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Post by danb on Mar 22, 2021 11:12:52 GMT
I hedged my bets and bought the cheapest possible tickets just in case...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 11:19:08 GMT
Would add - (recent) past performance is the best predictor of how good/bad/to one's taste something will be.
For ALW in the last 20 odd years, that's Beautiful Game, Tell Me (new songs) Woman in White, Love Never Dies, Wizard of Oz (new songs), Stephen Ward, School of Rock.
If mixed up in that lot there's enough you find enjoyable, chances are you'll enjoy this I'd guess. If there isn't chances are you won't!
Musically at least, it's highly unlikely to be a radical departure from these styles.
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Post by alece10 on Mar 22, 2021 12:31:13 GMT
Took the plunge and have booked for early July.
Managed for find an aisle stalls seat for a reasonable price so I am happy
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 22, 2021 19:15:32 GMT
I remember the last time ALW was really enthusiastic about a story. Couldn’t stop raving about how Ben Elton had “unlocked” the story for a Phantom sequel.... Oh God, don't lol. I also remember the unlocking. However: - Love Never Dies did run over a year and made it significantly past a cast change. Though that was a gulf away from what was wanted for LND, I think that would really be a success for a new British sung through musical in the current climate if Cinderella achieved it. - Emerald Fennell is probably better at this sort of thing than Ben Elton. She has next to no experience of writing for the stage let alone creating a book for a musical. So we really don't know if she is better than anyone at this sort of thing. She is talented but musicals are a long way from what she has done up to this point |
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Post by alittlefallofrain on Mar 23, 2021 0:41:54 GMT
An odd response.
It's been pimped out several times now, which does make sense as it's clearly the Big Number from the show, but after so many performances of it on TV/Youtube/whatever it's already sounding very stale.
What's so bad about wanting to see what else the show has got to offer?
It just seemed a very strong statement. When an artist brings out an album they release a single to publicise it, so one expects to hear it a fair bit. It’s hardly a new concept.
I just can't remember seeing a musical theatre song as heavily promoted as that one singular song before the show opens, that's all. I've seen other people say they are already sick of it too.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 23, 2021 10:57:43 GMT
It just seemed a very strong statement. When an artist brings out an album they release a single to publicise it, so one expects to hear it a fair bit. It’s hardly a new concept.
I just can't remember seeing a musical theatre song as heavily promoted as that one singular song before the show opens, that's all. I've seen other people say they are already sick of it too.
Theatre newswise it's very slow at the moment. If we didn't have a pandemic I suspect Cinderella and Carrie would get a lot less press |
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 24, 2021 12:38:01 GMT
FAR TOO LATE is a much better song.
Though it sounds like it should be from Phantom 3; The revenge of Meg
Hahahahaha
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Post by danb on Mar 24, 2021 14:51:36 GMT
It just seemed a very strong statement. When an artist brings out an album they release a single to publicise it, so one expects to hear it a fair bit. It’s hardly a new concept.
I just can't remember seeing a musical theatre song as heavily promoted as that one singular song before the show opens, that's all. I've seen other people say they are already sick of it too.
I think it’ “sick of it” thats the problem. Its a phrase used to a child when they behave badly, or a meal that you have too often...not a song or a piece of art. |
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Post by happytobehere on Mar 24, 2021 14:53:33 GMT
Why do they seem to be holding off on announcing the rest of the cast? You look on their website and you still only see the main 3. Normally you’d see the rest of the cast by now.
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Post by Seriously on Mar 24, 2021 15:02:54 GMT
Presumably because that might give away plot spoilers.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Mar 24, 2021 15:50:47 GMT
I would say {Spoiler - click to view}Helen George as the Queen is an open secret. It was in Hello, and she's visible in the rehearsal pictures that have been allowed to stay up on Instagram. I saw one with more people before it was deleted, but I don't know who they were specifically trying to hide, because I didn't know who most of them were! Lauren Byrne (SiX) is in the pictures in a newspaper article about starting rehearsals, and has tweeted about it, but she might be in the ensemble? I don't really see how releasing more names would be more of a plot spoiler than the cast list from the workshop. |
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Post by Theatre Fan on Mar 24, 2021 15:55:01 GMT
I would say {Spoiler - click to view}Helen George as the Queen is an open secret. It was in Hello, and she's visible in the rehearsal pictures that have been allowed to stay up on Instagram. I saw one with more people before it was deleted, but I don't know who they were specifically trying to hide, because I didn't know who most of them were! Lauren Byrne (SiX) is in the pictures in a newspaper article about starting rehearsals, and has tweeted about it, but she might be in the ensemble? I don't really see how releasing more names would be more of a plot spoiler than the cast list from the workshop. I believe Lauren Byrne is ensemble/understudy Cinderella as I understand it  x |
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 24, 2021 22:01:10 GMT
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 24, 2021 22:17:57 GMT
Ah grand, would much prefer to see Lauren!
I'd read Bonnie Langford is in this - Fairy Godmother?
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Post by lolalou on Mar 25, 2021 2:05:37 GMT
I’d also like to see Lauren as Cinderella.
Does anyone know - Is she an alternate with set dates or will she go on of CHF can’t make it/gets ill?
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Post by FairyGodmother on Mar 25, 2021 10:57:48 GMT
I'd read Bonnie Langford is in this - Fairy Godmother? You called?  I don't think there's a Fairy Godmother on the cast list from the workshop, so presumably s/he has a normal name as well? I know it's not the Cinderella we're expecting, but I think you still need a Fairy Godmother! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 11:06:23 GMT
FAR TOO LATE is a much better song. Though it sounds like it should be from Phantom 3; The revenge of Meg Hahahahaha I am here for this. It can go into the Adelphi after Back To The Future. |
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 25, 2021 11:12:31 GMT
In the ballet version I saw in 2019, the Fairy Godmother was replaced with a magician, who happened to be a male.
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Post by alittlefallofrain on Mar 26, 2021 6:42:24 GMT
I just can't remember seeing a musical theatre song as heavily promoted as that one singular song before the show opens, that's all. I've seen other people say they are already sick of it too.
I think it’ “sick of it” thats the problem. Its a phrase used to a child when they behave badly, or a meal that you have too often...not a song or a piece of art. Deleted.
Can't be bothered.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Mar 26, 2021 11:51:10 GMT
In the ballet version I saw in 2019, the Fairy Godmother was replaced with a magician, who happened to be a male. Was that Matthew Bourne's? It worked really well in that. Off topic, but... I hoped I'd love it (the posters looked fantastic, I like the music, the dancers were all brilliant), but I've come to the conclusion that his versions of fairy tales just don't really do it for me. A friend took me to "Sleeping Beauty...but with vampires" 7 or 8 years ago which was a bit of a shock — I'd told him I loved the ballet, but the video I'd grown up with was very different! I enjoyed The Car Man, and his Swan Lake, so it isn't that I don't enjoy his style under some circumstances, but I didn't like either fairytale. I wouldn't mind a male of female version of the Fairy Godmother (or a role that can be played by either, although I appreciate that's harder when it's sung through), but I think you definitely need that character. |
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Mar 26, 2021 12:39:49 GMT
I'd read Bonnie Langford is in this - Fairy Godmother? You called? I don't think there's a Fairy Godmother on the cast list from the workshop, so presumably s/he has a normal name as well? I know it's not the Cinderella we're expecting, but I think you still need a Fairy Godmother! In the original Grimms fairytale, there is no fairy godmother. Originally the magic came from a tree planted in memory of Cinderella's mother, which I think Cinderella waters with her own tears... Anyway, she prays under said tree every day. Then on the night of the ball, she sits under the tree and wishes for clothing, which is then dropped from the sky by a passing white bird and which she has to return before sunrise. It sounds rather comical when it's put so bluntly, but I think it could actually be portrayed quite beautifully if done right. So it's possible the musical is based on this version of the fairytale and just won't feature a fairy godmother at all. |
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Post by FairyGodmother on Mar 26, 2021 12:46:21 GMT
That's the version used in Into the Woods isn't it? I'm so used to the Perrault version I'd completely forgotten it was a Grimms one originally!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 26, 2021 13:34:26 GMT
That's the version used in Into the Woods isn't it? I'm so used to the Perrault version I'd completely forgotten it was a Grimms one originally! Similar. The mother appears in the tree and then a dress appears. I'm the Rossini version (I suspect he based it on something) Cinders is kind to a homeless man and he then later transforms her into a ball bound princess. |
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 26, 2021 15:15:52 GMT
It was the Northern Ballet production I saw...twice. I enjoyed it so much the first time, I went to see it again from a better seat in a different theatre. That production, which is set in and around Moscow, has music by Philip Feeney and a story by Patricia Doyle. (I won't lie, I had to refresh my memory on the internet.) After the stepmother and sisters have left for the ball, leaving Cinderella all alone, she answers a knock at the kitchen door. Standing there is the shivering Magician, whom she immediately invites inside. Moved by Cinderella's kindness, the Magician insists she will go to the ball and uses his powers to conjure a beautiful sleigh to transport her. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 26, 2021 16:40:36 GMT
In the original Grimms fairytale, there is no fairy godmother. Originally the magic came from a tree planted in memory of Cinderella's mother, which I think Cinderella waters with her own tears... Anyway, she prays under said tree every day. Then on the night of the ball, she sits under the tree and wishes for clothing, which is then dropped from the sky by a passing white bird and which she has to return before sunrise. Wheeldon's ballet version of Cinderella, that ENB did in 2019, had a version of this, but it was elaborated with the corps de ballet representing the four seasons to make it a big ensemble number. There were many fabulous costumes & it was visually very attractive. |
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