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Post by Stasia on Jun 27, 2019 7:45:13 GMT
Dear board members,
Here in Moscow we have a musical theatre club with "lectures" on different MT-related topics. Those who have bigger knowledge just share interesting facts. And in a couple of weeks it's my turn! I will be talking about the principal-cover-stanby-alternate differences and how it all works in different shows. I have quite a few examples from my theatregoing experiences but I am sure you have more. Could you please share with me all the unusual stories you have that related to the topic?
Like the fact that there is someone in female ensemble in Les Mis who covers Gavrouche if smth happens (what has to happen for a woman to go on?) I lnow there was a moment with 2 or 3 alternate Christines in POTO at some point - how did that work? How did alternating the part of Effie work in Dreamgirls? Were there any unusual situations where alternates were getting more shows than pricipals? (not because of holidays/health)? Any more stories with female ensemble members going on male tracks? Some of the most amazing splitting the lines you remember? West End, tours, Broadway - anything you'd like to talk about!
Please share! And I would be extrmely grateful if you'll give the full name of the actor, show and maybe the year if you remember it? Thanks loads!
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Post by Nelly on Jun 27, 2019 8:22:16 GMT
There's a good one about Mary Poppins during its original West End run. There was a lengthy show stop that went on so long that the show would have ended past the legal working time for the two kids playing Jane and Michael, so they sent on the shortest adults in the cast for the last few scenes in the show!
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Post by Stasia on Jun 27, 2019 8:56:15 GMT
There's a good one about Mary Poppins during its original West End run. There was a lengthy show stop that went on so long that the show would have ended past the legal working time for the two kids playing Jane and Michael, so they sent on the shortest adults in the cast for the last few scenes in the show! YES! Exactly the kind of story I need! Hope there will be more...
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Post by ahaz on Jun 27, 2019 10:40:24 GMT
Not as interesting as the above story but I find the alternates at Six interesting. They seem to go on to cover more than any other alternates/understudies I know in other shows (I suppose it's an unusual format for a show) and each covers 2 queens, so you can go multiple times and never see the same actors as the same queens. I remember at the start that Grace Mouat (I think) covered all 6 queens, I wondered what would happen if more than one was off!
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Post by viserys on Jun 27, 2019 10:48:59 GMT
A good example for gender-neutral roles is Wrench in Starlight Express: The role was/is generally cast with a female performer, but when they were short of female swings in Bochum, a male performer would take over (and even do the choreography in Pumping Iron, where all the girls fawn over Greaseball). For a while they even had male first cast before the role became female again. That said, trains generally don't have a gender, so it doesn't matter
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Post by Steffi on Jun 27, 2019 10:58:57 GMT
My friend Kara Tremel was dance captain in the US National tour of Jersey Boys a few years back. Once they were so short on cast she had to go on for one of the male ensemble parts in one scene. And since it wouldn't have worked to just let that role be female she went on in a regular suit with fake moustache and all. It was a speaking part, too, so I'm sure that did raise a few eyebrows in the audience that night.
Also Jason Winter (Kinky Boots - West End and now tour) has covered several ensemble parts at once in one show. I think he is the master of the split track by now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 11:31:06 GMT
There was a tour of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers a few years ago that was desperately short of brides as a result of illness, so the company manager found a costume that fit her and went on as one of the brides. She wasn't up to speed with the choreography so she disappeared during the dance numbers.
I've known a few cases where a long-running show has been so short of cast that they've borrowed someone who had been in the show before to come back and play a role, such as when Jo Gibb was seconded back into Cats to play Rumpleteazer.
And then there's the famous case of Martine McCutcheon's health problems in My Fair Lady at the National that resulted in first cover Alexandra Jay getting regularly scheduled performances when the show transferred to Drury Lane.
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Post by Stasia on Jun 27, 2019 11:32:15 GMT
My friend Kara Tremel was dance captain in the US National tour of Jersey Boys a few years back. Once they were so short on cast she had to go on for one of the male ensemble parts in one scene. And since it wouldn't have worked to just let that role be female she went on in a regular suit with fake moustache and all. It was a speaking part, too, so I'm sure that did raise a few eyebrows in the audience that night. Also Jason Winter (Kinky Boots - West End and now tour) has covered several ensemble parts at once in one show. I think he is the master of the split track by now. We had once a girl (a tiny one!) going on a male track in The Sound Of Music! Love such stories. I also remember Joe Davenport going on a female track in Memphis! Do you remember Jason covering more than 2 tracks? Or was it 2 at a time?
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Post by Stasia on Jun 27, 2019 11:34:38 GMT
There was a tour of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers a few years ago that was desperately short of brides as a result of illness, so the company manager found a costume that fit her and went on as one of the brides. She wasn't up to speed with the choreography so she disappeared during the dance numbers. I've known a few cases where a long-running show has been so short of cast that they've borrowed someone who had been in the show before to come back and play a role, such as when Jo Gibb was seconded back into Cats to play Rumpleteazer. And then there's the famous case of Martine McCutcheon's health problems in My Fair Lady at the National that resulted in first cover Alexandra Jay getting regularly scheduled performances when the show transferred to Drury Lane. the brides story is hilarious! We had a (female) horeographer going on a male track in Cats once in Russia And I think Kinky Boots London had someone returning to save the situation all the time
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Post by Stasia on Jun 27, 2019 11:36:06 GMT
A good example for gender-neutral roles is Wrench in Starlight Express: The role was/is generally cast with a female performer, but when they were short of female swings in Bochum, a male performer would take over (and even do the choreography in Pumping Iron, where all the girls fawn over Greaseball). For a while they even had male first cast before the role became female again. That said, trains generally don't have a gender, so it doesn't matter Oh, thanks! does someone remember more of the gender-neutral examples? Love it!
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Post by Steffi on Jun 27, 2019 11:38:49 GMT
My friend Kara Tremel was dance captain in the US National tour of Jersey Boys a few years back. Once they were so short on cast she had to go on for one of the male ensemble parts in one scene. And since it wouldn't have worked to just let that role be female she went on in a regular suit with fake moustache and all. It was a speaking part, too, so I'm sure that did raise a few eyebrows in the audience that night. Also Jason Winter (Kinky Boots - West End and now tour) has covered several ensemble parts at once in one show. I think he is the master of the split track by now. We had once a girl (a tiny one!) going on a male track in The Sound Of Music! Love such stories. I also remember Joe Davenport going on a female track in Memphis! Do you remember Jason covering more than 2 tracks? Or was it 2 at a time? I am pretty sure Jason covered more than two tracks only recently.
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Post by Stasia on Jun 27, 2019 11:57:55 GMT
Not as interesting as the above story but I find the alternates at Six interesting. They seem to go on to cover more than any other alternates/understudies I know in other shows (I suppose it's an unusual format for a show) and each covers 2 queens, so you can go multiple times and never see the same actors as the same queens. I remember at the start that Grace Mouat (I think) covered all 6 queens, I wondered what would happen if more than one was off! Also will serve as a nice example of a show with no ensemble and just leads!
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 27, 2019 12:05:21 GMT
I assume you've already got the story of Steph Parry rushing mid-show from 42nd Street to save the day at Mamma Mia?
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Post by Kim on Jun 27, 2019 12:10:33 GMT
Strictly Ballroon last year, one of the Dance captains broke her foot, she also covered 9 tracks, during the few months she couldn't perform they had to call someone from the Leeds/Toronto cast to cover one role, another girl became a third cover to a track she'd originally covered in the Leeds production. Then came the show that had so many covers she ended up going on with an air boot. The swings were doing split tracks all over the place, great fun to watch
Grease 2017 tour, they cut the ensemble down meaning there were more then a few shows with just 1 Male or female ensemble, they called in the associate choreographer to cover the female ensemble a few times and there were 2 shows with no female ensemble since they were covering leads
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 27, 2019 12:23:14 GMT
In case of shortage of actresses, three female roles from Nine can be turned into male roles: Liliane La Fleur becomes Maurice, Lina Darling becomes Leo and Stephanie Necrophorus becomes Stephen Necrophorus. Maury Yeston licensed and approved this choice, but I'm not sure if any major production ever had a man stepping in for these roles. It would be interesting to see an actor play Liliane/Maurice, since the role is generally starry-cast and award-winning, with people like Chita Rivera, Eartha Kitt or Judi Dench playing in on stage or screen.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 27, 2019 14:05:02 GMT
My friend Kara Tremel was dance captain in the US National tour of Jersey Boys a few years back. Once they were so short on cast she had to go on for one of the male ensemble parts in one scene. And since it wouldn't have worked to just let that role be female she went on in a regular suit with fake moustache and all. It was a speaking part, too, so I'm sure that did raise a few eyebrows in the audience that night. Ha! I saw Kara Tremel as all three women in Jersey Boys at various times in 2007. I had no idea about this story.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 27, 2019 14:40:38 GMT
I think he is the master of the split track by now. Revealing my ignorance here: what's a split track?
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Post by Stasia on Jun 27, 2019 14:49:00 GMT
I think he is the master of the split track by now. Revealing my ignorance here: what's a split track? Track is the number of roles ensemble actor has during the show (like: Villager, Spoon, One of the Gaston's gang in the Beauty and the Beast) If there are not enough people to cover all the tracks some tracks are split between other people on stage, meaning they are singing some other track's lines
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Post by westendwilma on Jun 27, 2019 15:03:21 GMT
Didn't a lady go on and play the genie a few months ago in Aladdin on Broadway?
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Post by partytentdown on Jun 27, 2019 16:45:19 GMT
One of Aladdin's pals who is usually a male has been covered by a female a few times in the West end.
There's the famous story of Gwen Verdon going off in the original run of Chicago only for an announcement to happen saying she would be covered by Liza Minelli!
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 27, 2019 16:54:35 GMT
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 27, 2019 18:03:44 GMT
I've seen a female Gavroche, Daisy Maywood. She was the best Gavroche I've ever seen!
Both the long-running Mischief shows occasionally have to gender-swap a character. In The Comedy About A Bank Robbery it's fairly minor, just one of the female ensemble members covering a male ensemble track. In The Play That Goes Wrong it's more interesting because Trevor gets gender-swapped to Tessa. I've seen this happen once & it was very interesting, though it does make the scene when Trevor has to stand in a Florence less amusing than it usually is.
In terms of a shortage of ensemble, I once saw a performance of Phantom where they were so short on ensemble members that ther was no-one to play Madame Firmin so in the short scene in which she appears there was a bit of re-distirbution of lines so Firmin & Andre could cover for her absence.
I don't know if you're interested in opera examples but the scheduled singer who has lost their voice acting the role while another singer stands at the side of the stage and sings is pretty common. I must have seen it a dozen times between the verious UK opera companies. I once saw 2 performances where the scheduled singer was so ill that she couldn't even act the role so the assistant director had to step in & act. She was a good actress, I don't know if she had trained as one before moving into directing or not, but it was rather unfortunate that she was very petite, one of the 2 roles was a trouser role (i.e. a woman playing a male role) & she was at least half a head shorter than the singer playing the (female) love interest.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 27, 2019 18:16:05 GMT
Does this board not recognize Tripod links? Anyway, google Bobbie Chatt and Gavroche.
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Post by danb on Jun 27, 2019 18:38:34 GMT
There was a tour of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers a few years ago that was desperately short of brides as a result of illness, so the company manager found a costume that fit her and went on as one of the brides. She wasn't up to speed with the choreography so she disappeared during the dance numbers. I've known a few cases where a long-running show has been so short of cast that they've borrowed someone who had been in the show before to come back and play a role, such as when Jo Gibb was seconded back into Cats to play Rumpleteazer. And then there's the famous case of Martine McCutcheon's health problems in My Fair Lady at the National that resulted in first cover Alexandra Jay getting regularly scheduled performances when the show transferred to Drury Lane. Ahhh Alex Jay...how I loved she. ❤️
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Post by crabtree on Jun 27, 2019 20:25:05 GMT
I saw a glorious production of Pirates of Penzance which was being signed by a very active lady signer in costume to one side. As it happened on that performance the scheduled Mabel had lost her voice, so she danced and mimed around the stage whilst on the other side of the stage a singer, also in costume, sang the role. At one point three Mabels seemed to be singing Poor wand'ring one. It didn't harm the evening at all. They all played to each other.
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