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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 13:58:41 GMT
Due to the nature of scenes performers play together and being together a lot of the time, I can see how they might fall for each other. Lots of people in the business date good luck to OO and CHF.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 22:04:16 GMT
Carrie posted on her Instagram about how she has had a recent influx of people coming up to her and saying hi on the train, then sitting next to her and chatting to her for upwards of an hour when she usually does writing on the train. This seems so weird to me that anyone would see this as appropriate if there are plenty of places to sit.
What do you guys think about this kind of thing?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 22:48:07 GMT
It’s rude and entitled, and puts the famous person in a horrible position because people these days will rip you apart on Twitter for the slightest perceived slight. So they either endure the journey/attention or they say they can’t talk and run the risk of upsetting/angering someone.
I suffer from debilitating politeness and it is my nightmare to have say to someone “this interaction is now over.” I’ve learnt a bunch of rapport breaking techniques to help, but I still find it so hard.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 22:54:39 GMT
That's weird. These fans need to stop, seriously. It's okay to say hi, but leave her alone.
I have a similar story. Went to see Dreamgirls with a friend in 2017, then we stagedoored and talked to some cast members, including the girl that played Lorrell that evening (can't remember her name). Waiting for the tube at Charing Cross we noticed she was there, she noticed us too, we said hi, but that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 22:58:16 GMT
That's weird. These fans need to stop, seriously. It's okay to say hi, but leave her alone. I have a similar story. Went to see Dreamgirls with a friend in 2017, then we stagedoored and talked to some cast members, including the girl that played Lorrell that evening (can't remember her name). Waiting for the tube at Charing Cross we noticed she was there, she noticed us too, we said hi, but that's it. The same thing happened with me and Louise Dearman at the train station. We had met a few years before and I said hi and she remembered me and said hi too and had a quick little chat then went on our way. It's OK to say hi and be respectful, but to do what these fans are doing is so weird!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 0:07:29 GMT
I've seen many performers around and about after I've stage doored them. I've helped some with luggage onto trains but if I see them again, the most I'd do is nod or smile at them, say hi etc. Certainly not sit by them if there were other seats available or stop them doing from whatever they may be doing on their journey.
Ironically I've actually heard of performers seeing someone they may have just met at an SD and sitting on opposite seats on late night trains which are a bit crowded. Apparently the performers felt more comfortable sitting by someone they might have spoken to earlier rather than a complete stranger but both parties were female so mutual safety in numbers makes sense.
With regards to CHF - certainly it's okay to say hi, I like your show, book, blog maybe ask for a selfie but don't impose on her especially if she has her laptop out or is on her phone etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 9:25:47 GMT
You KNOW we all got a bit excited at the CHF being bumped up....
Anyway I think once again it's probably, to make a sweeping generalisation, younger fans who have grown up with that blurred wall of social media not 'getting' what's appropriate. I do think it's a minority (no less uncomfortable for the performer) who are just missing those basic social cues/knowledge of what's appropriate.
Personally I'm shy and awkward as hell so the likelihood of me approaching a performer 'in the wild' is limited. But in theory, if I was say in a coffee shop waiting for a drink and CHF was ahead of me/also waiting I wouldn't see anything wrong with a quick 'hey you're Carrie? I really like your books/you in x show' etc etc because that's also a situation where people make 'small talk' too. Similarly on a train platform I think it's fine to say a passing 'loved the show' and putting myself in performers shoes that seems like a nice and non threatening interaction to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 21:45:26 GMT
You KNOW we all got a bit excited at the CHF being bumped up.... Anyway I think once again it's probably, to make a sweeping generalisation, younger fans who have grown up with that blurred wall of social media not 'getting' what's appropriate. I do think it's a minority (no less uncomfortable for the performer) who are just missing those basic social cues/knowledge of what's appropriate. Personally I'm shy and awkward as hell so the likelihood of me approaching a performer 'in the wild' is limited. But in theory, if I was say in a coffee shop waiting for a drink and CHF was ahead of me/also waiting I wouldn't see anything wrong with a quick 'hey you're Carrie? I really like your books/you in x show' etc etc because that's also a situation where people make 'small talk' too. Similarly on a train platform I think it's fine to say a passing 'loved the show' and putting myself in performers shoes that seems like a nice and non threatening interaction to me. I was originally an autograph collector who used to stage door just to get things signed going back to mid to late 1990's then I started going to shows and gradually became a theatre fanatic. So I've met a lot of well known people over the years and very few times have been in awe so I always find it slightly amusing when I see people who are totally star struck. The Govt Dept I work for have had some very well known people in to be interviewed about certain matters and I've seen people saying to me "Are you going to ask for an autograph" and I'm like "No way, not in a work environment" I know where the boundaries are.
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Post by cheesy116 on Jan 15, 2019 13:45:41 GMT
She's been saying in her recent videos/tweets that her year is looking very full and she's very happy about how it's looking. I know she's writing another book, do we think she's booked another show already ?
I remember seeing someone saying in the Joseph thread that she would be good as The Narrator... Does anyone have any other ideas/wishes for what it could be ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 18:17:29 GMT
Anyone seen Carries instagram stories today? Is the world of stage door and fan girls getting out of hand. Soon enough when actors take jobs they will need to be briefed on how to handle stage door. Scary stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 18:22:44 GMT
Anyone seen Carries instagram stories today? Is the world of stage door and fan girls getting out of hand. Soon enough when actors take jobs they will need to be briefed on how to handle stage door. Scary stuff. I saw it and it actually kinda shocked me that its got to a point where she has to talk to lawyers and agents about what these fans are doing, its terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 19:59:56 GMT
Goodness, those Instagram stories were intense.
I'm also on the MTAS Facebook group, and there was a post related to it on there regarding stage door respect and artists' privacy.
I feel like Carrie's fans especially lack this self-awareness. They seem deluded that they aren't doing anything wrong, when in fact they are. This stalking/address leaking incident has proven that it's going way too far.
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Post by LaLuPone on Jan 23, 2019 20:06:13 GMT
It makes me upset to see how anxious and upset she is so I can’t even imagine how she must be feeling!
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Post by eliza on Jan 23, 2019 20:09:12 GMT
I'm not sure this was fans, there were people on a gossip site discussing how to find the house she just bought on property websites. Very scary!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 20:11:42 GMT
I'm not sure this was fans, there were people on a gossip site discussing how to find the house she just bought on property websites. Very scary!! GuruGossiper I'm guessing? That site is incredibly toxic and is nothing but negativity and bullying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 20:12:27 GMT
Urgh, its just so f***ed up she should have to deal with this kind of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 21:14:35 GMT
These fans are disgusting.
BUT, she has been uploading dozens of insta stories about the house and stuff (pics, videos...). I'm not saying she had it coming, but you have to be careful when you share SO much about your private life on social media, especially when you are well-known.
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Post by eliza on Jan 23, 2019 21:26:13 GMT
I'm not sure this was fans, there were people on a gossip site discussing how to find the house she just bought on property websites. Very scary!! GuruGossiper I'm guessing? That site is incredibly toxic and is nothing but negativity and bullying. Yeah, they get quite scary, tracking down someone's address is a really extreme step to go to. They might not like her but she's fairly inoffensive, I don't get why you'd go to those lengths.
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Post by tom on Jan 23, 2019 23:02:32 GMT
You reap what you sow... Obviously I am not condoning stalkers but you can’t manipulate unhinged people one second and then expect them to be rational the next.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 0:50:15 GMT
If people are posting her home address or following her home then it is wrong. I know that a number of big name star's addresses may be available online or generally known. But these are big names who live on large private estates or have security and don't attract the sort of fans that Carrie does.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 9:33:46 GMT
I don't think Carrie was sharing a great deal of/about her house. In fact even before this she was being very careful/particular about what she did share. Besides which even mid-level stage 'stars' who use instagram a bit share images inside their house it's not unusual, and regardless none of it should lead to actual stalking.
I think it IS worth pointing out/remembering this was on the GuruGossip website, which is a toxic offshoot of youtube fandom, and therefore I'd be fairly confident saying it wasn't any of Carrie's 'theatre fans' or indeed fans at all doing this. More accurately some nasty internet dwellers who for some reason get off on this.
Deeply unpleasant and good for her for taking a stand on it/speaking out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 10:49:52 GMT
Addresses are available via Election Registers etc. but younger fangirls wouldn't really think to do this way. Lots of people moving house might put it on Social Media and show the inside. I looked at CHF's instagram and they were mainly inside shots.
On a lighter note there is a hilarious body confidence video she has put up of her dancing around in her underwear from mid December. There are lots of white wobbly bits but she has said she is happy with her body and not doubt her boyfriend loves her being cuddly so fair play to her.
Her Boyfriend was in a panto close to me over Xmas and I was getting my programme signed afterwards and he remembered me from the Addams Family tour and I said to him this SD is a lot more calm than those were. He said yes fortunately and I said I think we both know the reason why and he laughed and said she'd been to see it but kept a low profile.
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Post by winonaforever on Jan 24, 2019 11:51:26 GMT
I had a look at that Guru Gossip site and I'm pretty certain nobody there was planning to actually do anything with the information (the address hadn't been posted on there or anything) I think they were just pointing out how easy it was to find the house based entirely on what Carrie had posted on social media (mostly her Instagram stories)
I had a look myself, out of pure nosiness, and found it in about three minutes. Naturally, I wouldn't divulge the address to anyone either, I'm a fan of Carrie's (not the kind of fan that would dream of turning up on her doorstep though!!) I know she does have some very odd obsessive fans...
She did give a lot of identifying details away while the house is still up on RightMove for anyone to see though!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 12:08:53 GMT
You saying how easy it is to find it and even posting the name of the website where the house is, is not helping tho. I know usual posters here won't look it up, cause we're not that kind of fans. But you never know who's lurking.
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Post by indis on Jan 24, 2019 17:20:18 GMT
this is just crazy and way out of something i would ever thought possible i heard stories from "Fans" following actors home in germany too but until now there was never a posted adress out in the internet (as far as i am aware)
but lets not call such people "fans" - because this throws a sad shade on the rest of us lets just call these people stalker, idiots or something like that, because thats what they are
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