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Post by theatreian on Oct 30, 2020 17:33:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 18:28:23 GMT
It sounds okay but it sounds a little odd. I think it sounds like it was written on a piano, potentially as a ballad, then vocals were added to that instrumental and then they played around with it a bit and settled on a guitar mix.
Too many elements at play I think, and this is going to make me sound so northern, but Carrie’s vocal doesn’t work for me. Technically it’s flawless, but it’s too ‘Queen’s English’ - she seems to be pronouncing every single damn letter perfectly and it strips it of all personality.
Maybe that worked when it was just a piano song, but I’m not sure it works here in this mix.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Oct 30, 2020 19:13:50 GMT
ALW and Carrie Hope Fletcher currently on the ONE Show - BBC and Carrie will be singing Bad Cinderella. ALW just confirmed that Cinderella won't be until May...
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Post by stevej678 on Oct 30, 2020 19:32:08 GMT
Previews now due to start 30 April. All existing bookings will be moved back six weeks.
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Post by danb on Oct 30, 2020 20:09:48 GMT
As an opening, ‘introduction to the character’ type song it’s fine. No doubt it will stop & start, with bits of business going on.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Oct 30, 2020 21:05:59 GMT
ALW and Carrie Hope Fletcher currently on the ONE Show - BBC and Carrie will be singing Bad Cinderella. ALW just confirmed that Cinderella won't be until May... Apologies theatreian didn't see your post from earlier! I always find it so awkward with ALW in interviews. Carrie came across really well and thought she did a great job. This just doesn't appeal to me at all I'm afraid. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 30, 2020 22:40:52 GMT
Good god that new song is just terrible.
My non existent level of excitement about this show has just gone down even further.
ALW is so out of touch with what’s current and yet he’s clearly desperate to make this appeal to the younger generation.
Can’t wait to hear the rap number.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 30, 2020 23:56:21 GMT
I've just seen the music video which has a mock period style. A bit like the film of Marie Antoinette a few years ago.
This really jars with the reference in the text to plexiglass
Anachronism can work but it just jars here.
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Post by chernjam on Oct 31, 2020 1:05:37 GMT
Had little interest in School of Rock - never went to see it (a first for me with ALW) but have been intrigued with this - and I really enjoyed the new track. While I hope that he will do a new recording once it finally makes it to stage as it will definitely change again - but always excited to hear a new score from ALW
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Post by AddisonMizner on Oct 31, 2020 11:06:16 GMT
“Also chuffed to see it's a double CD so hopefully more sung through than School of Rock and Stephen Ward were!”
Where did you see that it was a double album? Is there any news on a release date for it? It is supposedly being released before the show isn’t it?
I quite like the new song. Yes, it is in a cheesy pop style, but the show is clearly a more modern take on the material, so he is trying to write in that style. Lloyd Webber can be very hit and miss, both in his shows and within the drama, but I always applaud how he creates a very specific sound world for each of his shows. I prefer ‘Bad Cinderella’ to the previously released ‘Far Too Late’ which I found overly repetitive and didn’t really develop or go anywhere.
Anyway, I can’t wait to see the show when it finally opens. It will certainly be an event!
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 31, 2020 11:25:28 GMT
Where did you see that it was a double album? Is there any news on a release date for it? If you order it from a certain well-known online retailer, for example, then it gives the number of discs as 2 under Product Information. The vinyl version consists of 3 records, so they clearly aren't *that* long playing! 🙂 The same well-known online retailer has the release date as Saturday 30 October 2021, which seems unlikely, unless it knows the date the show will actually open. ☹ |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Oct 31, 2020 11:39:25 GMT
I love Carrie, she’s great. But god ALW is very out of his depth it seems. It’s as if he’s trying to cater to younger audiences by mimicking the sound of & Juliet/Six but it’s just not really working. I can’t put my finger on it but it just sounds like someone trying so hard to be edgy/cool. This is literally word-for-word what I've been trying to articulate. YES. 100%. I just think... 'is this REALLY THE BEST THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH ANDREW!!!?!?' And the fact he says, 'MY Cinderella,' in every interview I have seen. No. |
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Post by anita on Oct 31, 2020 13:58:13 GMT
“Also chuffed to see it's a double CD so hopefully more sung through than School of Rock and Stephen Ward were!” Where did you see that it was a double album? Is there any news on a release date for it? It is supposedly being released before the show isn’t it? I quite like the new song. Yes, it is in a cheesy pop style, but the show is clearly a more modern take on the material, so he is trying to write in that style. Lloyd Webber can be very hit and miss, both in his shows and within the drama, but I always applaud how he creates a very specific sound world for each of his shows. I prefer ‘Bad Cinderella’ to the previously released ‘Far Too Late’ which I found overly repetitive and didn’t really develop or go anywhere. Anyway, I can’t wait to see the show when it finally opens. It will certainly be an event! If you order as I have from LW theatre website it says double CD out 21/5. |
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Post by theatreian on Oct 31, 2020 14:36:46 GMT
Where did you see that it was a double album? Is there any news on a release date for it? It is supposedly being released before the show isn’t it? The link to Andres's Cinderella shop is here where you can order the cd or vinyl album. cinderella.lnk.to/AlbumWE |
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Post by musicalmarge on Oct 31, 2020 16:06:17 GMT
I love Carrie, she’s great. But god ALW is very out of his depth it seems. It’s as if he’s trying to cater to younger audiences by mimicking the sound of & Juliet/Six but it’s just not really working. I can’t put my finger on it but it just sounds like someone trying so hard to be edgy/cool. This is literally word-for-word what I've been trying to articulate. YES. 100%. I just think... 'is this REALLY THE BEST THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH ANDREW!!!?!?' And the fact he says, 'MY Cinderella,' in every interview I have seen. No. Both songs I’ve heard from this show are both naff, sound like other songs from other shows and Carrie seems odd casting. Far Too Late seems like it’s better sung by a soprano! |
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Post by singularsensation10 on Oct 31, 2020 16:45:49 GMT
Out of interest, why don’t they release a chart friendly version of songs like they used to? They used to release a version of a song from the show (ie I Know Him So Well) and they would chart well, giving the score a familiar appeal. People would go and see new stuff because they were familiar with the songs- rather than being familiar with the ‘names’ playing the leads.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 1, 2020 0:42:45 GMT
I did wonder whether it has to be branded as "MY Cinderella" to differentiate it from R&H's? They should have just gone for modern and edgy and called it "Cinderz".
While I'm still not a fan of the skirt in the logo (whoever said it looked like a scrotum, I haven't been able to get past it, so thanks for that) I do like the E and R forming the glass slipper.
I feel bad being so critical early on, because I like ALW, and I've had a bit of a girl crush on Emerald Fennel ever since she was in Call the Midwife. I'm just having trouble with how the story is going to work. It's my favourite pantomime, I love the Slipper and the Rose, and have enjoyed quite a lot of spins on it, so it's not like I'm some sort of Perrault purist! I just can't quite get behind the idea of Cinderella being so full of teenage angst. The idea of the Prince being gay is a bit of a stumbling block to my idea of how Cinderells ends, but I'll presume she's written a good satisfying alternative ending.
I liked Far Too Late (even if it did sound a bit like the song from the new Beauty and the Beast), so if there are more songs like that, and Bad Cinderella is a scene-setting song (designed to pull teenagers in by sounding a bit modern) I might yet change my mind.
Basically, I'm impatient and struggling with not knowing the plot! Which is funny, because I wouldn't generally look up the plot before I go to something. I think because I feel I know how Cinderella should go, the songs and images we've had so far don't fit with that and that's why I'm not so keen.
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Post by scarpia on Nov 1, 2020 15:16:30 GMT
I love Carrie, she’s great. But god ALW is very out of his depth it seems. It’s as if he’s trying to cater to younger audiences by mimicking the sound of & Juliet/Six but it’s just not really working. I can’t put my finger on it but it just sounds like someone trying so hard to be edgy/cool. This is literally word-for-word what I've been trying to articulate. YES. 100%. I just think... 'is this REALLY THE BEST THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH ANDREW!!!?!?' And the fact he says, 'MY Cinderella,' in every interview I have seen. No. I thought exactly the same. The lyrics are pretty dire but not quite as bad as Zippel's work on The Woman in White. However, the project does have a vitality to it sorely missing from Stephen Ward, which just felt as though he wrote it because he was bored. Well, I think a lot of his post- Sunset shows were just written because he had nothing else to do. |
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Post by stuart on Nov 1, 2020 22:17:28 GMT
I really want to buy the signed vinyl because ALW rarely does signed merchandise but I don’t want to shell out £40 until I know there’s going to be good content on there. Bad Cinderella hasn’t convinced me so far.
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Post by carmella1 on Nov 2, 2020 6:40:35 GMT
Anyone know who the princes are?
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Post by musicalmarge on Nov 2, 2020 12:54:29 GMT
Anyone know who the princes are? I will give you 25273627374747745 pounds that they go down the bame casting route. (Not saying that’s bad) |
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Post by hitmewithurbethshot on Nov 2, 2020 14:44:16 GMT
This was the cast from the workshop, iirc Sebastian was the one Cinderella ended up with |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 23:48:49 GMT
Must admit, Bad Cinderella has become a bit of a grower.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 3, 2020 2:02:58 GMT
This was the cast from the workshop, iirc Sebastian was the one Cinderella ended up with I feel a bit sorry for Prince Charming, relegated to an ensemble character! |
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Post by carmella1 on Nov 3, 2020 4:57:41 GMT
Prince Charming in the ensemble is quite a change. I thought he might be paired with another prince in the say way as Into the Woods. Why call it Cinderella at all.
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