourselves is just psychotic.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Aug 11, 2019 11:41:28 GMT
On another note, @theatremonkey I can vaguely remember that you posted that you took out insurance for events like these when you are unable to attend a show due to circumstances beyond your control.
Thinking about it, due to the number of shows I see each year I miss about one show a year due to transport issues and insurance may be well worth considering.
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